The Muse Awards!

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I was going to say the same thing. Matt sings' date=' plays guitar, plays piano, [b']writes all the songs[/b]. Chris plays bass. Who's more talented? It's not just about opinion, it's fact

Unless you think that his bass playing beats Matt's piano-playing, guitar-playing, singing and song-writing

[LyraSilvertongue]

Unless you think that his bass playing beats Matt's piano-playing, guitar-playing, singing and song-writing

 

In which case, you would be a fool.

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

I never said that you called any of them more talented than Matt

 

Okay, my opinion is, that if you say that Dom or Chris is more talented than Matt, you don't know anything about music. Better?

 

What do you even base such an opinion on? Neither Dom or Chris has written any songs. They have written some catchy and good parts for their instruments, and Chris can sing backing vocals.

 

Matt is considered one of the best guitarists today, and even if you don't agree(I don't), he has still written all of Muses songs(eventually with input from Dom and Chris, yes), and all the riffs, and some of the bass riffs, are his, and many of them very original. He's also a very good pianist and a really good vocalist.

 

I largely agree. Let's just say the other two are talented in a different way. Chris can sing, play guiatr, bass and drums. That's more than being multi-skilled, it's talent. And I'm sure he's written a lot of the Muse bass lines to songs. Dom's a very creative drummer and works drum patterns and beats into songs that Matt's written perfectly. Again, talent.

 

Matt, however, is the all-rounder cos he can do all the things you mentioned - sing, play piano and guitar brilliantly and create original and inspiring riffs/songs, plus he's got the creative integrity to write lots of songs and even scores for symphonic pieces (The International/Exogenesis). So, to me, he's the best of a very good bunch. /end ongoing rant

 

I'm gonna update mine, cos some stuff has changed.

 

Best Song: Hyper Chondriac Music

Best Song played live: Bliss

Best Live Performance: Stockholm Syndrome @ Glastonbury 2004

Best Live Show: Montreux Jazz Festival 2002

Best Studio Album: Origin of Symmetry

Best Single: Bliss

Best DVD: Hullabaloo

Best B-side: HCM <3333

Best Cover: House Of The Rising Sun

Best Jam/Riff: Osaka Jam

Best Collectible Release: Showbiz and spanner/OoS and screwdriver

Best Video: Bliss

Best Lyric: Soulless is everywhere OR Like a broken dam you're empty

Best Song Name: Exogenesis

Best Album Name: Origin of Symmetry

Best Album Opener: Take A Bow

Best Album Closer: Exogenesis Symphony. Although Megalomania is amazingly close behind.

Best Live Opener: Take A Bow

Best Live Closer: Bliss (extended + balloooons!) OR SS+major outro riffages!

Best Setlist: Probably Montreux Jazz Fest again

Best Riff: New Born

Best Drumming: Stockholm

Best Bass-line: Hysteria

Best Drum Kit: Clear Tama (I miss it )

Best Guitar: Bomber Manson

Best Bass: Fender Jazz Blue

Funniest Moment: Uprising on Italian show performance/Hey You Crazy Kids @ One Big Sunday!

Best Tour: Absolution

Best Intimate Gig: RAH 2008

Best Piano Song: Ruled By Secrecy/Space Dementia/Hoodoo... too many amazing ones!

Best Album Artwork: Abso (although I LOVE Origin, too!)

Best Single Artwork: B&H

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/clothes era): RED MATTEH! But BH&R Matt was better dressed/looking.

Best Looking Member: Teh Wolstenholmer!

Best Dressed Member: Dom . He got me into colourful trousers and Spidey suits .

Most Talented Member: Matt. See above ramble for reasons [/COLOUR]

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In which case' date=' you would be a fool.[/quote']

Well Chris made the Hysteria ba....oh no, he didn't, Matt did.

[Hat]

I largely agree. Let's just say the other two are talented in a different way. Chris can sing, play guiatr, bass and drums. That's more than being multi-skilled, it's talent. And I'm sure he's written a lot of the Muse bass lines to songs. Dom's a very creative drummer and works drum patterns and beats into songs that Matt's written perfectly. Again, talent.

 

Matt, however, is the all-rounder cos he can do all the things you mentioned - sing, play piano and guitar brilliantly and create original and inspiring riffs/songs, plus he's got the creative integrity to write lots of songs and even scores for symphonic pieces (The International/Exogenesis). So, to me, he's the best of a very good bunch. /end ongoing rant

TBH, playing guitar, bass and drums isn't really a proof of talent. Anyone can play guitar, creating music on the instrument and actually being a good guitarist takes talent. I'm not saying Chris can't write songs, I'm saying that he hasn't shown it.

