crabfish Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 It's not Concerto No. 1 its Concerto No. 2 btw last night I watched HAARP DVD and I noticed if i'm not in error, that Matt plays the 2 inicial chords of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2 He actually plays 3, then an augmented fourth. I mentioned this earlier in the thread like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrogzappa Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 He actually plays 3, then an augmented fourth. I mentioned this earlier in the thread like. I only spotted the begging of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabfish Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I only spotted the begging of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2... Sorry I meant he plays the first 3 chords, and augments (or something) the fourth chord. I'm not a musician so I'm not sure what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrogzappa Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Sorry I meant he plays the first 3 chords, and augments (or something) the fourth chord. I'm not a musician so I'm not sure what I'm talking about. I am but I have to see that part again... we are talking of the same part right? end of Hoodoo?? I don't know (yet) the entire DVD from the begging to the end so I might be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrogzappa Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHmpAIWTwrI I'm almost 100% sure those are the initial chords of Concerto No.2 btw listen to the modified chords he does... he plays them for a long time live, when I listened to then live a 1 year ago I didn't like them, but now I simply love them They create a atmosphere much more adequated to the song. EDIT: someone tell me how to embed a video here... :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubicmage Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 That doesn't necessarily make it correct, else Tchaikovsky'd have double FF too Oh well. 'Rachmaninoff' looks much better therefore I shall use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabfish Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHmpAIWTwrI I'm almost 100% sure those are the initial chords of Concerto No.2 btw listen to the modified chords he does... he plays them for a long time live, when I listened to then live a 1 year ago I didn't like them, but now I simply love them They create a atmosphere much more adequated to the song. EDIT: someone tell me how to embed a video here... :S Yeah those are the same chords, the fourth (last) chord he plays is definitely a variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 we get the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrogzappa Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yeah those are the same chords, the fourth (last) chord he plays is definitely a variation. looks like it... that chord sequence is one of the coolest things on the DVD... apart from Stockholm Syndrome's Riffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laztozia Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 looks like it... that chord sequence is one of the coolest things on the DVD... apart from Stockholm Syndrome's Riffs I was totally gutted when I saw that bit! One of my songs is based around those 4 chords. looks like it's going to have be scrapped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 looks like it... that chord sequence is one of the coolest things on the DVD... apart from Stockholm Syndrome's Riffs i'm playing them on my guitar right now! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrogzappa Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 i'm playing them on my guitar right now! :D Improv is cool to play too! The only new riff to me on the entire DVD was the last "demented"riff on SS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Improv is cool to play too! The only new riff to me on the entire DVD was the last "demented"riff on SS... what's improv, i've heard of it but.. link!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 I've WANTED THE TAB FOR THAT IMPROV FOR AGES!! PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkybar=] Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The piano solo to butterflies and hurricanes is really rachmaninov [sp?] esque. If you listen to any rachmaninov, the whole arpeggio style chords are really in Butterflies And Hurricanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobytoss Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 ;4158787']The piano solo to butterflies and hurricanes is really rachmaninov [sp?] esque. If you listen to any rachmaninov' date=' the whole arpeggio style chords are really in Butterflies And Hurricanes.[/quote'] The strings in the cadenza have a near-exact augmented quote of the theme of the 3rd mvt. of the Concerto No. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debi Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I can hear the Plug In Baby riff in Piano concerto No.1 in f sharp minor, Op.1, 2nd mvt (andante) at around 2.54 to 3.05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Muse Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Seems like i need to do a bit of searching on this Rachmaninov bloke. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobytoss Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I can hear the Plug In Baby riff in Piano concerto No.1 in f sharp minor, Op.1, 2nd mvt (andante) at around 2.54 to 3.05. I can't quite find it, could you make a clip of the exact bit? I always assumed he'd based it more off Bach's Toccata and Fugue in Dm so it'd be quite interesting to find that it was actually Rachmaninov too I found another one in OoS which was really obscure but I can't remember where it is exactly. It makes me wonder if the entire album is based on various bits of Rachmaninov... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debi Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I can't quite find it, could you make a clip of the exact bit? I always assumed he'd based it more off Bach's Toccata and Fugue in Dm so it'd be quite interesting to find that it was actually Rachmaninov too I found another one in OoS which was really obscure but I can't remember where it is exactly. It makes me wonder if the entire album is based on various bits of Rachmaninov... No idea how to take clips, sorry, but it's there! Around 2.24 of this vid. (Ends on 2.47) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s81kevjSjZY And you're right, I am starting to think that maybe OoS was based on his work. It's probably what makes it such a great album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderHorse Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Music Degree, Much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recentlyentered Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Hey guys, I'm just resurrecting this thread cos I thought some of you might be interested in this article I wrote about Muse and Rachmaninoff. <Symphony in J: Muse tracks use Rach> Hope you enjoy it! Even if you already know about the connections, I go a bit deeper into the analysis so hopefully you'll still find it interesting. If you guys like it, I might write a sequel about more of Muse's classical influences (like a certain Chopin nocturne...). (Sorry if this seems spammy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanceToBeHeard Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 BUMP Just wanted to say that that article was really kickass and insightful. It was just what I was looking for as far as Muse/Rachmaninov comparisons go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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