Alec Ferris Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 It does occur to me that Mastodon did one of their proggiest albums with Brendan O'Brien, who's produced tons of mainstream albums. Though a little part of my was hoping against all probability that they'd get in touch with Kurt Ballou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I don't know.. Is he a bad producer? I don't really know him.^^ Wouldn't say he's bad, he worked on many successful artists and albums... But let's say I don't really dig the sound of those albums. But afterall, Muse have already written the tracks, and can't see a producer (albeit a "big" one like him) changing that much. Honestly I'm just glad they're working with a producer again, that hopefully means the record won't be all over the place like TR and T2L. But did it have to be this guy? *sigh* Basically this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimz Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Honestly I'm just glad they're working with a producer again, that hopefully means the record won't be all over the place like TR and T2L. But did it have to be this guy? *sigh* Well, I think someone who worked with both AC/DC and Gaga fits them well. I really hope the next album will be more cohesive than their self-produced ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 inb4 Witz (because AC/DC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Back In Black sounds fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Does this mean it'll sound raw?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Ferris Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The man produced for Shania Twain and Britney Spears. Do you think that makes rawness likely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The man produced for Shania Twain and Britney Spears. Do you think that makes rawness likely? shania twain is raw as fuck. ka chingaaaaaaaaahh mofos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnage94 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They didn*t put picture of him working with Gaga, but ACDC instead. Raw confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Definitely raw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haarpuna Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Say what you want, but I miss Rich Costey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 say what you want, but i miss rich costey. #bringbackcostey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I still don't know where this "working with producer = cohesiveness" comes from... Is it realistic to assume just because they have a producer this time, that Matt just happened to write more songs than for the last few albums, to pick ones that "match?" Or if they had a producer for T2L, they would somehow have drastically altered the genres of those songs to fit together? Maybe I'm really misunderstanding the role of a producer, but I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 To be honest, I'm not too sure how much the producer actually matters. Given that they've produced the previous two albums themselves and written the current album already, is it likely that he'd even have that much influence over the direction of the current album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 those albums. Oh jeeezzz. Michael Bolton? Shania Twain? Nickelback? Bryan Adams? Look at all the classic tracks he co-wrote. This man produced everything Nirvana tried to strangle in the early nineties. Way to be raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 To be honest, I'm not too sure how much the producer actually matters. Given that they've produced the previous two albums themselves and written the current album already, is it likely that he'd even have that much influence over the direction of the current album? Who says they only got him on board now? Maybe he was involved with this album from the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Well, he's not co-writing anything here, because we know Matt had already written everything a while ago, and he's not coaching a boy band... so I'm assuming he's there to help with the mixing and mastering, and all that sort of jazz. Who says they only got him on board now? Maybe he was involved with this album from the start? It seems far more likely that it was announced now, after the first recording session, because he's going to be involved with finalizing the album, and not that he was involved from the get go, influenced Matt's compositions, and they kept it quiet until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 It depends on what he's doing really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Is the Multi-Quote button missing for everyone, or do I have a personal problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Ferris Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 This man produced everything Nirvana tried to strangle in the early nineties. Way to be raw. Nirvana were quite happy to let Andy Wallace make Nevermind palatable for a wide audience. People get their knickers in a twist over rawness way too much. Lots of my favourite heavy albums have a fair amount of polish. To be honest, I'm not too sure how much the producer actually matters. Given that they've produced the previous two albums themselves and written the current album already, is it likely that he'd even have that much influence over the direction of the current album? Indeed. If most of it has been written already, his influence will be seriously limited. Muse have already made their intentions fairly clear, I find it hard to see him seriously taking against that and trying to make them do something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I still don't know where this "working with producer = cohesiveness" comes from... Is it realistic to assume just because they have a producer this time, that Matt just happened to write more songs than for the last few albums, to pick ones that "match?" Or if they had a producer for T2L, they would somehow have drastically altered the genres of those songs to fit together? Maybe I'm really misunderstanding the role of a producer, but I don't think so. It's not just because a producer is there, but given the discography of that guy, it's safe to assume there won't be 12 genres for 12 songs on this one (which ties in with what they've been saying for a while). so I'm assuming he's there to help with the mixing and mastering, and all that sort of jazz. It's too early for mixing and mastering, and why would they announce who mixes/masters it. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 So, you think if Matt wrote a mixed bag of in cohesiveness for this album again, he's going to be sent home to redo it by a producer? Because that seems to be the general feeling of the "producer = cohesiveness" crowd, and it doesn't make sense to me. Doesn't mean they're mixing it now, but they probably would have to book a big guy in advance, wouldn't they? And my honest guess would be they announced it right now for attention, and it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Nirvana were quite happy to let Andy Wallace make Nevermind palatable for a wide audience. They picked Wallace because he was relatively unknown at the time, and because they liked his heavy work. They weren't too keen on how slick the sound came out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 What about the inverse? Maybe they don't want to do try something new with every song this time so they went to a producer to just help them get the sound they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 What about the inverse? Maybe they don't want to do try something new with every song this time so they went to a producer to just help them get the sound they wanted. Also absolutely possible. Still doesn't equate to the producer being a magical fix all, or indicate that the album's going to sound like Nickleback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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