 

Any instrument can be played without talent. Creating interesting and good music with them is a whole different thing. Chris is a good bassist, but that's it, sorry.

[devonscreen]

Best song: Stockholm Syndrome

Best song played live: Stockholm Syndrome

Best live performance: Wembley Stadium 2007

Best live show/ gig: Glastonbury 2004

Best studio album: Absolution

Best single: Plug In Baby

Best dvd: H.A.A.R.P

Best b-side: Dead Star

Best cover: Feeling Good

Best jam/ riff (e.g. Osaka/ Maggies' Farm etc.): Osaka Jam

Best collectible release (e.g. OoS promo with screwdriver/ Muse EP etc.): dunno

Best video: Starlight

Best lyric: "Believes we could be glorious"-Glorious

Best song/album name: Black Holes and Revelations

Best opener: Hysteria

Best closer: Knights of Cydonia

Best setlist (name the gig): Glastonbury 2004!!!!

Best riff: Stockholm Syndrome

Best drumming on a song: Stockholm Syndrome

Best bass-line: Hysteria

Best drum kit: Tama Clear Transparent

Best guitar (instrument): M1D1 Manson

Best bass (instrument): dunno

Funniest moment: Matt slipped over at Live 8 (during Bliss) :LOL:

Best tour: South American 2008

Best 'intimate' gig (smaller venue): Royal Albert Hall 2008

Best piano song: Redemption

Best album artwork: Absolution

Best single artwork: Invincible

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/ clothes era): Black Holes and Revelations

Best-looking member: Dominic Howard (sorry matt )

Best dressed member: Dominic Howard

Most talented member: Matthew Bellamy

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Btw hyper_chondriac_muser, I'm guessing you're gonna count all this later. Are you going to count votes for Dead Star and In Your World as best B-Sides?

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

TBH, playing guitar, bass and drums isn't really a proof of talent. Anyone can play guitar, creating music on the instrument and actually being a good guitarist takes talent. I'm not saying Chris can't write songs, I'm saying that he hasn't shown it.

 

Any instrument can be played without talent. Creating interesting and good music with them is a whole different thing. Chris is a good bassist, but that's it, sorry.

 

True enough, but I think Chris has proven that he's good at playing the instruments mentioned. Yes, I agree that he hasn't shown any song-writing skills, cos that's always been Matt's field, and I don't see it changing any time soon. Again, that's why Matt seems most talented, cos he's had the opportunity to showcase more talent than the other two.

 

Btw hyper_chondriac_muser, I'm guessing you're gonna count all this later. Are you going to count votes for Dead Star and In Your World as best B-Sides?

 

Lol, I was considering counting 'em all if there's not a ridiculous amount of votes (and if I can be bothered). And, no, DS/IYW don't count as b-sides... They were double A-sides on a single, so it doesn't count to me .

[JoshyBarth]

Best song: Full Exogenesis: Symphony

Best song played live: Citizen Erased

Best live performance: Citizen Erased @ Manchester LCCC 2010

Best live show/ gig: Manchester LCCC 2010

Best studio album: Black Holes and Revelations

Best single: Stockholm Syndrome

Best dvd: HAARP

Best b-side: Glorious

Best cover: Where the Streets Have No Name Feat. The Edge

Best jam/ riff (e.g. Osaka/ Maggies' Farm etc.): MK Jam

Best collectible release (e.g. OoS promo with screwdriver/ Muse EP etc.): Muscle Museum EP

Best video: MK Ultra (MTV Exit)

Best lyric: "Controlling my feelings for too long" - Showbiz

Best song/album name: Knights of Cydonia

Best opener: Uprising

Best closer: Knights of Cydonia

Best setlist (name the gig): Wembley Stadium 11/09/2010

Best riff: MK Ultra Main Riff

Best drumming on a song: Assassin (Grand Omega Bosses Edit)

Best bass-line: United States of Eurasia (+ Collateral Damage)

Best drum kit: The Resistance Era Drums

Best guitar (instrument):Mirror Manson

Best bass (instrument): Status Stealth

Funniest moment: Sit the Fuck Down - Slipknot Mask

Best tour: The Resistance Stadium Tour

Best 'intimate' gig (smaller venue): Royal Albert Hall

Best piano song: Ruled by Secrecy

Best album artwork: The Resistance

Best single artwork: Cave

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/ clothes era): Red Suit (Wembley 2007)

Best-looking member: Dominic Howard

Best dressed member: Christopher Wolstenholme

Most talented member: Matt Bellamy

[Hat]

True enough, but I think Chris has proven that he's good at playing the instruments mentioned. Yes, I agree that he hasn't shown any song-writing skills, cos that's always been Matt's field, and I don't see it changing any time soon. Again, that's why Matt seems most talented, cos he's had the opportunity to showcase more talent than the other two.

