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Well if you have vinyl, its worth doing digital recordings of them, even if you're not planning on DJ'ing or anything like that.
Vinyl sound + digital convenience = (Admittedly purely the first is always more fun)
Oh and enjoyed the chill mix more!
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Thanks guys!
Yeah, I need to have a look at the "production" side of things, because I know nothing about that stuff. I do keep -9 db headroom on Traktor to keep everything nicely out of red. I guess adding a limiter would be possible using Audacity? Anyways, really need to have a look at that.
Added a new set today. It's mostly improv, but turned out surprisingly well aside from one sloppy transition. It's chill house with longer transitions and no droppage. https://soundcloud.com/juusoko/no-meds-just-chill-house
Nah, if you're clipping when in Traktor, it'll be clipped no matter what you do in Audacity afterwards.
Not a good idea to be adding limiting or even lighter compression to a lot of modern music, need to start getting vinyl rips for that sort of thing.
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No idea about Tracktor as I tend to use Ableton (Although not really done any DJ'ing for at least a year, need to get back on it) and stick to a -12dB rule and stick a limiter on the master. Having that sort of headroom allows for vinyl recordings to be mixed in with modern brutally mastered stuff.
Some nice tunes there though!
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Playing these dates this week:
11th Aug 2014 - Watford, The Horns
12th Aug 2013 - Norwich, The Blueberry
13th Aug 2014 - Leicester, The Shed
14th Aug 2014 - Stafford, The Grapes (TO BE CONFIRMED)
15th Aug 2014 - Birmingham, Actress & Bishop
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Hey Haze!
No plugins, just straight into my 8-track
The lead is three voices in unison with some delay; decided as an aesthetic choice to 'exceed headroom' in the recording as a kind of sonic counterpoint to the rest of the piece which is just organ, bass and another little flute synth
Real tape! I like what its doing to the sound, just felt it could be a touch less distorted, which is bizarre for me. I actually make use of an old Fostex 4-track on my band's new single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAi27zIvVcs Love these things so much.
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Very 70's, had me thinking of a more cheery and sped up version of Magic Fly by Space. If that's a tape saturation plugin you're using for the distortion on the synths, would use it more subtly than that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPoaRRVysnE
Oh and been putting old 3SC stuff up onto Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfX75KK1ADQ&list=PLZZceOFZibyLPWkFKnBgKsZA5gpKoYS5M
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https://www.youtube.com/user/3rdStoreyChemist - Been putting up demos of the various pedals I have (Probs about half way through I think), will do some of them on bass as well at some point.
James90 won't be happy, I'm only using the one channel on the Super Bass in them.
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Like you said, both tracks need to be the same volume to eliminate placebo effect. Is there a better technique than normalising?
My understanding is that vinyl artifacts might interfere with the peaks etc. and make the vinyl result quieter.
Not really, would need to be involved right through the entire process/have access to all that to truly conduct a scientific test.
Not sure what you're trying to say there about vinyl. If vinyl interferes with transients/peaks, then it is either compressing or distorting them, the former allowing for more gain and the latter will add harmonics, increasing the perceived volume.
Vinyl has difference characteristics to digital/tape, so what is required for loudness is different. Things like the shorter the track, the louder the record can be.
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Yeah, its very common, don't require a power amp.
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Haze will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you need to normalise both tracks to the same volume before you can compare the two.You need to make sure how loud you are listening to them is 100% the same, which is very difficult to do
What do you mean by normalising? Its usually used to raise/increase gain to a desire peak level, so wouldn't necessarily make them the same perceived level.
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Same speakers i used for a while. I'm not saying vinyl is better than CD, i don't think so. I'm just saying the Muse CDs are compressed and artificially louder. I'm not an expert but maybe these vinyl rips have a different master or don't have the loud process, can't really tell, just hear the differences.
You need to make sure how loud you are listening to them is 100% the same, which is very difficult to do. Even a 1dB difference can make something sound "better", when really, its just louder. Also vinyl impacts a very subtle distortion on the sound, its frequency dependant and different from traditional distortion, adding more character, which adds more complexity in comparing the two. Vinyl rips may have gone through amplifiers, which again, may add colour to the sound, rather than 100% clean.
Everything involved with music production is artificial. Vinyl will involve a lot of compression, especially with low end, but also helps bring up subtle details that would otherwise be lost with the limited dynamic range, just doesn't look like they've gone as far as clipping an A/D converter (It wasn't compression), which they did with the CD master. But the differences are not huge (Although the software you're using doesn't have dB meters, just numbers, which is useless) and are not necessarily perceptible.
Never trust what you see image wise, plus there are plenty of example of double blind testing with the same material where people are convinced they could hear a difference. Its difficult to make something sound worse than the BH&R CD though.
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What are you using to listen to these tracks (Speakers/headphones, treated/untreated space etc)? Are you making sure they are matched volume wise before comparing?
Such a bizarre world we live in where people think vinyl means more detail and transients. Extreme use of compression started with trying to overcome the problems with vinyl.
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Might speak to you about the Phase 90 tomorrow.
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Noo you though I mean the classical instrumentation (violins etc).
Humour is lost on you isn't it?
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I mean the guitar strings. There are six (you know)
What pretentious bastards use 6 strings?
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Hmm... It's still sounds like regular indie rock. Using the up string for single note riffs and the tipical indie chords.
Since when did regular indie rock make use of strings and synths?
There is a big Muse influence going on there, early Muse meets dancey-indie.
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[soundcloud]
D&B remix of Hysteria.
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Good idea or not?
Try it and "see" for yourself.
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The kaoss pad wankery. Completely unnecessary and sounds like a 10 year old who's just discovered electronic sounds or something
That's better.
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Can't tell if trolling. I'm going to assume so.
By saying all rock is better than pop, that's like saying Nickelback is better than Muse. I mean, Muse is pop, right? Pop rock? Genres suck.
/MossFromITCrowdVoice
Rock IS Pop!
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You say empire! empire!, I say Foetus
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel has to be the best band name of all time surely?
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The finish and body shape is really cool, just a shame about all the unnecessary features.