the_man361 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Ok, where did you get the information from, then? Identify correctly every drum, cymbal and piece of hardware (or get your "source" to) in this image and I'll believe you (bonus points if you have enough general knowledge to identify the drummer and list a brand the drumstick definitely isn't). The only way you know what cymbals, and hardware, and heads, and pedals, and snares, and special custom drum sizes Dom uses is because I told you. EDIT: And another thing, fuck you. Sitting there smugly taking credit for my information and then having the unmitigated temerity to say that I'm not the only one who could possibly have worked it out? Who else could have, you? Just where does every piece of Muse drum data originate, then? he said get off your high horse, not onto it k&t is spiralling into a cival war or something haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 You know it works better if you don't give away the information (which you could only have memorized since some of it can't be ascertained from the image) and undermine my point. I wasn't asking you, I wasn't speaking to you, I know you know about TMV. If it were you I'd get someone like Alex Acuna. By the looks of the lugs, tom holder, and finish, thats a Ludwig set. Lol, don't fuck about with "by the looks of" nonsense you knew that already. Question though, how does a mirror chrome finish identify this kit as a Ludwig (with the pretense of no prior knowledge)? And you got the sticks wrong, didn't do the hardware, didn't state what kind of Ludwig set it is, when it was manufactured and what model cymbals. he said get off your high horse, not onto hahaha I get it, the humour comes from the fact that you can't recognize the difference between ego and the simlpe desire to be given credit for one's achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdrummer Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 You know it works better if you don't give away the information (which you could only have memorized since some of it can't be ascertained from the image) and undermine my point. I wasn't asking you, I wasn't speaking to you, I know you know about TMV. If it were you I'd get someone like Alex Acuna. Lol, don't fuck about with "by the looks of" nonsense you knew that already. Question though, how does a mirror chrome finish identify this kit as a Ludwig (with the pretense of no prior knowledge)? And you got the sticks wrong, didn't do the hardware, didn't state what kind of Ludwig set it is, when it was manufactured and what model cymbals. hahaha I get it, the humour comes from the fact that you can't recognize the difference between ego and the simlpe desire to be given credit for one's achievements. True, the cymbals, heads, and sticks can't be determined by that picture (BTW, sticks were right, they are just extreme 5B). However, there are pictures from different angles that show what heads, cymbals, and sticks he uses; point being that there is more than one source to find out about something. Also, I can tell "by the looks" that that is a Ludwig set. I don't know what model, but I'm sure its a Ludwig. Ludwig is the most common retailer of that finish (mirrored silver), has more square looking lugs, and a distinctive tom holder. I wasn't trying to undermine anyone, I was prooving a point - we shouldn't be arguing over such petty things in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 BTW, sticks were right, they are just extreme 5B Yes, so saying "5B" would be incorrect then. Also, I can tell "by the looks" that that is a Ludwig set. I know it's possible, you didn't do that though, you knew it was already. I don't know what model, but I'm sure its a Ludwig. Ludwig is the most common retailer of that finish (mirrored silver), has more square looking lugs, and a distinctive tom holder. BS. Ludwig don't even make a mass produced mirror finish set. They don't make any wood drums with a mirror finish. Here's how you can tell it's a Ludwig: it has Ludwig lugs and a Ludwig mount. End of story. The finish tells you nothing. In actuality it's not even a finish, it's the stainless steel shells. True, the cymbals, heads, and sticks can't be determined by that picture Cymbals *can* and it can be told that the sticks aren't Pro-Mark. I wasn't trying to undermine anyone, I was prooving a point - we shouldn't be arguing over such petty things in this thread. Kindly don't presume to inform us of what we should and should not argue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 Ok, where did you get the information from, then? Err...the same way YOU did. Watching videos, reading interviews, looking at websites. The zildjian one tells me exactly what cymbals he uses..... Or did they get that information off you as well? I'd kick up an argument if I were you! Identify correctly every drum, cymbal and piece of hardware (or get your "source" to) in this image and I'll believe you (bonus points if you have enough general knowledge to identify the drummer and list a brand the drumstick definitely isn't). Lame. The only way you know what cymbals, and hardware, and heads, and pedals, and snares, and special custom drum sizes Dom uses is because I told you. Think what you want. *pats* EDIT: And another thing, fuck you. Sitting there smugly taking credit for my information and then having the unmitigated temerity to say that I'm not the only one who could possibly have worked it out? Who else could have, you? Just where does every piece of Muse drum data originate, then? No. Fuck you thinking you are some almighty drum god. I cannot actually believe you started an argument over this. Pathetic! I am a big fan of Dom's and a drummer myself and so therefore i take particular interest over his kit in much the same way you do. His drums have Tama written on them. Visist tama website. Find out what his drums are. Easy. His cymbals have Zildjian written on them. Visit zildjian website. Find out what cymbals he has. Easy. The only thing ill give you credit for is the A splash. Well done you! Only YOU could have worked that one out! Ive had my say, you've had yours. Lets move on now shall we.