Yeah, I'm not saying that Chris doesn't have talent, just that he hasn't really shown any real talents making him worthy of "most talented member of Muse". But tbh, I doubt that he is.

 

And really, Chris is a good bass player, but guitar? And drums especially. When has he proven any real talent in that?

 

Lol, I was considering counting 'em all if there's not a ridiculous amount of votes (and if I can be bothered). And, no, DS/IYW don't count as b-sides... They were double A-sides on a single, so it doesn't count to me .

It would be cool if Dead Star won both best single and best b-side

[Horcrux]

Best song: Butterflies and Hurricanes

Best song played live: Bliss

Best live performance: Stockholm Syndrome @ Earl's Court 2004

Best live show/ gig: Wembley Stadium 11th Sept. '10/Earl's Court '04

Best studio album: Absolution

Best single: Bliss

Best dvd: Hullabaloo

Best b-side: Eternally Missed/Glorious

Best cover: House of the Rising Sun

Best jam/ riff (e.g. Osaka/ Maggies' Farm etc.): Osaka Jam

Best collectible release (e.g. OoS promo with screwdriver/ Muse EP etc.): Muse EP

Best video: Knights of Cydonia/Bliss

Best lyric: Hoodoo

Best song/album name: Exogenesis: Symphony

Best opener: Take a Bow

Best closer: Knights of Cydonia

Best setlist (name the gig): Pinkpop '04/Wembley 11th Sept. '10

Best riff: Plug in Baby

Best drumming on a song: Assassin

Best bass-line: Hysteria

Best drum kit: Clear kit

Best guitar (instrument): Glitterati

Best bass (instrument): Headless Bass

Funniest moment: "SIT THE FUCK DOWN!" or the switch over on the italian TV show

Best tour: Absolution

Best 'intimate' gig (smaller venue): Royal Albert Hall

Best piano song: Ruled by Secrecy or Space Dementia

Best album artwork: The Resistance

Best single artwork: Map of the Problematique

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/ clothes era): Red haired Matt, and 2006-present

Best-looking member: Matt

Best dressed member: Dom

Most talented member: Matt

[Livs]

Best song: Invincible/Time is Running Out

Best song played live: Time is Running Out

Best live performance: Bliss Rock AM Ring 2010

Best live show/ gig: Royal Albert Hall

Best studio album: Black Holes and Revelations

Best single: Uprising

Best dvd: HAARP

Best b-side: Map of Your Head

Best cover: Cant take my eyes off you

Best jam/ riff (e.g. Osaka/ Maggies' Farm etc.): Maggie's Farm

Best collectible release (e.g. OoS promo with screwdriver/ Muse EP etc.): Showbiz and Spanner

Best video: Starlight

Best lyric: You're still nothing to me,, And this is nothing to me And you don't know what you've done, But I'll give you a clue- Uno

Best song/album name: Undisclosed Desires

Best opener: Knights of Cydonia

Best closer: Stockholm Syndrome

Best setlist (name the gig): Glastonbury 2010

Best riff: Plug in Baby

Best drumming on a song: Stockholm Syndrome

Best bass-line: Hysteria

Best drum kit: Clear stadium Tama kit

Best guitar (instrument): Manson Glitterati

Best bass (instrument): Fender Jazz (the red/orange and black one)

Funniest moment: Matt shouting 'WANKER' in Dom's ear then Dom chasing him with his drumsticks and pushing them up Matt's ass

Best tour: The Resistance 2010

Best 'intimate' gig (smaller venue): Teenage Cancer Trust (Royal Albert Hall)

Best piano song: United States of Eurasia

Best album artwork: Absolution

Best single artwork: Butterflies and Hurricanes

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/ clothes era): Black Holes and Revelations era

Best-looking member: Matt

Best dressed member: Dom

Most talented member: Matt-Chris-Dom

[TomWillett97]

Best song: Hysteria

Best song played live: Citizen Erased

Best live performance: haarp

Best live show/ gig: haarp

Best studio album: Absolution

Best single:Hysteria

Best dvd:HAARP

Best b-side:Futurism/Fury

Best cover:Feeling Good

Best jam/ riff (e.g. Osaka/ Maggies' Farm etc.): Osaka Jam

Best collectible release (e.g. OoS promo with screwdriver/ Muse EP etc.): Random 1-8

