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Surprise club gig before the 2017 festivals:
*Intro: Hans Zimmer - Little Ducks(from 'Crimson Tide')
1. New song
2. Plug in Baby
3. Unnatural Selection
4. Drum solo intro + Assassin
5. Futurism
*What's He Building in There*
6. New Born
7. TaB piano intro + Space Dementia
8. Darkshines
9. Exo-Politics
10. Hoodoo
11. Knights of Cydonia w/ abbey road solo + riff
*Encore 1*
12. Kaoss jam + SMBH
13. Reapers intro + Stockholm Syndrome + Vuilstamen riff
14. Micro Cuts outro riff + Agitated
*Encore 2*
15. Crowd request
16. Showbiz
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Space Dementia
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Assassin
Dead Star
Darkshines
Futurism would be epic, too
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And being intentionally cheesy doesn't make it better imo. Muse are at their best when they take themselves seriously.
I mean, I like that, too, but they can do fun stuff too. Say what you want, but they clearly had a blast making Panic Station and I love it.
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Personally I think that The Handler is great, Reapers and Dead Inside are good, and the rest of the album is....decent to awful. For me, the album is dragged down by Revolt, Mercy, The Globalist and Aftermath. A pretty big chunk of the album.
What's the thing with people disliking Psycho so much? I mean, yeah, sure, it's cheesy and all that, but at least it was intentionally cheesy and funny. I really dig it.
And I mean, full breakdown of Drones:
Great: The Handler and Reapers
Good: Psycho, Dead Inside and Mercy
Decent: The Globalist and Defector
Bad: Revolt and Aftermath
Wtf: Drones
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You know you don't HAVE to pick any of it, right? You don't need to stick to music that you think is decent. Just...listen to something else. We're not voting for a new president.
I mean, overall Drones is decent. But that's because it's dragged down by few really bad songs. It's not necessarily a bad thing to be decent, I mean come on, Handler, Psycho, Defector and Reapers are actually really good imo.
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Maybe they didn't even make it that far
I like how you defend Drones by saying it's decent. Gotta love those decent records.I'll take decent over straight up garbage any day
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Well, if nothing else, I find it kinda hilarious how everyone picks on my opinions about Origin, while I have way weirder opinions compared to the majority when it comes to TR/T2L/Drones.
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In Your World was written after the album was released.
But yeah there are plenty to choose from. Futurism, Shrinking Universe or Hyper Chondriac Music (including them both on the album would work imo) would be my suggestions.
Again, DS/IYW was out just a tiny bit over a year a after Origin, so, I mean... IYW could've been a leftover like Futurism.
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Would you really rather have a pointless riff that ruins the flow of the record? The beauty of OOS is its diversity in tone and instrumentation
The point is, I'm not a fan of Screenager. I'd take just basically another song, say, maybe In Your World? I don't know. It doesn't necessarily have to be Yes Please or Agitated, just something else.
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Yes Please and Agitated are just decent riffs. They're awful compared to Screenager and Megalomania.
Meh, I'll give you Megalomania. Never been a fan of Screenager tho.
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I'm usually against saying this, but I really don't get what people see in Yes Please and Agitated.
Raw, crazy, riff-heavy pure energy? Turned into a mad scramble of a song.
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You rate Agitated and Yes Please higher than Screenager and Megalomania? Not saying that the former two are in any means bad, but the latter pair are so much better imo.
Not to mention that Agitated and Yes Please were both Showbiz era b-sides anyway.
Yes, I do think they're better. And talking of Showbiz and OoS 'eras' is kinda silly imo, because they were released under 2 years apart anyway
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Showbiz
Good: Raw, young, energetic and Muse still being very personal. No political themes. Chris was amazing on this album, which has some of the more underrated bass tracks and tones he's had.
Bad: Well, the whole list I put up in the good-section. Raw, young and energetic can be a bad thing, which lead to some songs being mediocre, silly or just straight up cringy. Also, Matt's voice is just... uhh. It's great for a few songs but a whole album is a bit much.
Origin of Symmetry
Good: Tracks 1-7 are all in top-20 Muse songs. Darkshines, too. My three personal favorites are all on Origin, them being SD, MC and CE. Matt's vocals are much stronger, still somewhat raw but already much better than on Showbiz. 2nd best album for bass. The amazing, crushing tone of Human Gear Animato dominating so many tracks. The filter on PiB(which has been cracked by no covers I've managed to find btw), just so good!
