JadeLovesMuse Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Guitar Hero shut down. Is rock really dying? Can Muse save rock? With Guitar Hero shutting down production and announcing the layoffs of 500 employees at its Santa Monica offices, it begs the question, is rock really a dying art form? Muse’s guitar virtuoso lead singer, Matt Bellamy was truly proud of his Guitar Hero avatar. The band filled Staples Center in Los Angeles for two nights before continuing on to fill The Pond in Anaheim. Under the banner of rock U2 drew record crowds on their 2010 360 Tour. Bruce Springsteen is considered to be a living legend. Van Halen still fills large staduims. Coachella draws tens of thousands of rock fans out to the desert each year, where rumor has it, Muse stole the show. The Beatles catalog was released on iTunes and has sold incredibly well, most likely bolstered by The Beatles: Rock Band. According to Billboard Magazine, Aerosmith’s catalog saw a 40% leap in sales when Guitar Hero: Aerosmith was released this year. However, even years ago in 1980s, the Beastie Boys languished on the sidelines when they formed a punk/metal band. When they started rapping, they scored major hits. Rapper B.o.B. plays guitar and keyboards, and sings bridges and choruses himself, but seems to score hit due to those rap sections. Or is he actually just organically incorporating live rock into hip hop rather than sampling as in "Don't Let Me Fall"? Having reviewed him live at the Pac Sun Beach Ballyhoo, it was surprizing just how much singing and guitar work he did with his full live band. The indie rock band, Menomena incorporates hip hop rhythms via their amazingly talented drummer, Danny Seim, though they do not rap. Meanwhile indie alt rockers The XX lay down hefty beats to undergird delicately sparse guitars and keyboards. Muse’s song, “Undisclosed Desires” incorporated some hip-hop elements and soulful singing. Is it possible that the definition of rock has broadened to include whatever beat patterns one would like. Hip hop artists have sampled great guitar riffs on a regular basis going way back to the 1980s. The Black Eyed Peas scored one of their biggest hits by sampling the guitar riff from Miserlou for “Pump It” and often incorporate singing. The dubious art form of rap rock and rap metal sprang from Aerosmith performing “Walk This Way” with Run DMC. Rap and hip hop have rarely been pure music forms. Music forms have forever shifted and changed with time. As the music industry changes, more and more bands shift to independent and DIY production. But major labels still own most of the airwaves and push hip hop, r & b, pop, and dance. They deal in hits. Yet what happens on independent labels has changed the rules of the game in unpredictable ways in prior decades. The game isn't over yet, rock isn't out of the game. Rock certainly looks to be quite alive in Muse's video for their Grammy nominated rock song, The Resistance. The crowd at the Glastonbury 2010 sang along so loudly to both the riff and chorus that Muse appear to be the saviors for the genre with "Plug In Baby." It's unbelieveable it took years for them to be signed by a major label. There's another unanswered question. What's to become of Bellamy's Guitar Hero avatar? http://www.examiner.com/rock-music-in-los-angeles/guitar-hero-shut-down-is-rock-really-dying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Total nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Chizzlebrox Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Guitar Hero was never rock in the first place. It's just a game, something else will no doubt come along and take everyone's attention away. Also rock's been pretty dead in the water for a long time, at least the sort of rock this article is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melania13 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 She just likes mentioning Muse because it gets a lot of hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Ah, it was written by Diana Diaz, Muse fangirl. That explains all the Muse references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 She just likes mentioning Muse because it gets a lot of hits. No, she's a proper fan. She's posted on the board in the past (can't remember which thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 No, she's a proper fan. She's posted on the board in the past (can't remember which thread). (proper fan who doesn't know the name of the song they are nominated with) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 (proper fan who doesn't know the name of the song they are nominated with) It's an error, but it's a small(ish) one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 A lot of that article didn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melania13 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 No, she's a proper fan. She's posted on the board in the past (can't remember which thread). I know I remember her. And knowing Muse fans, she knows her article will get a lot of views if it pops up when we search Muse in News. Smart on her part is what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I know I remember her. And knowing Muse fans, she knows her article will get a lot of views if it pops up when we search Muse in News. Smart on her part is what I mean Oh ok. I misunderstood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrMan Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 With no more Guitar Hero, hopefully we'll get more Muse in Rock Band, or even a Muse: Rock Band (please ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohopeinfear Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 With no more Guitar Hero, hopefully we'll get more Muse in Rock Band, or even a Muse: Rock Band (please ) Rock Band is also cancelled apparently. True Crime aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saracene Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 