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addyjoe Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I'm sure Dom would love to see you two bitching about his kit. He must really feel he's made it big time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 His drums have Tama written on them. Visist tama website. Find out what his drums are. Easy. Give me the URL with the specs of the Mirage kit and snares. His cymbals have Zildjian written on them. Visit zildjian website. Find out what cymbals he has. Easy. Give me the URL of the page that says he uses the KC and AC medium rides, KC fast and K dark crashes (and the A splash). The only thing ill give you credit for is the A splash. Well done you! Only YOU could have worked that one out! Damn fucking right only I could have, in fact let me highlight all the stuff that only I could have known: DRUMS Tama Crystal Ice (clear) Starclassic Mirage kit with custom white powdercoated hardware: Matching Snare = 14x6 or Tama Power Metal Brass Snare =14x6.5 Hi-Tom = 12x8 Mid-Tom = 14x12 Low-Tom = 16x14 Gong bass = 20x14 Bass = 24x18 CYMBALS 14" K Custom Special Dry Hats 18" K Custom Fast Crash or 18" A Custom Crash or 18" A Custom EFX *this only partially cos anyone can see it's an EFX 19" K Dark Crash or 19" A Custom Crash *these because of the change back to ACs from the K and KCs 22" K Custom Medium Ride or 22" A Custom Medium Ride 18" FX Oriental China "Trash" 11" FX Oriental "Trash" Splash 8" Avedis Splash OTHER PERCUSSION DrumTech Rhythm Crasher Handheld Shaker TRIGGERS Roland RT-10S Snare Drum Trigger Roland RT-10T Tom Tom Trigger HARDWARE Tama Iron Cobra SINGLE bass drum pedal - chrome Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat pedal Tama First drum stool with backrest 18" Industrial Floor Fan Stick Bag And, yes, it is the most comprehensive list on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicHoward Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 fight fight fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Nah, it's my fault, I went overboard with the hyperbole on my first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 Hullaballoo: Tama Maple Start Classic 12"x12" 14"x14" 16"x16" ( Do I have the bass drum and snare sizes, I will dig them out) 8" EFX 11" Oriental Splash 13" Mastersound Hi-Hats 18" A Custom Crash 19" A Custom Crash 18" Oriental China Trash 20" Dark K Custom Ride. IC double, Aquarian heads Although his drum setup may not have changed much since hullabaloo, his cymbal setup certainly has! He now uses K Dark Crashes instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo) He uses K Hi-Hats instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo) He has an extra crash, it's oriental, that's all I know. It's a 22" K Custom ride he uses, not a 20". And yes, it's a Rhythmtech Crasher that he uses in both Megalomania (Hullabaloo) and live and recorded versions of TIRO. And you call yourselves Dom fans... PRESENT EQUIPMENT- Tama Starclassic Maple Kit: (widthxdepth") 22x16" Bass Drum 12x10" Tom 14x14" Floor Tom 16x16" Floor Tom Snare Drums: (widthxdepth") 14x6.5" Ludwig Supraphonic 14x5.5" Tama Starclassic Maple Tama Hardware: Tama Roadpro Stands Tama Iron Cobra Powerglide Bass Drum Pedal Tama Iron Cobra Veloglide Hi-Hat Stand Zildjian cymbals: (diameter",) from right to left: 11" Oriental Trash Splash 13" K Mastersound Hi-Hats 8" EFX (now discontinued) 20" Oriental Crash of Doom 18" K Medium-Thin Dark Crash 22" K Custom Ride 19" K Medium-Thin Dark Crash 18" Oriental Classic China Heads: Live- Tom Batter: Remo Clear Ambassador Tom Resonant: Remo Clear Diplomat Snare Batter: Coated Ambassador Snare Reso: Remo SnareSide Ambassador Bass Batter: Remo Powerstroke III Bass Reso: Tama Stock Recording- Tom Batter: Remo Coated Ambassador Tom Resonant: Remo Clear Diplomat Snare Batter: Remo Controlled Sound (w/ grey dot) Snare Reso: Remo SnareSide Ambassador Bass Batter: Remo Clear Powerstroke III Bass Reso: Tama Stock Sticks: Zildjian Dennis Chambers Signature Drums Maple Starclisic in Chrome with Black h/w 12x9 tom 14x14 floor 16x16 floor 22x18 bass Snare maple Maple starclasic 14x 6 1/2 (last tour ludwig blask Beauty 14x6 1/2 Cymbals Live Crash of Doom A custom cymbals sizes differ for shoes, normaly 17/19 or 18/19 11" trash splash 8" A splash 14 K hats 22K ride 18" China Trash heads toms Remo Emp's top ambasadors bottom Snare CS batter on starclassin Aquarain HE on BB PS3 on kick that will do for now.. you cant really list stuff fdor the studio as things change from song to song PS i know the above as i have seen the kit in person all of these before we knew you even existed. all done in the same way - looking and identifying. you cant take credit for something which is widely available for everyone to see and work out themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lick My Face Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Does the ability to identify Drums actually make you a better drummer though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 Does the ability to identify Drums actually make you a better drummer though? exactly! it means nothing! i dunno why this has turned into a big deal. can we move on now please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Does the ability to identify Drums actually make you a better drummer