Bad: Screenager, Megalomania and Feeling Good being on the album instead, of, oh, I don't know, Futurism, Yes Please and Agitated? Matt's guitar tones are very weak and overall the worst album for guitar in Muse discography. Drum tones are a bit questionable in some songs, too.
Absolution
Good: Epic, yet not forced. massive compositions and sounds. Basically no bad songs. Matt's guitar getting better. Best album for bass, just, wow! Hysteria, TIRO, AP, so much good stuff!
Bad: The composition goes a bit over the top at some parts, maybe Matt trying to be a little bit too epic. The production is a mess at some points, terrible mixing and mastering. The track listing is a complete disaster. Some songs getting overplayed over the years, mostly SS and TIRO. Fury not being on the album.
Black Holes and Revelations
Good: Absolutely stunning opener and closer, both perfect for their roles. TaB immidieately shows all the cards on the side of 'we can be electronic, too', while Knights is just a perfect closer with the whole album basically being buildup to it. Electronic components used perfectly. Matt's voice is possibly the strongest on BHaR.
Bad: Possibly the worst production quality of all Muse albums. Soldier's Poem suffers from it's position in the track listing. 'Glorious should've been on the album instead of SP' is a fully valid argument. Starlight and SMBH being played too much live, to the point where they've become memes.
The Resistance
Good: Great improvements on production quality. Exogenesis, Uprising, Resistance, MKU, IBtY and Unnatural Selection are all great songs, no matter how hard some of them get crap. UD is far from being the worst Muse song. Matt's voice is still very good.
Bad: Uprising and UD becoming overplayed live, while MKU, US and IBTY have died off despite being great live songs. Basstones and lines are getting much more boring. IBTY is a nice one for bass, but that's basically it. Track listing is a big fucking mess. WATU not being the album intro.
The 2nd Law
Good: Great production quality. A lot of good songs which fans give no credit. Supremacy, Survival, Big Freeze, Liquid State, Animals, Panic Station, Isolated System and hell, I'll go as far as to say Unsustainable, are all good or great songs. Supremacy is one of the better album(and setlist) openers they've had.
Bad: Ohh boy, Madness. I actually think it's a decent song, but boy do I get bored when they play it live. Basically the same level of a mood killer as Feeling Good. Follow Me and Explorers are forgettable, I don't even remember how Explorers goes because I almost always skip it nowadays. I guess I got bored of it or something? Anyway, Save Me isn't exactly a great one either. While Chris, I think, did a decent job on both vocals and composing LS, SM wen't a bit too far.Wouldn't be against Chris composing even more stuff if it's somewhat the same style as LS. T2L also suffers of the same symptom as almost all Muse albums, track listing is a big fucking mess. The lyrics are also just pure cringe at some points. T2L is such a polarizing album, it's music is actually very good or at least decent in nearly every point, but come on, Matt, you're a better lyric writer than that. Big Freeze, Animals and Follow Me especially, justt... wow.
Drones
Good: Just like T2L, gets way more crap from the fans than it should. Dead Inside, Psycho, Reapers, Mercy, Defector, The Globalist and Drones are all at least decent. Production quality is very good. Guitar, bass and drums all have good tones.
Bad: Dead Inside is another live mood killer. I'm not even going to go into detail why I dislike most of the lyrics on Drones, because we all probably agree on that. Two playback/intro/whateverthehell on the same album is kinda stupid, too. I think Drill Sergeant is actually fine, it's so short, it's funny and it gets crowd pumped a bit. JFK on the other hand... uhh, it really just seems like a filler, both for the album and live sets, being almost a minute long. Lazy. Also, Revolt and Aftermath... holy fuck, just... please, no more of that crap.
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Imagine the Muse set of 'forgotten' tracks (loosely or soon-to-be) - Citizen Erased, Apocalyse Please, Take A Bow, Supremacy, Reapers, The Handler.
.Uhh, how are those 'forgotten' tracks? And, like, don't ever count CE to be 'soon-to-be-forgotten', it's been proven many times that the guys seem to like the song and keep bringing it back when people assume it dies off
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Club set; Fun, acoustic, piano, craziness, etc.