Best video: KoC

Best lyric: -x

Best song/album name: -x

Best opener: New Born

Best closer:KoC

Best setlist (name the gig): -x

Best riff:Hysteria

Best drumming on a song:

Best bass-line: Hysteria/Futurism

Best drum kit: Transparent

Best guitar (instrument): Glitterati

Best bass (instrument): Headless Bass

Funniest moment: Slipknot Mask

Best tour: BHAR Tour

Best 'intimate' gig (smaller venue): -x

Best piano song: Sunburn

Best album artwork: TR

Best single artwork: PiB Cd 1/2

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/ clothes era): Red Hair

Best-looking member:

Best dressed member: Matt

Most talented member: Matt

[Megan.]

Best song: TiRO at the moment

Best song played live: Citizen Erased

Best live performance: No idea

Best live show/ gig: Dunno, never been to one

Best studio album: Absolution

Best single: TiRO

Best dvd: HAARP, only one i've got

Best b-side: Fury at the moment

Best cover: House of The Rising Sun

Best jam/ riff (e.g. Osaka/ Maggies' Farm etc.): Erm...

Best collectible release (e.g. OoS promo with screwdriver/ Muse EP etc.): No idea

Best video: Can't think of one

Best lyric: Second verse of MoTP, Visions of greed you wallow from Showbiz

Best song/album name: City of Delusion/Origin of Symmetry

Best opener: Uprising

Best closer: Knights of Cydonia

Best setlist (name the gig): Dunno...

Best riff: New Born

Best drumming on a song: Resistance

Best bass-line: Hysteria

Best drum kit: See through

Best guitar (instrument): Glitterati, Silver Manson

Best bass (instrument): Dunno

Funniest moment: Too many to list

Best tour: Absolution?

Best 'intimate' gig (smaller venue): Don't know

Best piano song: Ruled By Secrecy

Best album artwork: The Resistance

Best single artwork: MoTP

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/ clothes era): Blue hair!

Best-looking member: Dom

Best dressed member: Chris

Most talented member: Matt

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

Yeah, I'm not saying that Chris doesn't have talent, just that he hasn't really shown any real talents making him worthy of "most talented member of Muse". But tbh, I doubt that he is.

 

And really, Chris is a good bass player, but guitar? And drums especially. When has he proven any real talent in that?

 

 

It would be cool if Dead Star won both best single and best b-side

 

He's shown he can play guitar in live footage - some early performances he's played guitar and a few acoustic performances he switches to guitar. He played drums with Hey Molly not so long ago, and there was video footage of it (can't remember where) - proving he's good at both. It doesn't mean he's some amazing-whizz guitarist/drummer, too, but he's more than competent in both. But yeah, neither makes him more talented than Matt. The main reason Bellamy has the edge is cos of songwriting, guitar wizardry and piano skillz... he outperforms both because of that.

 

I'll make sure Dead Star doesn't win the b-side award!

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He's shown he can play guitar in live footage - some early performances he's played guitar and a few acoustic performances he switches to guitar. He played drums with Hey Molly not so long ago, and there was video footage of it (can't remember where) - proving he's good at both. It doesn't mean he's some amazing-whizz guitarist/drummer, too, but he's more than competent in both. But yeah, neither makes him more talented than Matt. The main reason Bellamy has the edge is cos of songwriting, guitar wizardry and piano skillz... he outperforms both because of that.

 

I'll make sure Dead Star doesn't win the b-side award!

Like I said, I know that he can play both instruments, the question was, where does he show any TALENT in it? He is a mediocre guitar and drum player.

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

Like I said, I know that he can play both instruments, the question was, where does he show any TALENT in it? He is a mediocre guitar and drum player.

 

Which is why I went on to say that Bellamy is the talent king as he outperforms due to his sheer skill on piano And guitar... AND songwriting. If he was just an amazing guitarist we wouldn't be having this conversation because they'd all be equally-matched in that they all excel at one instrument. But Bellamy's skills are threefold (or more) lol. I promised myself I wouldn't get sucked into a debate about this, but it just keeps going . I'm officially stopping.

