daveno1 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Does anyone know if his whammy and delay both went through the effects loop on his dsl? I would assume his whammy was first then delay. Also does he use the dry and wet inputs on whammy? (so his original note is still there without it changin pitch, but the altered sounds comes out a different speaker) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rust_relic Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would say the whammy, delay and volume pedal went into the front of the amp, that way Matt can control the gain with the volume pedal, likely the dry output went to the tuner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would say the whammy, delay and volume pedal went into the front of the amp, that way Matt can control the gain with the volume pedal, likely the dry output went to the tuner He had a volume pedal at that point? I'd say that's correct, but maybe with the delay in the FX loop No idea if he has the dry signal going to a separate amp or not (I think he had a second DSL 50 and the fender 4x10). I'll have to listen to some different recordings from around that time, as I didn't really notice two separate sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveno1 Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 That was a little earlier but I think during solo u can hear the original notes and chords being played then in background the octaver notes going through different amp, or at least i think thats whats happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rust_relic Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 This was on the Sunburn Tour, the Hullablaoo setup was simpler with only the Marshall DSL and a few effects http://www.musewiki.org/File:Origin_of_Symmetry_Pedalboard.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 My whammy does a harmony mode so you don't need to use the dry output to hear both notes at the same time. I don't know if the WH-4 has that mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 That was a little earlier but I think during solo u can hear the original notes and chords being played then in background the octaver notes going through different amp, or at least i think thats whats happening. yeah, but that doesn't appear to be the whammy he's using. It's likely that he has the dry signal going to a different amp. there are 4 or 5 amps there. Here's a recording from around the time of hullabaloo... I don't hear any of the dry signal during the solo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UieldWIg03Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveno1 Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 I might experiment using another cab hooked up to dry to see what kinda fullness it gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 The top comment: THE YAMAHA PACIFICA 120 THE FIRST MANSON ON THE WORLD!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I can't remember where I found this but I think it applies to this situation. Edit: I don't know why the text got fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Looking at the DVD footage it looks like he uses the exact same pedalboard as posted by rust_relic. He is generally associated with an orange torlex JCM 2000 DSL 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo57 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Edit: I don't know why the text got fucked up. It's a gif with alpha transparency. Copy the image's URL (I use chrome so I right click it and hit "copy image url) then put it in the address bar and go, it should give it a white background so you can read it. And that's my contribution to this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I'd imagine he used it a lot like Morello with everything in the loop. But the amp is clearly cranked right up to get the power amp working as well. Again, same with Morello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 He really loved Morello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveno1 Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 doesnt whammy sound shit in loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 doesnt whammy sound shit in loop? Depends on how you use the amp in question. Morello & Bellamy are well known for turning their amps up, getting the power amp working hard, as well as the speakers, which has a big impact on the resulting sound, which will be smoother. If they turned their amps down, the Whammy especially would be tinny and horrible when used in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedster Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 doesnt whammy sound shit in loop? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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