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A lot more people bought records in the sixties than people buy recorded music now because there was no other way to hear it other than to buy records or wait until it was played on the radio. Radios weren't as sophisticated so the sound was bloody awful (I'm old enough to remember.) Artists had to sell an astonishing amount of singles to get into the charts. I thought Prince was very clever giving copies of one of his albums to people who bought tickets to see his live shows. Do I remember rightly that people knew in advance? I was a bit annoyed that Muse didn't tell us they were going to do that this time but, actually, it was pretty clever of them. Those of us who had bought the album before we bought the tickets now had a spare album we could give to someone who hadn't bought it. That person might now want to buy more Muse albums and see them live so they have increased their fanbase. On the other hand, some fans found the price of tickets for the shows very expensive and probably would have preferred no 'free' album and a cheaper ticket for the gig. There was pressure on artists in the sixties to release albums and singles very frequently. A lot of them were badly served by their managers and many were defrauded so, as artists took charge of their careers, they were better able to do what they wanted, at least, the ones who were established and popular and were in a position to stand up to the suits.
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Article in question - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37317172
Considering it states that live music has also had a drop in revenue, I'm not sure what recording less and touring more would achieve.
Fair point. Now I'll probably get a warning for multiple posting/spam because I can only reply to one post at a time 'cos my brain is knackered.
Fair point about Matt's vocal issues. One of the bands I love is The Zombies. Both Colin Blunstone and Rod Argent have a vocal coach and do warm-ups before each performance and vocal exercises every day. Does Matt have a vocal coach or has he knackered his voice by not taking care of it as well as overuse? I certainly hope not.
Of course, why should they perform more when they don't need the money? I just feel sad for all the people who weren't able to see them this time.
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I don't understand, are you saying that they should tour more because they don't make any money making records anyway, or that touring more would raise the record sales?
And Muse are neither young nor healthy enough for more touring. Matt needed like 6 vocal breaks at every gig, and sounded like he was well on his way to getting nodules.
And why would you only see them every 6 years? Muse tour Europe constantly. In Britain you had loads of chances to see them in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015 and 2016. I mean it even says in your sig that you've seen them 3 times in 3 years.
I wasn't saying Muse don't make any money from record sales, really. Read my original post. I was asking if people thought it was a worldwide trend that bands are making less and less from record sales and would be better touring more and recording less. I have seen Muse three times in three years because I live very close to one of the venues where they did one of there intimate and stripped down gigs in 2015 and I was lucky enough to get tickets. It wasn't a regular thing. The gig I saw in 2013 was part of the 2nd Law Tour and the gig I saw this year was part of the Drones tour. I am well aware that Muse tour Europe regularly and I wasn't complaining that I don't have opportunities to see them. I wasn't complaining at all, in fact. I said that SOME fans were disappointed because Muse didn't perform anywhere that was close enough for them to get to. Was I incorrect in stating that? I said that I wouldn't mind if I had to wait longer than three years for each album if I could get to see them every three years. I was putting myself in the place of the fans who weren't able to see them at all this time. All clear now?
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Smart. Ignore my post until AFTER you've replied to Fabri. I mean, you would look like a fool if you had to address his existing touring issues when shutting down Fabri's point.
I didn't ignore your post; I didn't see it. I could have sworn that Fabri's post came directly after mine. Something strange is happening in my brain!
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A young, healthy band? What is this, 2003?
What does 2003 have to do with it? I love a lot of the bands who were young in the 1960s and still tour although they are in their 70s. There is less chance of a musician in his thirties having health problems than a man in his seventies. A lot of the older guys need the money and have no option but Muse clearly love performing live so it wouldn't be a chore if only they didn't feel they had to have a show that requires a massive stage and crew every time they go on tour.
Now, Fabri, do you have anything intelligent to say or do you HAVE to post every five seconds because your adoring public expects it?