 

I'll collate results when a few more posts have come in

[OriginOfGeorgia]

Best song: Stockholm Syndrome

Best song played live: Bliss

Best live performance: Glastonbury 2004

Best live show/ gig: 11th Wembley 2010

Best studio album: Absolution

Best single: Stockholm Syndrome

Best dvd: Hullabaloo

Best b-side: Dead Star

Best cover: Cant take my eyes off you

Best jam/ riff (e.g. Osaka/ Maggies' Farm etc.): Helsinki Jam

Best collectible release (e.g. OoS promo with screwdriver/ Muse EP etc.): Muscle Museum EP

Best video: Knights Of Cydonia

Best lyric: You make me sick, because I adore you so

Best song/album name: Origin Of Symmetry

Best opener: Knights of Cydonia

Best closer: Space Dementia

Best setlist (name the gig): 11th Wemberz 2010

Best riff: Plug In Baby

Best drumming on a song: Assassin

Best bass-line: Hysteria

Best drum kit: Gold one

Best guitar (instrument): Gliterati

Best bass (instrument): Fender

Funniest moment: Sit The Fuck Down/Wanker

Best tour: Absolution

Best 'intimate' gig (smaller venue): Royal Albert Hall, if you class that as intimate

Best piano song: Ruled By Secrecy

Best album artwork: Absolution

Best single artwork: Unintended

Best Bellamy (Matt's hair/ clothes era): V Festival 2008

Best-looking member: Matt

Best dressed member: Dom

Most talented member: Matt

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Which is why I went on to say that Bellamy is the talent king as he outperforms due to his sheer skill on piano And guitar... AND songwriting. If he was just an amazing guitarist we wouldn't be having this conversation because they'd all be equally-matched in that they all excel at one instrument. But Bellamy's skills are threefold (or more) lol. I promised myself I wouldn't get sucked into a debate about this, but it just keeps going . I'm officially stopping.

 

I'll collate results when a few more posts have come in

Don't forget vocals

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

Don't forget vocals

 

Yeah you're right. Can't believe I missed that actually... his voice is amazing sometimes (insanely high notes in Showbiz and Micro Cuts), plus he's just a great vocalist in general.

[LyraSilvertongue]

Yeah you're right. Can't believe I missed that actually... his voice is amazing sometimes (insanely high notes in Showbiz and Micro Cuts), plus he's just a great vocalist in general.

 

I was just going to point out that you'd missed out his vocal skillz. I think that's one of his main talents actually.

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

I was just going to point out that you'd missed out his vocal skillz. I think that's one of his main talents actually.

 

I know! Maybe cos it's such a given and obvious talent he has that I just left it out completely, lol. His voice definitely got infinitely better over the years... in the early years it was almost whiny at times (), but it developed so drastically... now he sings any song with effortless brilliance on stage.

 

On a separate (on-topic) note - have you done this awards thing yet? I'm just curious (or some would say nosey ) to know what people would put as their 'bests' .

[Hat]

I know! Maybe cos it's such a given and obvious talent he has that I just left it out completely, lol. His voice definitely got infinitely better over the years... in the early years it was almost whiny at times (), but it developed so drastically... now he sings any song with effortless brilliance on stage.

 

On a separate (on-topic) note - have you done this awards thing yet? I'm just curious (or some would say nosey ) to know what people would put as their 'bests' .

Well, that's part of the talent, In his early years he didn't do proper voice exercises and working on his technique, which makes it more of a talent than just something he has learnt(Like learning to play an instrument).

 

I used to slag off his new voice because he has lost much of the falsetto,but now I think that BH&R has his best vocal work.

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

Well, that's part of the talent, In his early years he didn't do proper voice exercises and working on his technique, which makes it more of a talent than just something he has learnt(Like learning to play an instrument).

 

I used to slag off his new voice because he has lost much of the falsetto,but now I think that BH&R has his best vocal work.

 

Falsetto's one of his biggest (and most obvious) vocal talents. To carry notes of that pitch/level is mad... especially when he translates it to a live show. Some of the Bliss falsettos he's done over the years are insane! One of my favourite live falsettos generally has to be Showbiz from Hullabaloo... I was left after I heard it.

 

I still think he's able to sustain a really impressive note to this day (Take A Bow's brilliant ending, Overture, the backing/layered vocals to Uprising etc.) even live, but it's not as strong as before, naturally.

[LyraSilvertongue]

I know! Maybe cos it's such a given and obvious talent he has that I just left it out completely, lol. His voice definitely got infinitely better over the years... in the early years it was almost whiny at times (), but it developed so drastically... now he sings any song with effortless brilliance on stage.

 

On a separate (on-topic) note - have you done this awards thing yet? I'm just curious (or some would say nosey ) to know what people would put as their 'bests' .

 

I think his voice was stunning on Showbiz and has only got better over time. Seriously, I've never heard a singer whose voice I enjoy listening to more than Matt's.

I'm out at the moment but I'll work on my awards nominations when I get home (probably after too many glasses of wine)