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Well that's kind of the thing you need that atmosphere. For a band that's a one-hit-wonder you only have one staple so everything else is fair game. Muse clearly have way more songs they're expected to bring out and that people show up for.
On a technical level the singer said the band rehearsed 63 songs from the tour and they'll even do a cover song if they know it and like it. It's definitely not a small task to be able to handle that much dealer's choice.
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The days of endlessly arguing about setlists are in the past but worth noting I recently saw live, of all bands, Wheatus, and their entire set was by-request. There's always been comparisons to this band and that band regarding length and variety but I've never seen a band before walk on stage with no planned setlist at all. Obviously I don't think this could happen in anything but a small venue. But imagining Muse doing something like that for one of their smaller shows would be on another level than even SBE.
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Last post was at the end of the last tour which was a long time cause of the pandemic. So time for an update. New additions are in bold, except Will of the People songs cause they're all new.
Showbiz:
Sunburn
Showbiz
Origin of Symmetry:
New Born x4
Bliss x2
Plug In Baby x13
Citizen Erased x2
Feeling Good x2
Absolution:
Time Is Running Out x12
Stockholm Syndrome x4
Interlude x11
Hysteria x12
Butterflies & Hurricanes x2
Black Holes & Revelations:
Take a Bow x4
Starlight x13
Supermassive Black Hole x13
Map of the Problematique x2
Assassin (GOB)
Knights of Cydonia x13
The Resistance:
Uprising x12
Resistance x7
Undisclosed Desires x7
United States of Eurasia x4
Guiding Light
Unnatural Selection x2
MK Ultra
Exogenesis Pt. 1
The 2nd Law:
Supremacy
Madness x9
Panic Station
Prelude x6
Survival
Follow Me
Animals
Liquid State
The 2nd Law: Unsustainable x4
The 2nd Law: Isolated System x5
Drones:
Dead Inside x3
Psycho x8
Mercy x7
The Handler x2
[JFK] x3
Revolt x2
The Globalist x2
Drones x2 (x4?)
Simulation Theory
Algorithm x3
The Dark Side x4
Pressure x3
Propaganda x3
Break It To Me x3
Thought Contagion x4
Dig Down x2
Algorithm (alt. reality version) x3
Dig Down (acoustic gospel version) x3
Will of the People
Will of the People x2
Compliance x2
Liberation
Won't Stand Down x2
You Make Me Feel Like It's Halloween x2
Verona
Kill or Be Killed x2
We Are Fucking Fucked x2
Other
Nishe x2
Helsinki Jam x2
Montpelier Jam
Munich Jam x4
We Are The Universe
Stadium Sirens
Back In Black
New Kind of Kick
Houston Jam x2
Metal Medley (Stockholm, Assassin, Reapers (solo), The Handler, New Born, riffs) x3
The Gallery
Minimum
Behold, The Glove (full)
Only real interesting note here is that this is the first time since I started seeing them live that I was not at an Oracle Arena show.
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Would just like to say I respect that you're still here with the stats after all those years.
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Wasn't sure if I'd go to this tour but I'll be going with a friend to Stade de France. I am as always curious about what the shows and sets will be but also jaded as a long time fan that it will be very standard. At least I do legitimately like the new songs.
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At under 40 minutes I'm thinking about how I've been on this damn site for almost a decade seeing posts about the benefits of shorter records. I think those were from Clunge? And here they are with a quick and punchy record. I think I'd get tired if it was 50 minutes.
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I will also add, the first released tracks also were way more political. It gave the vibe this would be another Drones like song but about the past couple of years. I was also not that excited to hear 10 tracks of Matt going into his "meta-centrism". But the majority of the album ended up being more personal reflections and reactions to the modern times. And interestingly I think the politics of the album work out better because of it. Trying to balance mourning, love, fear, (literal) euphoria, and anger while it feels the world is falling apart? That just feels so much more apt to the times. So much more universal than an us-vs-them anthem.
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Didn't post about it here since I was busy but I'm... actually quite digging this album. I'm taking to it quicker than I did the last two. Like yeah it's got a lot of the "later Muse" thing with being overt with rather generic styles but getting past that I actually do like it. And let's face it if you're still here you're probably good at getting past that.
