haze015 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I never said that that was the case though? This is why I mentioned about the different perceptions of what defines mainstream, obviously we have different views on what it is. To me the mainstream is what you consistently see high up in the charts, what consistently gets played on "mainstream" radio stations and tv channels, i.e. what the majority of people listen to. I've said that already. Radiohead just don't fall into that bracket in my view, can you imagine present/TKoL Radiohead getting consistently played in that way, and charting high? Lotus Flower had a fair bit of recognition at first but it peaked at 165 in the UK chart, how can that be considered mainstream? I guess what you're saying is that if a band is known throughout the world, or a household name, then they're automatically mainstream? That's just not how I see it.. might possibly (and seemingly so, seeing as no one's agreed with me... ) make fuck all sense but just my opinion, as always Right, never saying mainstream again. Lotus Flower is hardly representative of Radiohead's career as a whole and they were very a "mainstream" band in the 90's, chart success, huge media attention, radio & TV airplay and all the rest of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Radiohead are overrated. Nah, a lot of their back catalogue is incredible, like, insane, and live they are absolutely incredible still. TKoL wasn't the best and I think a bit of hype surrounding them went down after that, but I think they're...on-rated? What's inbetween under and over? Normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Lotus Flower is hardly representative of Radiohead's career as a whole and they were very a "mainstream" band in the 90's, chart success, huge media attention, radio & TV airplay and all the rest of it. ... "Of course, when Creep exploded they were for a fair while". I was only really talking about present Radiohead back to perhaps In Rainbows/HTTT. They've had such polar opposite stages in their career that it's hard to sum their whole career up in general other than "good band, critically acclaimed, well known" Was never contesting that they were or weren't mainstream in the 90s, they definitely were. But that was in the 90s.. I mean, 90s Radiohead compared to present Radiohead could sound like two totally different bands to someone that had never heard them before, no? Nah, a lot of their back catalogue is incredible, like, insane, and live they are absolutely incredible still. TKoL wasn't the best and I think a bit of hype surrounding them went down after that, but I think they're...on-rated? What's inbetween under and over? Normal? Yeeeeep. And if the new stuff they played on the last tour is anything to go by, their 9th album could be bloody fantastic. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I mean, 90s Radiohead compared to present Radiohead could sound like two totally different bands to someone that had never heard them before, no? What has that got to do with anything? If Radiohead announced a tour tomorrow, it'll be an arena tour and/or some form of huge venue and it will sell out in seconds, there's no way a band that wasn't "mainstream" could pull that off. In Rainbows still topped the charts and KoL got into the top 10. And considering Yorke's views on Spotify, he is still very much caught up in the mainstream business model, not DIY or Indie as he likes to portray himself as. Radiohead's last gigs at the O2 were around £70 a ticket as well, certainly not a price an underground band can charge (Nor should anyone be charging that to be honest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Haze is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Maybe people are just getting mixed up with credibility or sutin? Like Biffy and Radiohead seem a lot more authentic than Coldplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Maybe people are just getting mixed up with credibility or sutin? Like Biffy and Radiohead seem a lot more authentic than Coldplay? I'm sure a Coldplay fan who dislikes Biffy and/or Radiohead would disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Anyway Biffy and Radiohead are of course mainstream. /late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 A Parva song was played on the radio a couple of months back, considered breaking up the band as we've clearly got too mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I'm sure a Coldplay fan who dislikes Biffy and/or Radiohead would disagree Mmm probably, but the people here in the discussion are people that do like Biffy and Radiohead so y'know ヽ（´ー｀）┌ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Mmm probably, but the people here in the discussion are people that do like Biffy and Radiohead so y'know ヽ（´ー｀）┌ Yeah but authenticity still isn't an objective thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Also "the production in The Captain made it mainstream" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Yeah but authenticity still isn't an objective thing Okok I may not have made my point as clear as I should have and I quoted this to then explain but I'm already fed up of LIFEF EKNWJXNASLJXZ Also "the production in The Captain made it mainstream" Classic Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Also "the production in The Captain made it mainstream" It wasn't "raw" enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It wasn't "raw" enough Still doesn't make Jamie's original statement any less bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Still doesn't make Jamie's original statement any less bullshit I was implying it was bullshit. I suppose it is kinda hard to tell through text. edit: Thats better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Still doesn't make Jamie's original statement any less bullshit My original statement was that Biffy couldnt and wont play stadiums, at least not in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 IUNO. I clearly have a slightly warped sense of what mainstream is, can hardly argue against Haze's last post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 My original statement was that Biffy couldnt and wont play stadiums, at least not in the near future "Near future" as in "next 2-3 years"? Because in that case you'd be quite wrong imo. Not a tour, but they could make a single night stadium gig (just like The Killers last month. Even if not at Wembley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I was implying it was bullshit. I suppose it is kinda hard to tell through text. edit: Thats better hate that smiley My original statement was that Biffy couldnt and wont play stadiums, at least not in the near future Yeah, and? You still made some other statements. How conversations work enit, start off talking about one thing and they develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Haze is right. can hardly argue against Haze's last post Teh fuck is going on!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Sent from my ePhone using Twatatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Sent from my ePhone using Twatatalk Do you have to write those sigs every time or is there a way of getting them on every post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Do you have to write those sigs every time or is there a way of getting them on every post? Tapatalk automatically puts them on, you can delete and customise them but I prefer signing off my posts with 'Fabri is a nob' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQYeDBn_VXU How about a singalong? There is a house in New Orleans They call the rising sun *mumbling* and god I know I'm one I should give tapatalk another try. Only really use the mobile version of the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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