1. *Club tour intro*
2. Panic Station
3. SMBH
4. Exo-Politics
5. Fillip
6. Helsinki Jam
7. Stockholm Syndrome + riff
8. Agitated
9. Yes Please
10. JFK + Defector
11. In Your World
12. Prelude + Survival(guitar solo replaced with piano)
13. TaB piano intro + Space Dementia + Extended outro + riff
14. Butterflies and Hurricanes(acoustic)
15. City of Delusion(acoustic)
16. Hysteria(acoustic, Chris plays the bassline on double bass)
17. I Belong to You
18. Darkshines
19. Futurism
20. Dead Star
21. Micro Cuts
22. Showbiz
23. Bliss w/Hullaballoons + Extended outro + chaos + destruction + Matt destroys another innocent Marshall cab + drumset destruction
A bit long for a club set, but hell, one can always dream, right?
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I think it works a lot better in a live environment, or at least the one I saw it at.
It does. Seen it live twice. Tbh, it works the best at festivals, was kinda meh to alright in an arena, but in a summer evening in a festival it's actually really good. A more of a chill moment before the finale of the set.
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Okay, if you want controversy:
I think Mercy is alright. Maybe even above average. Decent, not good or great.
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Meh, the most complex thing about COD live is bringing an electro-acoustic on tour and playing the trumpet solo on guitar if Dan (or another trumpet man) ain't available. Hence why I actually have hope for requesting it if this new song involves him bringing an acoustic The strings were only a backing track tmk and the individual parts (guitar, bass, drums) are pretty simple.
It was the "COD's maybe not that great live but Exo is quality!" sentiment that I took issue with
Well I mean, parts of it are played on electro-acoustic, parts on electric and then there's the thing with the bass tone, I'm not sure if Chris's current rig could even produce acceptable filter tone for CoD, it's so muddy compared to what he used to have lmao
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I was gonna give a genuine reply but then I read this bit
If you mean CoD, think of how complex it is. It can be kinda difficult and annoying to play live.
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A bit random, but has there ever really been any comment why CoD and EP were played so little before dying off? I can sure understand CoD, it's maybe not the best song for live, but EP? It's such a great base for a live song, basically a stadium stomp with the massive tom comp.
Like this, just, mmh! If one song should get the whole arena jumping, it'd be EP!
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Nah, in all seriousness, I get the idea of wanting them to take a break but I think a club tour would be different. It'd be relatively short so it wouldn't tire them out or give them much chance to get jaded and we know that they've actively been wanting to do another one since the Psycho Tour. I can only see it being dead fun, 'specially 'cos they'd be going into it with a better idea of what fans want so there'd be less "oops can't remember that" this time.
You know I meant a larger-scale tour
If they want to do a 10-30 gig club tour, that's just fine. A 'tour' is 100+ gigs imo, club tour is usually just for the lols even for the artist -
They probably don't have any.
Well considering many bands have easily hunderds of riff/song 'base ideas' for each album, I wouldn't be surprised if they've had the inspiration to build a few of those to complete songs. As an example, I think Kirk Hammet of Metallica said he alone had over 300 riff ideas for 'Hardwired'.
Even I have dozens of ideas stored and come up with new ones every day, I think it's possible they've got few in store
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Muse are jamming or recording or whatever in a studio! How long will it take until we get to hear something new? March/anytime in spring/ or shortly before Reading/Leeds?
I really hope it's just a single. 1-3 new songs or 1-2 new songs + a remix or live recording and that's it. Would be very happy with that instead of, I don't know, them rushing a new album or tour?
Anyway, like I said, couple of new songs would be fantastic and well enough for this year imo.
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I really hope it's a single, with one or two new songs and a remix or a live version of something old. And what I sure as hell don't want it to be is a tour or recording starting for a new album.
What was even the last single they released that wasn't part of an album? NSC? Or does that even count? The last before that was DS/IYW, right?
I'd be so happy if it was just couple leftover songs from Drones/T2L/TR. Record those, let that be just a little sweet surprise for the fans this year and take a good, long break with only few gigs here and there. Please. Don't rush a new album or tour. We can wait.
I like how you defend Drones by saying it's decent. Gotta love those decent records.
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The strings were only a backing track tmk and the individual parts (guitar, bass, drums) are pretty simple.
Which Muse song have you recently discovered or rediscovered the awesomeness of?
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I mean, at least the music is good and fun to play, Revolt fails even on that...