though? Did someone say it did? I ask... what's the point of posting these lists? None refer to the present tour gear and most are so vastly wrong the mind boggles. If you actually read the posts instead of just looking for sound bites that help you, you'd have seen everyone correcting them. Furthermore none of them actually have the things in them that I underlined. I cannot imagine what you hope to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Chill out man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 whatever. moving on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lick My Face Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Did someone say it did? No, but it could have easily been implied that it would make you better judging by just how into this you're actually getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Nah, it's my fault, I went overboard with the hyperbole on my first post. Right, that sounds like the end of it ! Niles: What kindof kit should I be looking for in the ~£350 range (secondhand)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stakka Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Yeah..move on...change to a new subject methinks....I am out in the states at the moment and have just arranged to have an Iron Cobra HP900P Powerglide single base pedal shipped over back home to the UK for the equivalent of £67 (thanks to the lovely exchange rate!) OK the freight is free as my company are sending it over but have I picked up a good piece of kit for a good price? I currently use a shitty piece of crap that came with the kit so anything will be an improvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 Yeah..move on...change to a new subject methinks....I am out in the states at the moment and have just arranged to have an Iron Cobra HP900P Powerglide single base pedal shipped over back home to the UK for the equivalent of £67 (thanks to the lovely exchange rate!) OK the freight is free as my company are sending it over but have I picked up a good piece of kit for a good price? I currently use a shitty piece of crap that came with the kit so anything will be an improvement £67! lucky git! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Did you mean to get a double kick but thought the single was half price? Easy mistake to make. I'd spend the money and get a double kick though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stakka Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Did you mean to get a double kick but thought the single was half price? Easy mistake to make. I'd spend the money and get a double kick though. No I did just want a single kick and the cheapest I could see in the uk was around £120. Appreciate the suggestion about going for the double but personally I want to stick with single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Yeah..move on...change to a new subject methinks....I am out in the states at the moment and have just arranged to have an Iron Cobra HP900P Powerglide single base pedal shipped over back home to the UK for the equivalent of £67 (thanks to the lovely exchange rate!) OK the freight is free as my company are sending it over but have I picked up a good piece of kit for a good price? I currently use a shitty piece of crap that came with the kit so anything will be an improvement An IC is a top-of-the-line pehdaal, with free shipping you've picked up an awesome bit of kit at a price unheard of to anyone not in the US. I bought my Elim for $50 brand new over eBay. I was thinking of getting rid of the Eliminator in favour of an Axis because even it felt to heavy to be doind all the twitch strokes in what I play. I think that the IC is a heavy pedal with a light stock beater and the Elim is a light pedal with a very heavy stock beater, so I've changed the Pearl Quad beater with the el cheapo felt cylinder one that came with my first pedal, superb. Appreciate the suggestion about going for the double but personally I want to stick with single. A cracking decision! It'll twist everyones minds better when you can play doubles and operate your hat at the same time. Right, that sounds like the end of it ! Niles: What kindof kit should I be looking for in the ~£350 range (secondhand)? I would have thought it was, too. For the record I feel like a right twat starting such an argument. 350 pound is about US$680, I'd suggest eBay because you'll get more for your money second hand. You could get a Ludwig Accent CS Elite for that, I think (I don't know how the market is in the UK), or a Gretsch Catalina Maple, or perhaps even a Mapex M-Birch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 350 pound is about US$680, I'd suggest eBay because you'll get more for your money second hand. You could get a Ludwig Accent CS Elite for that, I think (I don't know how the market is in the UK), or a Gretsch Catalina Maple, or perhaps even a Mapex M-Birch. Cheers, gives me a good place to start - Looks like I can get the Ludwig new for that much but I should probablylgo and try a few out somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 No I did just want a single kick and the cheapest I could see in the uk was around £120. Appreciate the suggestion about going for the double but personally I want to stick with single. good call A cracking decision! It'll twist everyones minds better when you can play doubles and operate your hat at the same time. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Why are there so many drummers on this board who don't like double kicks? Do you visit drummer world? All of the amazing drummers I watch use double kick, and manage to operate hats perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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