^ iunno. my 8 year-old mind was asking the very same thing. and you guys do know that if we were to agree to go as a group, it'd be imperative that we all meet there on the day at around the same time, so as not to step on anyone's toes by jumping queue. and i think i'll be going pretty early. as in sun has just risen over the horizon early. so if you can agree to that, we can make a date of it. otherwise, we could probably form two groups. one earlier, one later.

i'd say both but i don't really have grounds to diss kiara cos i've never attended a concert there before. i have been there for the starlight cinema thingy (pun unintended...er this one wasn't intended either...-.-;; REALLY) and all i could remember from the experience was hearing the mosquitoes shouting "free food!! free fooood!!!" in glee all night, and the overwhelming stench of horse manure. so powerful it was that i kept superimposing the head of a horse onto johnny depp's shoulders, mocking me throughout the night. crazy didn't exactly have a blissful experience each time she went there either, or at least that one time i know for sure she did, but that was more due to the unethical and overzealous young crowd rather than the terrain itself. FC...what can i say about it. i've actually already said my fill, which i'm sure you've noticed, so i don't think i should repeat myself. and should you have read the singapore gig thread then you'd realize that the slopey terrain wasn't exactly conducive to the experience at all. i believe it was mentioned that it's great in theory but phailed big time in practice because the organizers hadn't taken the crowd's overenthusiam into consideration when deciding upon the venue. i also wouldn't entirely blame the organizers either for being overwhelmed (cos it's not something they'd expect based on past concert organizing experience) and i'm sure they know better now, that is to prepare for the worst no matter how docile you think the crowd will be. taking things for granted will only lead to grievous consequences. you're half right tho. it's not really fair to blame the venue when it works fine at other times. there were a lot of other factors involved that night and the terrain just didn't help matters much, if any at all, that's all. so forgive me if i don't completely agree with your opinion.

no. just...no. and hey, don't ignore me! i've been to stadium negara!! only i was 8 and was there for Disney on ice...

^^^ very nice. really looking forward to meeting up with you, then. so is it just you alone? got your bus tickets already? and yanno, it's entirely quite possible that you're the one who snapped the last of it up...sure took a while to sell out but sell out it did. and given that this is malaysia we're talking about, that word being used at all is an amazing feat in itself. (hoping one of the numbered or free seating ones will be the next to go, then) p/s: you've heard me say it before but i'll say it again: winning avie =PP

have i ever told you how much i love your sense of humor? if the answer's no, well, then, i do. hey there, guilt-stricken. going as a group doth sound pretty amazingly good, doth it not?

...bai. you left out the 'bai'.

yanno, skylar...i finally took a good look at your avatar. not only that, i even took the time to try to make out what is it all about exactly. and i'm sorry for it now.

i know it exists. i've just never seen it before. tho it probably shouldn't come as a surprise cos i'm kind of a slacker and don't really /look/ for things...even things i tell myself i want badly. *chuckle* right, your question. if i was out of it enough to completely miss MoTP and Bliss (even while i was just standing there and watching the balloons being popped one after another), what makes you think I'd be paying attention to what he's actually singing? xP i was so far removed, i prolly still would've completely missed it if he sang the whole thing in Hokkien. so i cheated and checked youtube ahahaha. bet you never thought of doing /that/, huh? xxxD er...ignore that last bit. anyway that's what i did, and the answer is....nope. followed the album version to a T. well almost to a T, but you get what i mean...right?

^^; well yanno me. once i have something i wanna say, i need to get em all outta my chest so there might be some irrelevant stuff i've mentioned in there. sorry you had to go through all that, heh heh...if you did, that is. and thank you. and the absolution dvd is but a myth to me.

