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    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    I believe it was in The Handler's spot before they started playing that. It was dropped as a staple around that time iirc. Which is a shame, because it did sound amazing at Pinkpop last summer! They've actually played it at every gig I've been to (apart from last month's gig at the Ziggo Dome) and last summer's was by far the best!

     

    Ahh, that makes sense, at least kind of...

     

    Sounds like it was awesome last year :happy:

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Think Matt just got more and more bored of it after the Black Holes tour. T'was brilliant at Download last year though.

     

    Hm, maybe. But during the (few) performances last year they looked like they were having fun. Download, Pinkpop... I'd be cool with it, if they'd play it rarely to keep it fresh and fun, but it just disappeared :(

     

    Maybe it'll appear at one of these London gigs

     

    Yes please (pun not intended)

     

    Hadn't thought about that. As great as it was last year, I wouldn't want it to be one of the very few (if any) rarities we get in London, I'd rather that went to something I haven't seen 3 times :chuckle: If it was rotated in for CE or Stockholm though then sure.

     

    Ideally, Stockholm would've stayed a staple this tour with New Born occasionally swapped in. That way nobody could be missing out on a major rarity. Then again we kinda have a Stockholm/Hysteria rotation going on lately, could put NB in there with the same result, provided they wouldn't play a rarity in that slot at some point. Personally, I've only seen it once, and that was the T2L version, and I'd take the 2015 version over certain rarities, for instance Sunburn, which I've seen twice last tour and hasn't really changed this tour.

    2016.04.14 - O2 Arena, London, England

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    I'm in London on business and found a cheap ticket. Is it Phantogram supporting?

     

    Yep.

     

    Not long until this gig anymore :D. I'm also really looking forward to seeing London again, it's been a while. Actually since my last Muse gigs there . Good Memories :happy:

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    I actually jokingly said "Go on, Matt. Execution Commentary." when Township finished 'cause I'd never seen it, laughed my arse off in disbelief when it actually started :LOL:

     

    As for CE - yeah, performance lacked beef imo and I was already a bit bored after Starlight so I guess that didn't help. At this point for me, it's essentially just like getting any other song you've seen a few times and aren't that into over something you've wanted for ages (Apocalypse/Sunburn), except that song goes on for 7-8 minutes :chuckle: Oh, and the pause before the second riff is horrid :vomit: He's definitely doing it for dramatic effect, if anyone was wondering, 'cause when he stopped he sort of beckoned towards the crowd for cheers or sutin (it didn't really work).

     

    It's better than Feeling Good and maybe Eurasia but I guess I just generally find most of it pretty dull live, unless it's sandwiched by stuff I like. It can have good performances though and the crowd was clearly into it so I'm not gonna say it shouldn't be played.

     

    Cheers for the explanation. That pause really does seem weird. Though there were gigs without it, or at least one. Iirc, according to ryan he didn't do it in Dublin. Anyway, I hope it'll pop up when I'm in London, so sorry about that in advance :LOL:.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Forgot to say, obvs wasn't expecting Stockholm so early so when Matt started teasing some drop D riffage a little part of me freaked out that it might be Assassin (as awful as that'd be for Belfast). Stockholm was top as always though.

     

    Also Township > Execution Commentary > Endless Nameless was bllhbrecbkvcrtv

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMt25EyL--A

     

    Dat Riffage :facemelt:

     

    Oh, and just out of curiosity, you said the gig nosedived after SMBH. Was CE not able to stand out at all for you? I know you're not the biggest CE fan, but yea, I'm curious.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Glad to hear so many positive reviews on the gig yesterday, really helps my hype after that Belfast-Depression. And also very good news on the crowd. I checked some videos and there's really quite a visible difference. Definitely looks like one of the best crowds of the 360-tour so far. I'm seriously hoping the upcoming London gigs will be similar, as personally I'm quite dependent on a jumpy crowd in order to fully enjoy the gig.

     

    Kinda random but I remember in Dublin after Starlight Matt went in to the end of the stage to collect his guitar for the next song and came out with the 7-string for CE and he just looked so damn happy.

     

    :awesome:

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    I know it's Matt we're talking about but I don't think even he's daft enough to think 'next time' means 2 gigs later in another country. Plus there's the whole thing of Chris telling a fan it'd be played, though I guess we don't have confirmation on that. Even if he did, maybe it's just 'not up to him' like it was with Tom.

     

    I find it hard to buy the whole 'they just don't care' thing as well considering they've been pretty good with stuff like this since the start of the T2L Tour, with only the odd exception here and there. This consistent cancelling/backing out of stuff seemed to start along with the world tour.

     

    I was just about to ask whether that Chris thing has been confirmed. If it has, then that + them apparently having soundchecked it a couple of times on the tour + the song not really being vocally challenging, which would give Matt a reason to veto last second if he wasn't feeling well = really leaves me baffled about last night.