This is the first album since The Resistance where I found a lot of really loved tracks were not the ones released prior to release. Except Kill or Be Killed I suppose. I thought Won't Stand Down was fun but really was an excuse to do the big breakdown. The title track was alright and I never got into Compliance despite its nice bass line. Perhaps this is why I'm liking this album but I went into the whole listen with moderate expectations and ended up pleased.
Liberation is alright. I love the buildups but I do feel like it cut off before something interesting would have happened. But the harmonies at the end were nice enough.
Ghosts is where things started to surprise me. Having just Matt and a piano and singing about lost ones to the pandemic... as someone who did lose family it hit. While I don't think I'd rank it very highly among the "personal" Muse songs this is the first time in a very very long time I've heard something from this band that was both direct and sincerely emotional. No matter how much they try to portray themselves as a tongue-in-cheek band there was a lot of early catalogue songs that were legitimately honest. This one wasn't wrapping itself up in humor to make a point...
...Unlike the Halloween which totally does. I have some issue with how lightly they take domestic abuse, coming from a rich guy that I will assume did not suffer it at all during the confinement. But ok let's go besides that that this song is really fun. When Muse do actually go tongue-in-cheek I like it better when they don't try and hold back about it. It's what made The 2nd Law likable to me. Also the first of a few moments on this album where Matt actually shows off some more level of guitar skill. For once a Muse song I won't learn in like 5 minutes.
Verona was nice. I feel like it doesn't stay with me too much. But it's an interesting experimentation on the band's side. I know this forum especially wanted to see them try something more electronic and commit. This is sort of an example? Oddly enough I find the most unfitting part of the song to be Matt's vocals. Something about it feels off in the instrumentation which was very well crafted and delicate. Like a Public Service Broadcasting instrumental but M83 style.
The last two tracks are some real good shit. Euphoria is a straight up anime opening song which is a descriptor I never thought I'd use for a Muse song. It's short it's punchy it's catchy as hell it's got the falsetto ending. Fucking Fucked is like a shitpost song and I expected a shitpost song but I was not sure if I would like the shitpost song. Maybe the past couple of years have rendered me insane but I truly felt this track. It's also funnily the opposite of The Void. It's looking at the darkness of the world and instead of saying "we will always triumph over it" saying "lol".
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Just pointing out having gotten the files (since those are, in fact, fungible) that they are 96kHz flac.
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On 8/2/2022 at 9:13 AM, That Little Animal said:
People can explain them to me a million times, and I might finally grasp what NFTs are, but I’ll never understand why they exist or what purpose they serve.
With cryptocurrency having become one big volatile speculation market everything new that comes from it can be read as another way for people to get money off of it and anything else is intentional or self-convinced justification of the primary motive.
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I miss the golden age of this forum when people were active and tokens were fungible.
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13 hours ago, Clunge said:
Also, this is not Muse at their heaviest, whatever Matt says. The studio version is almost underwhelmingly unheavy.
What would you say is their heaviest?
I'm still partial to the studio versions of Dead Star and Ashamed, since a lot of the heavier BH&R and Resistance are weaker on record.
Also even if I may not be too into all the songs I do think parts of Drones captured their live jamming sound pretty well.
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I like it. The pre-chorus has a nice momentum and I'm glad the choruses on this album are moving away from the "repeat the name of the song a few times" thing they had going on in Simulation Theory (bar Compliance).
Does something almost sound live tracked here to anyone? At least the way Matt sings doing his little weird sounds that would normally just be on stage.
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Assassin and Bliss and the new songs, and apparently ending with Stockholm on a whim.
Not too bad. The first shows are always kinda short and simple.
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I like it. Like, there's not much else of a feeling other than "I like it". I'm gonna be pedantic cause this is the Muse board and all, but on like a personal level I was pleased with the song.
If I have a criticism it's the same one I had with Pressure. I like the parts. The verse is cool, the riff is heavy, the chorus is big and Muse-y even if nothing too mind-blowing. But I do wish there was something "more" to link them together if that makes sense? It just kind of jumps here and there. Not really a bridge or buildup. By the time the last chorus comes in I'm like "alright here's that part again".
