Boombleeb Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 Huh, I didn't actually know that. It would be cool if there was another B-side album with Easily, Glorious, Crying Shame etc. on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Yeah it's been discussed here quite a bit through the years but honestly, I don't think they could put together enough songs for an album. Crying Shame, Easily, Glorious, Eternally Missed, The Groove, Fury, what then? covers like Popcorn, Prague and possibly recordings of Sign o The Times and Lies? Or maybe Man of Mystery? And then the Hidden Song and finally Who Knows Who What an album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Yeah it's been discussed here quite a bit through the years but honestly, I don't think they could put together enough songs for an album. Crying Shame, Easily, Glorious, Eternally Missed, The Groove, Fury, what then? covers like Popcorn, Prague and possibly recordings of Sign o The Times and Lies? Or maybe Man of Mystery? And then the Hidden Song and finally Who Knows Who What an album. What if they're keeping tapes or files in a vault or in a digital archive, which existance has never been disclosed, just to release never-heard-of gems in eventual re-issues of their historical albums, like many famous bands love to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 What if they're keeping tapes or files in a vault or in a digital archive, which existance has never been disclosed, just to release never-heard-of gems in eventual re-issues of their historical albums, like many famous bands love to do? I'd love that to happen but I doubt it ever will. The closest we'd get to that happening IMO is that they'd include a couple of old, unheard tracks on a new album (like Radiohead tend to do but with songs previously played live) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Considering the quality of their A-sides, I'm not sure I wanna hear what they've got hidden away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Considering the quality of their A-sides, I'm not sure I wanna hear what they've got hidden away. I think a lower quality of those hypothetical hidden tracks shouldn't be taken for guaranteed. Many times artists tend to leave more "experimental" and less mass-appealing songs out of albums. An example of this is Klaxons with the EP Landmarks Of Lunacy, which contained outtakes of Surfing The Void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think a lower quality of those hypothetical hidden tracks shouldn't be taken for guaranteed. Many times artists tend to leave more "experimental" and less mass-appealing songs out of albums. An example of this is Klaxons with the EP Landmarks Of Lunacy, which contained outtakes of Surfing The Void. You do realise they were made to redo that album because the label rejected it? A similar thing happened with OOS in the USA, which meant it wasn't released there for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Shine Acoustic is where it's at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 You do realise they were made to redo that album because the label rejected it? A similar thing happened with OOS in the USA, which meant it wasn't released there for years. Yes, I remember it. And, as I've said, they released the outtakes they actually had. If anything, it's an infamous example of how some labels reject non-commercial sounding or experimentally daring albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Yes, I remember it. And, as I've said, they released the outtakes they actually had. If anything, it's an infamous example of how some labels reject non-commercial sounding or experimentally daring albums. They ended their deal with Polydor, as well as self-releasing that EP. If a band is coming up with music outside of their remit and believe in that material, it can destroy deals, which is what happened with Klaxons and Muse with Maverick. Considering Muse seem to have a decent relationship with Warner, you can't conclude that they are not releasing more challenging material just to please their label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 They ended their deal with Polydor, as well as self-releasing that EP. If a band is coming up with music outside of their remit and believe in that material, it can destroy deals, which is what happened with Klaxons and Muse with Maverick. Considering Muse seem to have a decent relationship with Warner, you can't conclude that they are not releasing more challenging material just to please their label. Well, you know, I've always believed Warner still allows them absolute creative freedom, but sometimes I can't help but thinking if there might be more obscure material derived from their latest recording sessions, the T2L ones in particular (when they claimed they wrote a plenty of songs before going back into studio). I would be very disappointed if they'll confirm they've destroyed all of those probably existing tracks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Seems like you simply WISH that there was more obscure material out there. But of course Muse have demos lying around, just like every other artist in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipso Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yeah it's been discussed here quite a bit through the years but honestly, I don't think they could put together enough songs for an album. Crying Shame, Easily, Glorious, Eternally Missed, The Groove, Fury, what then? covers like Popcorn, Prague and possibly recordings of Sign o The Times and Lies? Or maybe Man of Mystery? And then the Hidden Song and finally Who Knows Who What an album. Soaked as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Soaked as well.Not sure about that one. Not sure how the rights work but can they even release it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Not sure about that one. Not sure how the rights work but can they even release it? Well, the original composer was Matt, but they sold the rights to Adam Lambert... I don't know how they could put it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Well, the original composer was Matt, but they sold the rights to Adam Lambert... I don't know how they could put it out. I'm well aware of the history of the song, that's why I'm unsure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I would be very disappointed if they'll confirm they've destroyed all of those probably existing tracks... Why would they even do that!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Why would they even do that!? Exactly, it's not like they're Martin Grech or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Why would they even do that!? Do you remember when Matt negatively twitted in response to a follower's question about the existance of B-sides for Drones? Well, that's where my worries about the issue come from. More precisely, they claimed they had left some tracks out of the album, but they were not planning to release them. Where might those tracks have ended up to? Edited May 27, 2016 by MartianSpaghettiRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 They never even recorded them, more than likely, like with the last albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Do you remember when Matt negatively twitted in response to a follower's question about the existance of B-sides for Drones? Well, that's where my worries about the issue come from. More precisely, they claimed they had left some tracks out of the album, but they were not planning to release them. Where might those tracks have ended up to? this one? Because he didnt confirm the existence of b-sides in that one at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Doesn't Dom tend to hoard demos and unreleased stuff, or is that just for things from the early days (pre-Showbiz)? Either way, I doubt they'd actively erase anything that doesn't get released. Soaked popping up years after it was actually recorded probably suggests that the unreleased stuff is kept somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 this one? Because he didnt confirm the existence of b-sides in that one at least. Thanks, that's it! Yes, here he doesn't confirm any b-side ready, but I remember I've read somewhere that thing about a pair of songs discarded from Drones. Unfortunately I don't remember precisely where... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Thanks, that's it! Yes, here he doesn't confirm any b-side ready, but I remember I've read somewhere that thing about a pair of songs discarded from Drones. Unfortunately I don't remember precisely where... He's making the point that there's no such thing as "B-sides" any more. That's all, as physical releases for singles are less common, the point of B-sides is redundant these days. A couple of songs being "discarded" can mean all sorts of things. But it doesn't mean literally deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 He's making the point that there's no such thing as "B-sides" any more. That's all, as physical releases for singles are less common, the point of B-sides is redundant these days. A couple of songs being "discarded" can mean all sorts of things. But it doesn't mean literally deleted. Maybe I did look too much into it. It's just a pity to me they aren't releasing b-sides anymore and perhaps I'd just like to discover if there's more than meets the eye regarding their two latest releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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