What a rambling article I don't see what death of rock has to do with the death of a video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFan9876 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Rock Band is also cancelled apparently. True Crime aswell. Where was that announced? Guitar hero being canceled was big news, but I heard nothing of Rock Band. Harmonix is doing way too well to randomly cancel. I figured Guitar Hero canceled because of Rock Band overshadowing it. *Drools over Muse: Rock Band* JrMan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Not only is the "Is rock dying?" total nonsense, but what the hell does hip-hop have to do with it? "Muse’s song, “Undisclosed Desires” incorporated some hip-hop elements and soulful singing. Is it possible that the definition of rock has broadened to include whatever beat patterns one would like. Hip hop artists have sampled great guitar riffs on a regular basis going way back to the 1980s. The Black Eyed Peas scored one of their biggest hits by sampling the guitar riff from Miserlou for “Pump It” and often incorporate singing. The dubious art form of rap rock and rap metal sprang from Aerosmith performing “Walk This Way” with Run DMC. Rap and hip hop have rarely been pure music forms. Music forms have forever shifted and changed with time. As the music industry changes, more and more bands shift to independent and DIY production. But major labels still own most of the airwaves and push hip hop, r & b, pop, and dance. They deal in hits. Yet what happens on independent labels has changed the rules of the game in unpredictable ways in prior decades. The game isn't over yet, rock isn't out of the game." So much random nonsense, I can't handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 not read any of this thread, just the title. my reply, to can muse save rock [not sure what that has to do with gh]. rock doesn't need saving, rock his it's mainstream periods, which is when rock turns into shit, rock isn't that mainstream now, indie is the closest thing to rock, currently mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerman Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Its just Activision laying off people so it can make more CALL OF DUDY (caps lock intentional) studios/games, Guitar Hero hasn't done well recently (thanks to many spin-offs that could replace the Wall of China) and Bobby luves his moneh so I'm not surprised this happend. The writer obviously didn't catch that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohopeinfear Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Where was that announced? Guitar hero being canceled was big news, but I heard nothing of Rock Band. Harmonix is doing way too well to randomly cancel. I figured Guitar Hero canceled because of Rock Band overshadowing it. *Drools over Muse: Rock Band* JrMan. I read it on IGN, but now they've changed it to "re-assessing" and the teams behind games like Rock Band and DJ Hero have been hit by many layoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Of Symmetry Ftw Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Load of crap there are rock bands that change the world all the time just as much know as the i promise that 20 years form now people will be complaing how crap modern music is crap and how could bands like Muse are and how they wish they could have been born then. Another example that rock is not dying Rage against the machine got christmas number 1in 2009, although not my favourite band it just shows that rock will never die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrMan Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I read it on IGN, but now they've changed it to "re-assessing" and the teams behind games like Rock Band and DJ Hero have been hit by many layoffs. Although its true they were hit with layoffs, Rock Band is not owned by Activision, so this announcement has nothing do to with Rock Band's future, unfortunably it doesn't look very bright either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racket Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Although its true they were hit with layoffs, Rock Band is not owned by Activision, so this announcement has nothing do to with Rock Band's future, unfortunably it doesn't look very bright either. May not look a bright future atm but hopefully with the end of Guitar Hero and the current state of Harmonix, it'll lead to even more innovation with Rock Band. Least it might give the music game genre a cooling off period that Rock Band can use to it's advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss_Saturday Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Rock DOES seem to be dying.. BUT with muses latest stuff.. it can hardly be described as that genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinity3music Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 (proper fan who doesn't know the name of the song they are nominated with) The wesistance. I am a fucking pwoper Muse fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinity3music Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Rock Band and Guitar Hero both have roots with a company called Harmonix, but Activision is Guitar Hero. Did someone post my article on the fucking Radiohead forum? All these Radiohad fans came by and posted stupid shit in the comments. I don't care what Metacritic says about Radiohead being up there with the Beatles, I love Muse. The whole point of mentioning all that hip hop stuff was to say that hip hop uses rock to score hits, and rock sometimes incorporates hip hop elements, so rock isn't really dead. Indie rock is still rock. Muse was indie rock when they started. I wish I had been there at Glastonbury--that was a fucking pwoper crowd singing along with the riff and the chorus. Stepping off soapbox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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