I don't like saying things like "it should be a minute shorter" or "this part specifically should be changed" cause there's many ways a song can work, but I do wish there was [i]something[/i] for a bit more payoff, especially cause I do legitimately enjoy the song. I think of MK Ultra which is kinda similar in "vibes" as far as being a cool heavier song but maybe not my favorite one. It had the intro verse which glued the verses to the chorus. There was the slow section. And then also a more expanded breakdown to end it.
Again, pedantry. It's a cool piece and I like the general aesthetic we're going into for this album.
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On 11/25/2021 at 1:26 AM, Jobby said:
edit: as if that Algorithm Squad account is still vague posting like they’re ITK after all this time, people called them out within the first 2 weeks of existing
Algo Squad just really promotes their own community events so that's fine I guess.
I can see something early next year. Also they do have gigs lined up right? If those happen they're sure to play something new there. It's the kind of shows where they usually do. At least they used to. As if there's any sense of normalcy anymore.
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They've been pretty much on the cusp of releasing something for some time now it's just a long wait until it finally happens.
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I like the CE mix. It uses way more stereo field, it has a lot more guitar power in the riff which I never really liked with the keyboard, and the drums really punch more. Just a lot more clarity to the OoS mix. It does take some of the "spacey" feel the album is known for though. Notably through toning down the synths at the end but also by generally making it feel more like a live performance that sacrifices the interesting sonic character of the album. I like that both exist so I can get both takes.
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Still hesitant if things will be safe enough by then to host this (regardless of whether the government allows it). It's kind of a good time to make that bet though. The usual mantra of course, hopes but no expectations.
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They had really good timing on when to take a break. Even if they didn't plan on it I can't really imagine any big album hype during this year. Way too much going on.
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Finally watched it. It was actually a pretty enjoyable little cheesy movie. I enjoyed the rather ridiculous narrative to complement the actual snippets of narrative that I saw on the stage.
The editing, as far as the band shots were concerned, were fine. I didn't like the slow motion but for the most part it was straightfoward edits which is welcome after Rome's constant showing-off for a non-existent 4k release and Drones' need to make artificial shakes on every kick drum. It helps the stage design was just beautiful and a little color correcting makes the stage pop even more. Makes me regret even more we never got a film for the Resistance stadium tour. How might it have looked with the same filming...
The narrative intercuts during the songs were a hit or miss for me. Personally, I would have liked to just have seen the band play but I also knew this wasn't just a concert recording and was also finishing up their whole Simulation Theory narrative. When it was present but not too intrusive it was fine, like during Thought Contagion. Some other times I could have done with less of it. Maybe the biggest offender was during Supermassive Black Hole where there's a long panning shot of a CGI arcade machine with the actual footage you want to see in the display window, reduced to only 5% of the screen.
But anyways, the benefit of them playing (almost) the same show everywhere is that I can always go to the Rock in Rio or Argentina show recordings if I want no narrative.
I wish they didn't chop up the metal medley since it's a collection of chopped up songs already. It is mostly on digital release so I don't think a bit of extra time wouldn't hurt (same with Knights). The whole final showdown against Murph was good fun though. The whole conflict also created a wonderfully unintentionally comic moment after Take A Bow where the narrator asks something like "who will the challenger be" and it's Matt standing awkwardly in his light up suit. Like I was half hoping she'd say "nah, can't be this guy".
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I do hope they can do screenings again some later time. Doing this while the pandemic is still ongoing is not something I'm happy about.
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On 6/18/2020 at 1:20 PM, redchedda1337 said:
Enjoying that you are showing some FF love.
How is this thread nearly a decade old?
Honestly I'd probably opt for a simpler, cheaper fuzz if I were to start from scratch not influenced by the Muse, just because the Fuzz Factory is very hard to control. But, I have it, and it's still an excellent fuzz when you can dial it in. So I will keep showing it love.
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They have seemed a bit silent tbh. But also The past 3 albums have been pretty non-stop if you don't count the pandemic (which still had little bits of solo work).