lol actually every time i've been run over in an environment when the adrenaline surge is high, it's almost always a male of the young (prolly still a high-school goer or a first year college freshie) and malay variety. i never really thought much about it but thinking back on it now, i've never really had that kinda problem with males of other races...malay girls, on the other hand, are generally nicer than some from the other races that i know, my own included. so it's a race + gender thing, i reckon, tho not in the biological sense so don't get me wrong. here, let me elaborate: i'm sure they're punks of other races but i'm willing to venture a guess that their problem all boil down to their attitudes. they prolly aren't very likeable at other times either but these malay kids, they probably are great people, so i'm not saying that they don't have hearts in all the right places, because they do. even moreso than the others but let's not go there. they do, however, in a high-energy environment, seem more prone to letting all the adrenaline go to their heads and cloud their judgment than other people of the same gender but different races. and if i have to turn analytical, i'd venture that it's the environment in which they grew up, and the people they hang with, rather than their biological makeup cos that just plain doesn't make sense, that makes them more prone to totally losing themselves. which means, i don't think that all the young malay kids of the male kind are all completely uncouth when excited. i'm aware that i may be stereotyping some but i'm also well and truly aware that it's not written in stone that as long as they're young and they're malay, they're all gonna be like that. I have met quite a few who behave in an exemplary manner...but there do seem more of the former than the latter in events like this in M'sia, based on personal experience (which i'm sure you yourself have a lot of, crazy...more than I do even, if we're talking about gigs held on local grounds). =/ in hindsight, though, most of the nice malay guys i've met in int'l concerts here were pretty stable and laidback and...they're adults. so there's no telling that when these hooligan-wannabes become full blown adults, they won't do a complete 180. sigh...or maybe i should just chalk it down to MUSE bringing out the worst in everyone. it's all their fault. bloody over-talented freaks. and tackling that other issue you brought up, crazy, there aren't that many fans gathered in this thread to begin with, a handful only, really, if you factor in just how many turned up to buy tix on the 7th. it's just the same old people over and over again with the occasional new handles who post sporadically and then disappear altogether. that, and let's not forget that i said most chinese who like these sorta bands are bananas, meaning english is their...our...strongest mean to express ourselves in, written or spoken. the rest will go for stuff like...leehom, i guess (ironically, leehom is pretty much a banana himself but it's all about catering to the market innit xD)? whereas, like i said earlier, for malays, it doesn't matter whether or not they speak good english, they are more partial to the english rock scene (and this is totally my biasness speaking, have better taste in music) in general. so with this board and thread mainly in english, i don't think they'd feel too driven to post here. a couple tried, trying to start conversations but in malay, and well, you saw for yourself how that turned out. we answered, though in english, and they're never seen or heard from again, resulting in the only malays who remain gathered here to post regularly are ones like yourself and nuts and a few others i'm sure, who are on top of the food chain within your racial bracket when it comes to communicating in english...and, at the risk of stating the obvious, there really aren't that many of you.

indeed. there /are/ chinese fans...i saw quite a lot of em...but most chinese who listen to them are prollly bananas...if ya know what i mean...and i've always had the impression that malay rock fans seem partial to britrock and indie stuff so yeah, there were a substantial amount of youngish malays that day. i heard, tho not in so many words, that a lot of them (the young ones) aren't the politest of people and that even if you're a tiny weak sickly girl standing at about 4 feet in height, and one of them can easily triple you in mass and body weight, will still gladly step on your face to get to the front. this doesn't bode very well for some of us...i'm not vain by any means but i still love my face for the biological and physical convenience it allows me. granted i'm neither sickly nor weak, and neither am i a 4-footer, i'm not very substantial in size at all...someone bellamy's size will break into tiny lil pieces in there...and i'm smaller than him. that group idea is really sounding more and more like an extremely wise one...

70 rockzone tix left? w00t, i hope those sell out quick, too...no wait...i hope they sell out /after/ Nutz and his bro and his bunch of frens have gotten theirs. You guys had better hurry if you don't wanna have to settle for seated tix. in fact, i hope everything sells out by by CNY...

