Jabnit Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 So does the Line 6 Filter do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuz Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 So does the Line 6 Filter do this? maybe, though it'd have to be using the Ooh-Wah setting. seriously, i've said it all along; some sort of stepping filter will get you close enough. Zvex Ooh-Wah, Digitech Hyperphase, Digitech Turboflange all give you that (so does my Prophecysound Infinitphase, but it's pretty unlikely that you'd be able to find one anywhere). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabnit Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 maybe, though it'd have to be using the Ooh-Wah setting. seriously, i've said it all along; some sort of stepping filter will get you close enough. Zvex Ooh-Wah, Digitech Hyperphase, Digitech Turboflange all give you that (so does my Prophecysound Infinitphase, but it's pretty unlikely that you'd be able to find one anywhere). +1 with the recommended pedals! Using a sequencer with a whammy just seems to be more money and hassle to me. Atleast I've heard the Digitech Flanger and it sounds great. Surely if you use that with loads of distortion you wouldn't even here the flange depth so much. I have a phaser and when the depth is low and I use distortion you can only just tell it's a phaser. I think I should go to Birmingham soon and try out some pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjedd Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 So the conclusion is that all you need is a whammy pedal and a midi sequencer is it? can anyone recommend one of each that gives teh best effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 So the conclusion is that all you need is a whammy pedal and a midi sequencer is it? can anyone recommend one of each that gives teh best effect? Seeing as the sound comes through the pedal and not the sequencer it won't make a difference which one you choose. And you'd need a WH4 because of the MIDI in function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Fuzz + filter does that.... The filter emphasises different harmonics in the fuzz tone, which are already massively emphasised by the fuzz. Can't argue with that, but it's not a filter in MOTP. What the hell do some people mean 'any' step effect will get you close enough? So the step delay effect I have will get the sound? What about a step distortion? step ring mod? step compressor? You'd probably get closer just using a Digitech Whammy on the +/-1 harmony and using your foot to get the rhythm than using 'any' step effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabnit Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 You'd probably get closer just using a Digitech Whammy on the +/-1 harmony and using your foot to get the rhythm than using 'any' step effect. True. I can get a decent effect rocking back and forth on my mates whammy pedal but I must be honest and say it gets very tiring and unaccurate after a while But for those of you who have no access to neither a whammy or a sequencer, it does seem a little bit of an expensive buy just to do the intro to a song. This is why I would rather settle with a simple pedal, such as the Digitech Flanger or just fuck it and keep to the whammy. I don't like the idea of attaching another pedal to my board just to do one song in my position tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuz Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 What the hell do some people mean 'any' step effect will get you close enough? So the step delay effect I have will get the sound? What about a step distortion? step ring mod? step compressor? seriously, i've said it all along; some sort of stepping filter will get you close enough. where did anyone say anything about 'any' step effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuz Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 True. I can get a decent effect rocking back and forth on my mates whammy pedal but I must be honest and say it gets very tiring and unaccurate after a while But for those of you who have no access to neither a whammy or a sequencer, it does seem a little bit of an expensive buy just to do the intro to a song. This is why I would rather settle with a simple pedal, such as the Digitech Flanger or just fuck it and keep to the whammy. I don't like the idea of attaching another pedal to my board just to do one song in my position tbh. especially if it's just some band's song, not a song of your own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabnit Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 especially if it's just some band's song, not a song of your own Yeah. I was obsessed with this effect scince I heard the song and looked into it. Now I look back and think, "what a n00b / Matt-wanabe". Not that intrested anymore. I can wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 But for those of you who have no access to neither a whammy or a sequencer, it does seem a little bit of an expensive buy just to do the intro to a song. This is why I would rather settle with a simple pedal, such as the Digitech Flanger or just fuck it and keep to the whammy. I don't like the idea of attaching another pedal to my board just to do one song in my position tbh. Yeah, you can only use a sequencer and a whammy for one song And yeah, you can only use a sequencer when it's hooked up to a whammy Plus the effect in MOTP isn't that important to the song, you can live without it if you wanted to cover it, as the guitar is pretty much in the background throughout the whole song, even the little lead line at the start is played by Chris live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 You don't have to be a Matt wannabe to want to recreate these effects. Surely you must find some interest in reverse engineering/recreating them if only because they can give you ideas for your own hideously original music/endless Muse covers. It's like the sort of people that take an engine apart just to see how it works and then rebuild it for the sake of it, it's to expand your understanding. From the sounds of things we're looking at this from two very different angles: From what you've said you're interested in being able to cover this song/impress friends with it because you're after the sound (hence the "this is close enough without spending money") wheras I'm more interested in the method and the potential with MIDI and