spiderpirata Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Hi! i just want to know the essential effects for a Muse cover band we will cover Rage Against the Machine and Black Sabbath btw my favorites are Supermasssive Blackhole C.E Deadstar Small Print Neutron Star Collision. right now, im looking into these pedals Fuzz Pedal - Vexter Fuzz Factory? Fuzz Head? or any germanium fuzz will do? Distortion Pedal - Wampler Pinnacle? Wampler Triple Wreck? MI Effects Super Crunchbox? Digitech Whammy? Muse is not much into delays right? because im thinking of buying the Zoom MultiStomp for delays/reverbs and modulations i think the essential stomps for Muse is a good Distortion and Fuzz pedal? and the whammy? *** and i saw these, Matt's pedalboard in 2010 dunlop interview Wah-blue box EQ FuzzHead-Diezel - it means that he boost his diezel with the fuzzhead and fuzz factory ? Fuzz Fact-Diezel Marshall Diezel Egnater thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If you have decent amp channels you don't need a fuzz or distortion, but can't hurt delay, whammy. For the songs you listed that's honestly all you'd really need I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Phaser (Either a Phase 90/100 or one that is similar to them) Delay (Preferable digital for a cleaner sound) Reverb (Some delays have a reverb in them) Whammy As Dominic said, a good amp distortion will sound better but if you want one in pedal form then it would be best to try a few out. See what sounds good to you. Matt uses amp mixing to achieve a lot of his tones so trying to get one that sounds like him is futile. If you have a distortion that sounds good to you it will always sound better to you than anything Matt supposedly uses. Hell, I even use a DS-2 for most of my Muse stuff. A bit of useful advice on the fuzz factory. Its good for squealing, thats about it. There are other fuzzes on the market that have far more usable fuzz tones. As with distortions its a case of see what sounds good to you. An EQ pedal is a very handy thing. It can be used to create very different tones mid song, it can be used for solo tones or simply as a boost pedal. If you can get something like a Boss GE-7 or an MXR EQ pedal for cheap then go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderpirata Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Is it advisable to get the Phase/Delay/Reverb/Tuner/EQ in a Multi effects? have you seen the the Zoom MS50g, MS-100bt and the new MS-70cdr? hehe. i only have a SS amp at home, a roland cube. as of now, my stomps are TC Flashback and a Crunchbox and im thinking of selling the flashback to give way for the Zoom Multistomp. because i cant think of a Muse/RATM/Sabbath songs that are delay heavy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Invincible, Sing for Absolution, Dead Star (depending on how you play it), Fury, Sunburn, Guiding Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderpirata Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB6Bu9ktr20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD5IteX0JCk - madness solo part is it a fuzz? i think i want this kind of tone. ***** so all i need is a good Distortion/Delay/Whammy for the basic sounds right? Edited June 11, 2013 by spiderpirata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I just read the titles but I think that's fuzz you're looking at. I mainly used distortion/delay/whammy for a while and I could probably still get by on just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3adstar Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Is it advisable to get the Phase/Delay/Reverb/Tuner/EQ in a Multi effects? have you seen the the Zoom MS50g, MS-100bt and the new MS-70cdr? hehe. i only have a SS amp at home, a roland cube. as of now, my stomps are TC Flashback and a Crunchbox and im thinking of selling the flashback to give way for the Zoom Multistomp. because i cant think of a Muse/RATM/Sabbath songs that are delay heavy? Surely the flashback will do the job of the delays/reverbs or is it not the big flashback? I personally use the line 6 m13 for everything at the moment, got some fantastic delays, mods, synth stuff and the distortion stuff Is proper good once you dial everything in...plus it looks intense but as Dom and dave said it'd be best to get a good amp with channels for the distortion Edited June 11, 2013 by D3adstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderpirata Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 i have the small flashback, not the flashbackx4 Amp is not my priority as of now. hehe all i need now is the whammy and a fuzz and also i want my board to be simple. up to 6 pedals maybe. hehe. so i think a fuzz-whammy-crunchbox-flashback will get the job done for me still looking for a nice fuzz though. is the big muff acceptable for muse tones? or a fuzz face is more appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 You can do a badass solo and quiet bit in ce with ff and delay. And you can use delay in a load of muse songs, just sometimes it's more subtle.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think both will do a great job for Muse... your bass player is going to have a tougher time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 The Fuzz Factory is one of the most versitile fuzz pedals out there. There are better for individual fuzz tones, but never a range. I have a nice collection of fuzz pedals, generally worth more than a Zvex FF these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowella Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 The Fuzz Factory is one of the most versitile fuzz pedals out there. There are better for individual fuzz tones, but never a range. I have a nice collection of fuzz pedals, generally worth more than a Zvex FF these days. This. Considering the Fuzz Factory doesn't have a tone knob, you can get a bit out of it, for sure. Anyway, guitar effects I would recommend these pedals will give you a chance to emulate Muse: Phase 45/90/100 - I would say this or any phasers that are subtle like them (compared to say the EHX Small Stone) Fuzz Factory - Might as well, it is the staple of quite a few songs. Whammy - 4th Version perhaps. The new one is good though for Unsustainable and the likes. Delay - Your flashback will be fine Tuner - Seriously, the amount of people without them... That will be enough IMO. A lot of the sound searching will have to come through amp setting and guitar. A decent distortion and/or reverb would not be a bad idea either if your amp's is not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Whammy IV or V I don't think make much of a difference as far as Muse stuff is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowella Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Whammy IV or V I don't think make much of a difference as far as Muse stuff is concerned. Just thinking of the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Just thinking of the cost. ...that would be something I looked over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yeah, cost is the only problem with the 5. And that it doesn't have a dry output I guess, but I never used that and don't imagine many people do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderpirata Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 is it advisable to use a multieffects unit for the delays/reverb/phasers/tuner? anyone here uses multieffects for their modulations and time based effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 If you are going down the multi fx route, pick one that does tap tempo... should be useful for many muse songs using delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomparrot Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yeah, cost is the only problem with the 5. And that it doesn't have a dry output I guess, but I never used that and don't imagine many people do I have a patch lead going to my tuner from my dry output but nothing other than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Honestly I would just recommend a Line 6 HD500 multi-fx pedal and make your own presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderpirata Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 do you have any idea on what songs the keeley compressor is used? or it is always on.? because i thought compressor are only used on clean settings? and Google says compressors are essential effect for guitarists. someone offered his keeley compressor for my flashback which is i think a good deal for me. but i dont know when to use the compressor. even john mayer uses one. hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It's not an important effect for doing muse cover. If you can buy something like line6 M9 or M13, it could be perfect. You just need some cool delays, a good distortion, whammy, and that's it, don't forget a good amp. And that's it, all is in the settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderpirata Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 actually im looking for my own sound now. hehe my desired sound would be: treble booster for rhythm fuzz for lead whammy for some solos i dont like delays. hehehe right now im looking for a fuzz pedal. hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Check theses fuzz : - Way Huge Swollen Pickle - Keeley Fuzz Head - EHX Big Muff PI - Fulltone 70' - Dunlop Fuzz Face - Zvex FF You must find the one you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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