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An item on the BBC News website today reports that sales of recorded music in Britain continue to fall. Am I right in assuming this is a world-wide trend? I know many Musers were unable to get to a show on the Drones tour because the tour didn't come to a place they could easily travel to. I think a young, healthy band like Muse will need to record less and tour more. I'm sure Musers would be happy to see a simple, stripped down performance if it means they get to see the band live. If I had a choice between seeing them live and waiting one more year for the next album or having an album every three years but only seeing them every six years, I would choose the former. What does everyone else think?
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Yeah, it's absolutely shocking, given the content of Muse's music and the perception of them as a band (that they encourage,) that they would have amassed some fans that are upset, and consider the band members hypocrites or sell outs when they transition from posting science and political articles on their Twitter, to tits and Paris Hilton on Instagram.
I mean, it *must* all be fat jealous fan girls.
Nah, I don't want to see tits on photos of the members of Muse.
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The only way I know that you can try to contact the band is through their record company/management. Lots of people ask this question all the time, as you can imagine.
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I never talked about the quality of said records.
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Between TKOL and AMSP we got 6 records basically. Atoms for Peace, Thom's, Phil's, Junun and the two Jonny soundtracks.
Not everyone liked Atoms for Peace or the others. I was just talking about albums by the whole band. How many Muse fans bought Vicky Cryer's album and would count it as a Muse album?
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I think they could take six months off and then do another tour in all the places they left our first time. They don't need to follow the pattern of 1-2 years to tour an album, then 1-2 years to write the next one. They are big enough and have a large and loyal fan-base so five years between albums would be acceptable to me. I don't know if anyone else agrees. Radiohead waited five years to release 'A Moon Shaped Pool' and I bet they haven't lost any fans in the process. They didn't tour, either, which is a shame, but they are at least ten years older than Muse so they probably want to do other things in between.
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Does anyone know whether Matt and Dom are still in Europe? I hope they and their homes are safe.
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A lot of artists feel it associates them with extreme political opinions, or ones they don't agree with, and especially when those are more conservative opinions, that can harm their popularity.
I don't disagree with that. The gen pop isn't known for digging deeper into things like that, and tend to take things at face value.
Going again to the case of Glenn Beck, it went beyond the use of the music, and on multiple programs Beck flat out stated that Matt shared his political philosophy, which is considered pretty hardline intolerant by a lot of Muse's target audience.
I'm not even 100% convinced Beck wasn't right, but I still don't agree that any press is good press in a case like this.
Especially when you consider conservative movements in the US typically platform on bigoted, anti-LBGT, anti-immigration, anti-Muslim, pro-gun, anti-women's rights issues...
Neither do I, I mean, I don't agree that any press is good press.
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As far as I've seen and understand, stopping such use usually depends more on publicity than legality. Make a big enough stink, and the person using the music will change due to bad publicity and embarrassment.
But in layman's terms, I believe that legally, radio stations already possess the right to play music, because these permissions have already been negotiated widespread. We as private individuals doing our own things have not negotiated such permission, so we can't do that on a public forum.
Fair enough. I still think Muse could and would stop this if they knew about it.
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I live in the San Francisco bay area. I think it was Machiavelli who said, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. With this in mind I occasionally listen to conservative radio talk shows on my drive to work. One of the shows is on station KSFO with radio host Brian Sussman. Sussman is a former TV weatherman who left TV to air his conservative opinions on the radio, one of which is that climate change is a hoax. The hoax is the product of "lefties" and "elitists" who have intentionally and falsely claimed the earth's climate is warming and human produced (anthropogenic) carbon dioxide is the cause. According to Sussman, the scientists and politicians who support the theory of anthropogenic climate change are part of a Marxist conspiracy, and the hoax of climate change is the vehicle they will use to implement their communist agenda.
Sussman's views on climate change are anti-environment and pro-industry. Because of this I was taken aback the other day when I heard the musical lead-in to the show following a commercial break. Sussman was playing Resistance as background while he began talking and the show resumed.
