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Dave.

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  1. I actually dated a guy who was into a lot of metal that was a bit, too far, for me - for about six months.

    His circle of friends and the places he hung out drove us apart. So, I mean, I'm basing it on more than just Download festival. And throwing bottles.

    It certainly wasn't everyone, but I met with a lot of glorified violence and sexism that was either encouraged, or ignored, and it made me sad that a vocal minority ruined it for a lot of others.

     

    You can pull up videos of different acts at Download for instance, it's not just a couple of isolated people doing it.

    Humans have such a mob mentality sometimes. :noey:

    You try finding a nice venue to play where everyone assumes you throw piss everywhere.

     

    I've first hand seen people thrown out of venues for harassing women and being overly aggressive in pits. I was once headbutted by a guy in a pit (turned out it was his first gig), some guts helped me up, made sure I was ok (even checking my eyes with a light), took the guy out of the pit and explained that he went too far. I met him afterwards and he apologised.

     

    I can bring up videos showing that this isn't isolated people being nice metal shows.

  2. I didn't want to bring rap into it, for obvious reasons.

     

    But, if you read my original post, my point was that the assholes who ARE violent give the entire "culture" a bad rep.

    Having an accepted tradition of throwing bottles of piss at people makes a "sweeping statement" to the world, and implies those individuals WANT the culture to be viewed that way.

    What reasons?

     

    I've never met a single person whose condoned piss bottle throwing. I feel you're taking an extreme circumstance and applying it across the board.

  3. Bottling and other types of aggressive behaviors are a little more common with "cultures" like the metal heads, though, which is my big problem.

    You've got this gross, "uber-male" mentality that goes beyond elitism and into violence.

     

    People who think hurting innocent people is not only acceptable, but funny/impressive.

     

    :LOL: By no means is that exclusive to metal.

    Mods vs Rockers

    1970s Punks

    1990s Gangsta Rap wars

    1930s Delta Blues

    It was present within classical music.

     

    All you're doing here is grouping an entire fanbase of a massive genre into one, small box. It's ignorant and insulting. The thing about sweeping statements is all they do is spread shit.

  4. There's been more than 3 before this

     

    Osaka Jam

    Helsinki Jam

    Montpellier Jam

    and MK jam

     

    To my knowledge

    Ah yes. Forgot about those. But they reenforce the trend of naming it after the city it debuted in.

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