Ryoma-kun Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Muse will play Muscle Museum and Showbiz in every gig henceforth. All musers can donate £5 each to buy him a new pedal. I wonder what his reaction would be if someone actually did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 It's very possible those incredible notes he hits in the records took multiple takes to get right I disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Now, I'll be careful here, seeing as my last argument was butt-raped by Sippe, but I don't think it's exactly laziness, exactly. If you think about it, it's very possible those incredible notes he hits in the records took multiple takes to get right. It wouldn't have been in the middle of concert either. Naturally, whilst performing, especially at their level of energy, you will tire. I'm wondering if most (if not all) of these offenses are less due to laziness, and more a result of exhaustion. I've already covered this. If he's tired, why would he sustain great B4s straight AFTER the songs? Shouldn't that be enough proof that he's not tired? And the notes I'm talking about have been done live loads of times. And the G4 in Resistance was done for pretty much the whole tour, and I never heard him fail it, not even close. Still he chose to start avoiding it one day and then continued to do so. What is that if not laziness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 False. I was with him when he made it. I even wrote the first post. Oh, I see. Cheating on Dee are you? I should inform him of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Oh, I see. Cheating on Dee are you? I should inform him of this. Stop being so off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Stop being so off-topic. Don't report me to L., please :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Here /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Oh and, Muse aren't exactly the most energetic band these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I've already covered this. If he's tired, why would he sustain great B4s straight AFTER the songs? Shouldn't that be enough proof that he's not tired? And the notes I'm talking about have been done live loads of times. And the G4 in Resistance was done for pretty much the whole tour, and I never heard him fail it, not even close. Still he chose to start avoiding it one day and then continued to do so. What is that if not laziness *butt rape looming* well, here's a video of Resistance from the show I went to: I assume by wussing out you mean the "Resiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistaaaaance" at the end, which he does not do on this video? Well, this show was 2010 December 9th, nearing the end of the show. Maybe he just slacks off on the bigger performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 If he's tired, why would he sustain great B4s straight AFTER the songs? Shouldn't that be enough proof that he's not tired? And the notes I'm talking about have been done live loads of times. And the G4 in Resistance was done for pretty much the whole tour, and I never heard him fail it, not even close. Still he chose to start avoiding it one day and then continued to do so. What is that if not laziness Their sets are never very long either. Some bands go on for fucking ever. Rush plays so long they do an intermission! Bruce Springstein was known for doing three hour shows. Aerosmith - with that old fart Steve Tyler do nice fat sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 *butt rape looming* well, here's a video of Resistance from the show I went to: I assume by wussing out you mean the "Resiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistaaaaance" at the end, which he does not do on this video? Well, this show was 2010 December 9th, nearing the end of the show. Maybe he just slacks off on the bigger performances Not sure what you're trying to prove by linking that. Whatever it is, you just proved what I just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Their sets are never very long either. Some bands go on for fucking ever. Rush plays so long they do an intermission! Bruce Springstein was known for doing three hour shows. Aerosmith - with that old fart Steve Tyler do nice fat sets. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahoopuk Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 *butt rape looming* well, here's a video of Resistance from the show I went to: I assume by wussing out you mean the "Resiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistaaaaance" at the end, which he does not do on this video? Well, this show was 2010 December 9th, nearing the end of the show. Maybe he just slacks off on the bigger performances Either that or shows towards the end of touring....I must admit a small part of my soul dies when he pussies out of the last chorus of RBS but I'd rather that than a gig I've got tickets to gets cancelled because he gets a screwed up throat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Another example of Matt's (and full band's) lazyness is the usual setlist shit that everyone (rightly) complains about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Not sure what you're trying to prove by linking that. Whatever it is, you just proved what I just said. Well, clearly that was a huge fail... Please be gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Oh and, Muse aren't exactly the most energetic band these days... I beginning to wonder if it's boredom and apathy related. Nothing left to prove, you know? I seriously hope the next record has some major ass ripping mosh songs so the band can wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I beginning to wonder if it's boredom and apathy related. Nothing left to prove, you know? I seriously hope the next record has some major ass ripping mosh songs so the band can wake up. ^^ The Resistance was too much of a softy. Less massive towers and theatrics, more actual goddam performing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I beginning to wonder if it's boredom and apathy related. Nothing left to prove, you know? I seriously hope the next record has some major ass ripping mosh songs so the band can wake up. Getting older is definitely some aspect, either they can't be jumping around all the time or they'd look foolish doing it. And the rest is probably just boredom or laziness. I'm not sure which one is more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Getting older is definitely some aspect, either they can't be jumping around all the time or they'd look foolish doing it. And the rest is probably just boredom or laziness. I'm not sure which one is more though. As long as it looks as if they are enjoying themselves, the "leaping around" really doesn't matter. And even when musicians are older, the adrenaline of performing makes it look a lot less silly than you think. I've seen the Who, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Rush, Cheap Trick, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath (reunion), all long after these band's prime. They were great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Where's everyone go? I hope I'm not a "threadkiller"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Where's everyone go? I hope I'm not a "threadkiller"! Probably just all out right now. I'm not good at starting topics so I'm just waiting for someone to spark more discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 *butt rape looming* well, here's a video of Resistance from the show I went to: I assume by wussing out you mean the "Resiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistaaaaance" at the end, which he does not do on this video? Well, this show was 2010 December 9th, nearing the end of the show. Maybe he just slacks off on the bigger performances Hey, I was there too! I'm fairly certain Matt saw me in the crowd and held onto the note, knowing I'd be disappointed. But really, that night was one of his better vocal nights, luckily for me. Some nights he comes in super tense, and you can tell he is going to skip that note. Plus that was very early in the set which makes it a bit easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hey, I was there too! I'm fairly certain Matt saw me in the crowd and held onto the note, knowing I'd be disappointed. But really, that night was one of his better vocal nights, luckily for me. Some nights he comes in super tense, and you can tell he is going to skip that note. Plus that was very early in the set which makes it a bit easier. haha, awesome! Great night I guess I haven't heard all this supposed half-arsery because I don't go out of my way to watch live recorded performances anymore, other than on those handy little DVD's they've neglected to produce this time around. Most of my basis for performance quality this tour is made from that night, which, if memory serves, was very vocally strong. Well, here's hoping that their next tour will step it up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova14 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Getting older is definitely some aspect, either they can't be jumping around all the time or they'd look foolish doing it. And the rest is probably just boredom or laziness. I'm not sure which one is more though. He still jumps around in Plug In Baby though, but even then it seems to have lessened. Dom's the most fit one in the band then, but obviously can't move around during the gig. Nils Lofgen used to do backflips, now he's too old for that. It's kinda how it is. But one thing that age doesn't really restrict is the ability to perform better, not just have good, amusing theatrics. I guess singing goes with age, I'm not sure because I'm not a singer, I'm just assuming that. One thing they can do for sure is to increase the length of setlists and vary them more often, a lot more often. While we're on the question, do you guys already think Muse is out of their prime? Like was their 'prime' Absolution era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I think their prime was the Absolution Tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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