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I didn't know Yorke had a dodgy eye until fairly recently, I just love his music.
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I can kinda see where they could get that from.
Bodysnatchers is by far the better song though.
Yeah, they both have heavily distorted guitar.
Apart from that, though...
But yes. Bodysnatchers is better.
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First...The first was Stockholm Syndrome...
I wanted to play another song and my internet redirectioned me to this song..
So...in my bedroom:LOL:
A started to listen to Muse by an error...happy error!
I'm trying to work out what this means
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Exogenesis in full live would be atrociously cringe-worthy.
Not if its done properly. A live orchestra in a place with proper acoustics is truly astonishing, the sheer volume and quality of noise is incredible.
But if its synths...
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Same. I've only seen live recordings of it, but Resistance, for example, doesn't seem very exciting live. That's possibly just because I don't really like the song though.
That might be because when it's played live it sounds exactly the same as the album version apart from the guitar at the start. And well, like the album version, it lacks "oomph" and a proper climax. The most obvious "what-could-have-been" song on TR, in my opinion.
Album wise, I rank them like this:Absoution
OoS
OK Computer
Black Holes and Revelations
Kid A
The Resistance
Showbiz
All of Radiohead's other albums
No way in hell I would rate BHAR or TR above Kid A, In Rainbows and BHAR over OKC, Amnesiac or The Bends.
Depending on my mood I would even rate Kid A above Absolution/OOS.
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Ruled By Secrecy by Thom Yorke would be amazing.
Fuck yes.
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For a moment, I thought there was a glimmer of hope that Muse's live performances were getting better. Three gigs later, I realised they were simply back to their old dull gigs.
The band can perform at 150%; Matt, Dom and Chris could have discussions with the crowd; if the songs they're playing are slow and crap though, you cannot have a great gig.
You also cannot get a crowd going by playing GL and NSC before Bliss, and follow Bliss with USoE, FG and UD. Sure, it makes Bliss seem even more brilliant, but for God's sake, Muse need some fucking lessons on creating proper order in their setlists. Putting a song one after the other because the keys are the songs are in slightly correspond is a pathetic reason.
Isn't that what they've always done, though?
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Okay, listen, I'm not moaning over it because they're rushing. I'm just pointing out that "back in the day" Muse's sense of tempo sucked.
See post about Space Dementia.
When did they get a click track?
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I watched the DVD earlier and decided it's not as distracting when you're watching the performance itself. But just listening to it, while doing something else, it's distracting.
One example of this is Space Dementia, when Matt's playing the "intro" right before where the drums and then the vocals come in... It's ridiculously fast and you can hear the struggle between Dom and Matt, Matt rushing the crap out of it and Dom trying to pull it back in the eighth notes. It leaves the song feeling rushed and a little bit... empty? Agitated is also rushed, but that's a song that it actually works in, if you know what I mean. It's an angry song lol.
I think I'm distracted by it because I play some classical music and I'm in the marching band, so tempo is a focus. I'm not trying to really pick on it as much as I have been.
+1
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Musicians make bad albums. Epic, legendary musicians have made "bad" albums and they are no less epic or legendary for having made them. Muse is no exception to this. They're not infallible or untouchable, they just happened to put together an album that missed the mark with some fans...and that's okay. The fact that TR isn't universally embraced doesn't mean that the end is nigh. It just means Muse will have more critics to answer with album number six.
This is all perfectly correct, but you'll notice that the moaning here indicates that people are staying on, despite their obvious disappointment. If they'd given up, they'd leave.
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"You can't push us underneeeeeath the ground, ...--you, cantstopit, screeeaaaming out!"
Oh, right. I thought it was completely different...
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Just listen to it
I have no idea what he sang there
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CE '04>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CE '10
it's really lacking the energy it used to have and the awful mix didn't help (why were the synths so loud)
I liked the loud synths, they helped with the wall-of-noise effect during the bridge that I adore on the studio version.
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I thought PiB has really sounded superb recently, something about the opening riff is more "atmospheric" and bigger in scale. So PiB '10 definitely better.
SS '04 maybe wasn't musically as good but had mindblowing energy and passion.
CE '10 for me, their recent performances of it have nailed it every time.
I disagree with the tempo comment though - I've been quite vocal in saying that their early gigs had the wrong tempo (too fast, made some of the songs feel a bit artificial and rushed), but I thought 2004 was the year they started to get it right.
Oh, and I reckon that the drumming this year has been the best it has ever been.
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It was a bit of an anti-climax with all the hype it was getting with being "a whole new level for the band" and "very very special guest". It was a ordinary cover, and The Edge? Come on!
A good gig, not anything special though.
That's what you get for taking what they say seriously
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Bullshit
Agreed
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Chorus of Screenager
Whooooooooooooo
youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeere
was so beaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuutiful
remembeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
who youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
weeeeeeeeeeeeeere
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I disagree about Redemption. It should be longer.
CP maybe feels a little rushed, should also be a few minutes longer.
I'm not really disagreeing but I'm saying the first part of Redemption feels a bit... drawn out.
And Blackout is, depending on my mood, #2 or #3 for me. It is an atypical but extraordinary song.
I can understand the comments about Exo 'not fitting' in with the rest of TR. It's so different and self-contained that it contrasts starkly with the precise flow of the rest of the album (almost all the songs but especially Resistance and UD sound better when the album is played from the start in order). It's probably better to think of IBTY as the closer and Exo as its own thing... because, boy, does it work as its own thing.
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Flaws in CP and Redemption?
The only flaws are that it's not long enough...
I've said this at least four times, so I risk sounding like a broken record... but the Redemption intro feels too long (although I understand why it's so long given the melody) and CP has flow issues after the intro. Bother are superb, but neither are perfect.
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Yeah that's what I mean. It's controversial saying it's good these days.
But it is... I mean, it's not perfect (we all know about the flaws in CP, Redemption etc.), far from it, but it's impressive that they did it at all, and for the most part did it very well.
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What the bloody shit.
There's controversial, and there's just plain...
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I don't remember if it was here, or elsewhere, but someone said that the transition into "Spread our codes to the stars" was the weakest moment in CP and Exo, I agree.
Intro to CP makes up infinitely for it though,
Muse's early stuff (99-02ish) has awful tempo and almost makes me cringe at times. This is mostly Matt's fault, rushing the hell out of intros.Yes! While the pacing on album OOS is good, live it sounds absolutely bizarre. The tracks on Hullabaloo just sound weird and empty because they're played so bloody quick. I thought I was the only one who thought this though.
Agree on the 'strongest album' comment as well, flow/pacing/sequencing on TR is very good for Muse, almost... Radiohead-like.
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Well, for me, the highlight of the song is "I WISH I COOOUUULD", and the way he just moans "Yeaah wish I cooouu-" live just ruins the entire song for me. It's especially bad on HAARP.
But apart from that, it's amazing
HAARP-SS is pretty average, I agree. But it's not the rule, thankfully.
It's especially bad on HAARP.
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I would sooner listen to OKC all the way through than OOS or Abso, because OKC doesn't have any painfully average tracks near the end which make me press skip - which OOS and Abso do.