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hi it's time for my biannual post here. I recently invested in a Line6 Helix, has anyone else got or used this, and are there any recommended settings for a good muse style fuzz? a lot of the fuzz models seem to sound either really scooped in the mids, or really harsh on the high end. before I got the helix I had an old Boss ME-50, and I used to run the big muff fuzz model with all the bass cut out into the the overdrive channel of my amp, and it actually worked surprisingly well. however as the models on the helix more closely resemble the controls of the actual pedals, there's no bass control for the big muff/triangle fuzz I have a couple of ideas on how to get closer to the sound, I've started to use a parallel signal with an overdrive to fatten out the fuzz a little, it works to an extent but I need to figure out the balance between the two signal paths first. the other thing is obviously using some kind of equalisation, I know that you typically put an EQ quite early in the signal chain, but since I'm trying to specifically affect the fuzz signal, would it be worth placing one after the fuzz?
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doesn't he have a backup for every guitar?
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if only it was pointy, we could call it the red arrow
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watching the austin360 gig back that they broadcast on facebook (here), looks like matt has at least 2 new guitars with floyd rose bridges, one matt black and one that looks silver. played the black one during psycho and the silver for hysteria
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thought it sounded like his blue box tbh
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you could try moving the mic further away from the cab, and further away from the centre of the speaker cone. also definitely try using a room mic as well, although it might need some trial and error to find a position for the room mic that works well with the close mic
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ok it's taken a while for me to find any good quality videos of this song where you can get some idea of what matt plays live in the bridge (ie "I won't let you control my feelings any more" onwards) but I think I've got enough now to have a stab at it. obviously the album version is just two different guitar parts playing octaves so I haven't bothered tabbing that out so here's what I've got for the live version I won't let you control my feelings any more e|--------------------------------------------------------- B|------------------------------------------5-------------- G|-7-------------------9-----------10---------------------- D|--------------------------------------------------------- A|-5-------------------7-----------8--------4-------------- D|--------------------------------------------------------- and I will no longer do as I am told e|--------------------------------------------------------- B|----------------6---------8---------8-------------10----- G|--------------------------------------------------------- D|------------------------------------5-------------7------ A|----------------5---------5------------------------------ D|--------------------------------------------------------- and I am no longer afraid to walk alone e|--------------------------------------------------------- B|----------10-------------------------10------------------ G|----------9--------------------------10------------------ D|----------7--------------------------7------------------- A|--------------------------------------------------------- D|--------------------------------------------------------- let me go let me be e|--------------------------------------------------------- B|---11---------------------------------------------------- G|---10---------------12--------------14------------------- D|---8----------------8---------------10------------------- A|--------------------------------------------------------- D|--------------------------------------------------------- I'm escaping from your grip e|--------------------------------------------------------- B|---------------------------------------15---------------- G|-----14--------------------------------14---------------- D|-----11--------------------------------12---------------- A|--------------------------------------------------------- D|--------------------------------------------------------- you will never own me again e|--------------------------------------------------------- B|---------15-------------------14------------------------- G|---------14-------------------14------------------------- D|---------14-------------------14------------------------- A|--------------------------------------------------------- D|---------------------------------------------------------
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I just posted that in the manson thread I thought it looked black as well
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victory over the sun alternates between 7/4, 9/4 and 4/4. can't think of any other biffy songs in 5/4 off the top of my head, although a fair few of them have the odd bar here and there in a different time signature to the rest of the song
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spanish radio is in 5/4, maybe the place you googled got confused between the two
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after all that, I've noticed I made a mistab for the solo the bit that says B--4----4 G--6b7--6 should say B--4----4 G--7b8--7 *facepalm*
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also just to finish off, I think the final chords are x-x-x-13-13-13 (under "greatest guy") and then x-x-x-12-13-11
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ok here's my read of the tab from the bridge up to the final chorus E|------------------------------- B|------------------------------- G|---(5)-----(5)----(8)----(7)--- D|----5-------6------8------8---- A|----3-------3------6------5---- C|------------------------------- E|------------------------------- B|------------------------------- G|----5-------5--/7--8----8--7--- D|----5-------6--/8--8----8--8--- A|----6-------6--/8--10---8--8--- C|------------------------------- (play the above twice) E|-------------------------------- B|--------------------8----------- G|----8-------8---10-(8)---8--7--- D|----5-------6---6---8----8--8--- A|-------------------------8--8--- C|-------------------------------- E|-------------------------10----- B|----8-------9---9---11---11----- G|----8-------8---8---8----10----- D|----8-------8---6---8----------- A|-------------------------------- C|-------------------------------- then back to E|11-10-11-10 B|13-12-13-13 G|13-12-12-12 D|----------- A|----------- C|----------- edit: actually, slight modification to the final chorus. note that he sings the words in a different order in the video posted above to the studio version, so I'll refer to the words as he sings them on the video for purposes of clarity for the first half (from "my skin is warm to caress") he appears only to alternate between x-x-x-12-13-11 and x-x-x-12-13-10, then plays the above four chords for the second half (from "you taught me to lie without a trace" onwards)
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I don't think he's half a step down, the first notes of the solo look like x-x-x-8-10-x to me, 99% certain of it
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broad translation of the last question:
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watching that video again I think I could probably give the chords a go tomorrow. I think there's a biffy clyro-esque quality to that bit in that he plays fewer notes than it sounds like, and the bass fills in with the root note a lot of the time. also I don't think he plays the same chords in the same order at any point until it gets back to the chorus bit, which is inconvenient
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correction for the solo (sourced from here: ) E|------------------------------------------------- B|--8--------------------------4---4--4--4--------- G|--10b(12)--------------------6b7-6--5--3-3-3tr5-- D|----------------------7b------------------------- A|------------------6p0---------------------------- C|--------0-0-3p0-7-------------------------------- E|---------------------------------------------------------------- B|--8-------------------------------------16----15----13----11---- G|--10b(12)----------------------14b15----19b20-18b19-16b17-14b15- D|-----------------12h13p12--------------------------------------- A|--------------------------15p0---------------------------------- C|--------0-0-12p0------------------------------------------------
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well I was, but you've introduced doubts now
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1. whammy +1ve and delay 2. random whammy over what I assume is similar to the riff he played in the first verse of muscle museum at glasto
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er... if you're talking about the part of the song I think you mean (and tbf I'd class the 'loneliness be over' bit as the chorus but I'm assuming you're talking about 'I can't get it right since I met you'), then he just plays the root notes on the top string. it's actually just about the easiest part of the song to play oh and he does do it on the cd
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there are at least three different 16-step sequences... you can hear the different ones as soon as the drums kick in
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oh jeez, here we go again yes it is drop-c tuned the four chords are x3554x x6534x x6654x xx356x
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I think he still uses the original bomber occasionally... and of course the 7 string whenever they play citizen erased
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the guitar isn't always in drop c, he uses it for supermassive black hole... also invincible is in standard on guitar and he uses the other kaoss guitar for that
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which bit?