     

    And I agree with what you're saying about 'they don't care'. MM in South America being a prime example and a very similar case to Assassin.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Stockholm then. Only thing I can think is if Assassin somehow replaces TAB in the encore.

     

    Most likely just another promise/request cancelled though.

     

    There's actually no more room for the TaB slot, since they played Resistance earlier on... :stunned:

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Didn't Chris say that they were gonna play Assassin in Belfast?

     

    Yup.

     

    Not that many spots left for Assassin to show up. I suppose Resistance has been swapped in for either TaB or Map, so Assassin could still be rotated in for either of those, or be played in the post-JFK slot.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Also, from a bands point of view, If I was up on the stage playing a song like 'Plug in Baby' and about 80% of my audience was just standing there, It would be a bit disheartening... or maybe that's just me.

     

    Yea, but at least the band themselves have acknowledged in some interview that the stage is the reason why the crowds are less energetic. So they pretty much know they brought that on themselves.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Good set there yesterday. Thanks for the reviews, good to hear his singing was better. And congrats on the drumstick ;).

     

    Ikr

     

    Also there was no Dance of the Knights before Drones.

     

    This makes me sad though :(. I was really looking forward to that, hope they get it back.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    According to people who were at the football game tonight, Chris and Glen said Assassin is being played at Belfast.

     

    :awesome:. I'm pretty sure that if it does happen in Belfast, it'll also pop up in London.

     

    UK press reviews:

    4/5 in the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/muse-rocked-the-o2---but-will-glastonbury-want-more---review/

    4/5 in the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/04/muse-review-o2-arena-london

    4/5 in the Evening Standard: http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/music/muse-tour-review-thrilling-theatrical-and-technically-flawless-a3217281.html

    5/5 in the Independent: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/muse-o2-arena-london-gig-review-a-jaw-dropping-extravaganza-a6967291.html

     

    Seems to be getting good reviews, although the Telegraph do highlight from the bat the "over-ambitious" stage and "lackluster crowd". They were way more positive about the Electric Ballroom gig.

     

    The Telegraph review even includes the stage problem discussed on here in a nutshell :):

     

    Although the audience were able to get close to the jagged stage, they were split into rows just 10 deep in many places. Rather than everyone being swept along in a sense of collective delirium, pockets of die-hard fans wound up moshing alongside people intent on standing still.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    Posted · Edited by fam201

    Muse write a lot of pop music. That you only think of One Direction when you hear pop says more about you than anything else. The Beatles, ABBA, Elton John, Prince, Michael Jackson are all pop (some with rock influences ofc. And The Beatles did a lot more than just pop)

     

    Hehe, I probably should've phrased that one more careful, or not tried to argue at all: On the one side, I'm aware that Muse write a lot of pop music and that the definition of pop is very broad. However, I'm sometimes a bit weird with genres (hence the "over-sensitive"), and so when I stumbled upon "pop band" my brain somehow immediately associated it with such a band as the one I named (even though by definition that's wrong) and thus I started the argument. So yea, for some reason "pop band" has a negative connotation in my brain, that's about all that it's saying about me.

     

    And you're missing the point. Yes their live shows are promotion, that's basically what Muse have been most known for...in the past. But since the start of this tour, Muse have been complaining about how they have to play just the pop songs or else the crowds will get bored. Sadly they only have themselves to blame, considering they've been, like Serpent says, almost only promoting pop songs since 2006. When you get famous for songs like Supermassive Black Hole, Neutron Star Collision, Starlight, Madness, Undisclosed Desires, Mercy and Dead Inside, then that's what people will expect when going to your gigs.

     

    I think that is mainly restricted to America though, isn't it (I mean them complaining about having to play just the pop songs)? I wasn't sure whether Serpent was commenting on the US only, or everywhere. If this was her point and it was considering the US, then I guess I agree.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    They've been pushing pop singles to the radio since '06, and it's gotten more prominent with each album.

    Reapers was a fluke, and never meant to be released.

     

    Isn't it fairly constant since The Resistance? Anyway, I get what you're saying, maybe I'm just being over-sensitive about the term "pop band". It just kinda feels like we're talking about One Direction or something, and even though Muse' latest singles have mainly been promoting their poppier side, neither those singles, nor their albums or their gigs represent something like that. Apart from that, I think what they're promoting themselves as isn't all down to what singles they release, but it's also about the their gigs for example.

    Drones General Tour Discussion Thread

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    And don't forget that Muse has been promoting themselves as a "live spectacle" and a pop band for the better part of a decade.

    If people don't think the type of crowd that attracts is going to change, they're the naïve ones.

     

    Live spectacle yes, but pop band? Sure, they've had some big pop-rock hits, but I don't think they're promoting themselves as a pop band and stuff like yesterday doesn't seem like that either. And yes, the crowds attracted changed a bit, but, in reference to what Clunge said, with a normal end stage you could still count on the front being energetic, and it would indeed be naive to expect something different (talking about Europe here). As said before, it's only this stage which is making it harder for the energetic parts of the crowd to find each other.

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