It is common for American conservative radio talk shows to use aggressive rock as the lead-in to the show after commercials. I guess they think this gives their commentary an edgy contemporary feel. I assumed, however, the radio station had the permission of the artist/band to use their music. So here's my question:
Did Muse authorize a conservative climate change denier to use Resistance to promote his radio show? Given the apparent political leanings of Muse (see, e.g., The Second Law) I find it hard to believe Muse would allow their music to be used by a talk show host who actively argues against the theory of climate change. At the very least, I would like to call the band's attention to the fact that this person is using their music, possibly without their permission and without paying for it.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post.
Unfortunately as long as it's used in a non-profit manner, it's likely completely legal.Douchebags like Glen Beck have been using Uprising for years and years now, despite Matt actually saying specifically he didn't like it used in such a manner.
I don't know anything about US law but British artists have told British politicians to stop using their music when they have not consented to such and I have no doubt that they would take legal action to stop them if they didn't do so voluntarily. I expect the practice is so widespread that neither the members of Muse nor their legal and other can keep tabs on it. If someone on the forum is a lawyer with knowledge of copyright law, I'd be interested to hear what they have to say. If it could be stopped, I am sure Muse and their legal team would be very grateful if fans reported suspected abuse of their intellectual property, their music and words, to promote anything they do not endorse.
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Done!
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Yeah, but I think it may be an interesting dynamic. Roger Daltrey has a stronger voice then Townshend, but they used it to convey different emotions. It wouldn't be a sing off, because you're right, Matt has a more powerful voice.
I don't know enough of The Who's music to be aware of the sing-offs. I'll have to educate myself! Pete Townshend is a showman who would be well up for that but I'm not sure Chris is confident enough to be interested. It would have been nice to hear his reply to your question.
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Adele just might be the coolest person on the planet.
What happened to Matt's invitation for her to sing with them? Did they show up when she was performing last night? I've recorded everything and so far have only seen Muse.
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No one told me Chris had sent in his answers!
I wish they had answered my question on incorporating Chris and Matt playing off each other with more singing like the Who did. I get the feeling Chris is too embarrassed to sing again
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Chris has said that he didn't enjoy singing lead when he performed the two songs he wrote live. I think he enjoys singing backing vocals. Perhaps he and Matt playing off each other would be a bit one-sided, given that Matt has a more powerful voice and is a more powerful presence so he would just dominate such exchanges? I don't think that would be fair to Chris.
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I thought I was the only one
No. I noticed it, too. What was the point? I was marvelling that Dom was singing in tune, and an inner part at that. Then he stopped 'singing' and the voices carried on.
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What if the UK votes to leave the EU? Will it be harder for Muse to play in EU countries? Will it be more difficult for fans from EU countries to see them perform in the UK? Will Matt and Dom now become US citizens?
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Interview with Muse included in a half-hour programme on BBC2 TV at 10.00 on Friday 24th.
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So I handed in this 10 page monster of a paper a week after it was due (whoops) and still managed to get an 83. It's not quite what I was hoping for as an outcome (please remember I finished this at one in the morning...) and I'm going to attempt to attach the entire paper in this post. Hopefully. I've also attached the lit review (I got an 97 for that, yay B+) I had to do for it, so hopefully that uploads as well. Both had to be resaved as PDFs so that's a thing). Please let me know if you have any issues
Congratulations!
. I've also attached the lit review (I got an 97 for that, yay B+) I had to do for it, so hopefully that uploads as well. Both had to be resaved as PDFs so that's a thing). Please let me know if you have any issues 
Fewer recordings needed and more live performances
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I didn't say the music industry peaked in the sixties. I wasn't intending to compare the sixties to today but I should have quoted the post to which I was responding which mentioned how many albums sixties and seventies artists released and how frequently they released them in comparison to the number of albums which are released by current artists.
When I said that a lot of artists in the sixties were badly treated by their management, of course I wasn't referring to the big, successful bands. If they had been defrauded, they might not have become big and successful. The Zombies, for example, just didn't catch on in the UK and only really became big in the USA after they had split up. Only the songwriters did well out of their sixties success; the rest were broke. I'm sure the same thing happens now but I'm guessing artists are more savvy than they were back then.