02 looks good to me. i can smell it even... and i seriously don't doubt the restrictions are just there for show. galaxy, the /major/ organizer, has firmly said there aren't any. they're probably the ones responsible for handling all the red tape. i imagine tigermusic's role in being joint organizer is to advertise, promote and generally spread the word. and like someone else has said, since tigermusic's the one handling all the publicity, they probably had little choice but to put that restriction notice there to throw authorities off their back. no doubt the 'event' in question is merely the buying of beer from the stand located in some corner. i wouldn't worry overly much if i were you.

lol well if the meetup mentioned earlier actually happens, and happens on the 24th, maybe we can make a stopover at the venue and see if there's any sound emitting from within. xxD

...i don't really consider myself a hardcore...i'm more a fan of their music rather than the band themselves (and after their negligence towards the crowd in s'pore, they can go $#%$& themselves but their music...it's innocent so yeah i'll continue supporting them cos of it xP ---OK no i'm being not entirely serious but i am still more of a fan of their music rather than them...always have been...i'm this way with all the bands i like anyway but and i /am/ a lil pissed off at MUSE). and stalking's a bit much, isn't it? but hey, kudos to those of you who are going through with it and have great fun if you really get to meet em. don't forget to let them know to take more notice of what's going on in the crowd when onstage and say something, /anything/, when they notice something amiss. but soundchecks...they're done within the venue itself, aren't they? and no way they're gonna open the gates before at least an hour before showtime. hotel near KLCC? you talking about Mandarin Oriental? *whistles* pricey, classy place, that.

uh not that i noticed. i didn't exactly catch every phrase they uttered cos i was a little...off...but if they did, i think my subconscious would've picked up on it and no, it isn't ringing any bells either.

haha he said that? nice of em to know of that tagline...embarrassing tho it may be. xxD i can kinda imagine how bellamy, at least, will pronounce 'terima kasih' but i also have a feeling that if howard were to say it, it probably wouldn't sound half-bad; enough for the crowd to recognize the word for what it really is, anyway. xD

i already have an inkling how that would come out sounding like and believe me, it'll just sound like english to you until later, when you rewind it in your head and realize it really wasn't.

1. then you'll be the one getting a tetanus jab up your butt cheek. pls refer to one Mr. Dominic Howard for further advice. (there's also a clip of that unfortunate event, btw. at the very end of the US version of the TIRO vid...which can be found in the vid clips section of microcuts.net) 2. nothing to say about that tho i think wearing bermudas would be a better and more comfortable choice. 3. hey, if that nutter wore a long coat during the dry heat of the australian summer, your wish could just be granted, yet. 4. for reasons undisclosed, i share that same fervent hope. and then some.

oh wow, congrats for solving the mystery, deb. you can sleep better now. ^_^ and like i said, i'm game for any one of those two dates i mentioned. it's all up to the rest of you now.

hey, i have the very same red one, you saw it yourself...er that is, i posted a pic. and the rest can be gotten via the muse.mu merch store...only more expensive since everything's in freakin pounds. /huffs

^how much are the rates? i don't think a lot of them are looking for something overly lavish. they are after all, MUSE fans, not IL DIVO's. xxDD no...not implying that MUSE fans are a bunch cheapskates (i am, after all, one myself but i'll be the first to admit i can be rather cheapskate when i wanna be...but it has nothing to do with MUSE, i promise) but their age ratio, compared to IL DIVO's, are rather much, noticeably so, even, younger and have a tighter budget constraint, i would imagine. i think a budget hotel will more than suffice. still running google for 'em as we speak. speaking of which, crazy, i couldn't find anything about that mandarin whatever hotel you mentioned near the area except for this one and it looks kinda OTB (over-the- budget) to me... and as for the gathering...well, if you guys are serious about it, 23 or 24 Feb both sound about fine to me. i'd slap in a time and venue as well but it's really not for a single person to decide so why don't we work something out around these two dates? anyone who can make it are welcomed to join and help come out with defense strategies (xxxD) and anyone who can't--join, that is--well, we'll see you on the 25th...something like that?

it's not on petaling street per se. just near it. it's still a main road away, up a hill, pass Stadium Merdeka on the right, and you'll see it to your left (unless you're coming from the opposite direction, in which case it's the, well, opposite). either way, if you find yourself in the petaling st. area, you're near enough that you prolly can't go wrong.

or the maharajalela monorail stn cos works fine as well. it's the one nearest to petaling street. ...i fink.

...cos the rest of them do? i think it's nice he has one stripped-down-to-almost-bare-essentials one. this way, less people can accuse him of being all dependant on fuzzy logic and effects... ...tho i don't think he actually had it built with that exact purpose in mind...