sequencers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabnit Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Yeah, you can only use a sequencer and a whammy for one song And yeah, you can only use a sequencer when it's hooked up to a whammy Plus the effect in MOTP isn't that important to the song, you can live without it if you wanted to cover it, as the guitar is pretty much in the background throughout the whole song, even the little lead line at the start is played by Chris live. That wasn't my point. I was just saying that most people/n00bs? only want this effect to do this paticular song or just show off as Raurie just suggested. That was me tbh but now I don't give a shit. I know you can do more with a sequencer and that your able to use them with more than just a whammy pedal but some people just want a sequencer and whammy to get that paticular effect and then they probably wont have a clue what else to achieve with the sequencer (this is why I don't care anymore, lol). Where as some people like maybe yourself and Raurie want to experiment with the effect. You don't have to be a Matt wannabe to want to recreate these effects. Surely you must find some interest in reverse engineering/recreating them if only because they can give you ideas for your own hideously original music/endless Muse covers. True. It goes the smae for a lot of other effects that Matt uses really. Like when some people wonder how Matt acheives the PIB intro then they get a FF and expect to sound like Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 That wasn't my point. I was just saying that most people/n00bs? only want this effect to do this paticular song or just show off as Raurie just suggested. That was me tbh but now I don't give a shit. I know you can do more with a sequencer and that your able to use them with more than just a whammy pedal but some people just want a sequencer and whammy to get that paticular effect and then they probably wont have a clue what else to achieve with the sequencer (this is why I don't care anymore, lol). Where as some people like maybe yourself and Raurie want to experiment with the effect. You mean there another reason to use lots of weird effects other than to show off? What I don't like is when people give out misleading information, in this case saying that a step flanger, phase or filter will get the sound, when it is clearly pitchshifting, purely on the basis it sounds 'similar', which is a bit like telling someone to get an overdrive when they want to get the early Nirvana Big Muff sound, yes, what they do is similar, but they don't sound the same. I don't think it's got anything to do with me wanting to experiment with that effect (even though I do, check the new song in the link in my sig ), it's more to do with wanting people to know how to get the sound, rather than the cheapest way that sounds 'similar'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funguy Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 You don't have to be a Matt wannabe to want to recreate these effects. Surely you must find some interest in reverse engineering/recreating them if only because they can give you ideas for your own hideously original music/endless Muse covers. It's like the sort of people that take an engine apart just to see how it works and then rebuild it for the sake of it, it's to expand your understanding. From the sounds of things we're looking at this from two very different angles: From what you've said you're interested in being able to cover this song/impress friends with it because you're after the sound (hence the "this is close enough without spending money") wheras I'm more interested in the method and the potential with MIDI and sequencers etc. I'm I think I'm looking at it the same as you. the whole looking at what potential there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funguy Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 listen to the video on the Zvex ite, I think the seek wah sounds much more like it than the seek trem i agree with you on that. what's this line 6 that's got the seek wah patch on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabnit Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 i agree with you on that. what's this line 6 that's got the seek wah patch on it? Line 6 FM-4 Filter Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funguy Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Line 6 FM-4 Filter Modeler you konw any info on the FM4 the line 6 doesn't seem to give much away on that and any info about the patch? interested on getting one for christmas but i wanna know more first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funguy Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I think the effect is the seek wah patch on the FM4, line 6 claim matt uses it under there artist section. but that's just my opinion after i was looknig into the FM4. http://line6.com/artists/182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse12 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 well, looks like a koass pad now you never see matt change koass pad settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 well, looks like a koass pad now you never see matt change koass pad settings. What's it got to do with MOTP though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabnit Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 well, looks like a koass pad now you never see matt change koass pad settings. That's what i thought it was a while back. But that demo is a delay effect surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabnit Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 "BPM effect function with flexible BPM detection" "Twenty types of BPM effect can be synchronized to the tempo of your music to control delay time or the pan, phaser, or flanger LFO. Of these, eight can synchronize a rhythm pattern or synth bass to the BPM, and play it from the touch pad. You can set the BPM manually, use Auto BPM to detect it from an input source, use the Tap Tempo function to set the BPM by pressing the Tap key, or control BPM from incoming MIDI Clock messages". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse12 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 what effect is it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 If anyone is willing to host a mp3 file for me, PM your email address, it may be of interest to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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