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Might be controversial to say but I actually don't mind people filming and taking pictures. Hell, I've done it a few times. Not for a whole gig, obviously, but quick pictures or filming half a song here or there. Obviously there's the whole "official photos/pro-shots do it better than you" thing (which there's no guarantee of with Muse tbf) but sometimes I find it nice to look back at my own stuff so I can remember exactly what it was like from my perspective.
When I went to see Jack White, some guy came on-stage beforehand and told everyone to actively put their phones away and it didn't seem to totally sit right with a lot of people, even if they weren't planning on filming. People just seemed a bit iffy on effectively being told how to enjoy the gig. Idk, just came across a tiny bit elitist/pretentious, but that's Jack White for you tbf
Where I draw the line is when it starts actively impacting other people's fun i.e. complaining about people bumping into you/telling people to stand still or move so you can record better (what do you expect?) or holding up something ridiculous like a bloody iPad and blocking everyone's view (I've actually seen this). If you're keeping to yourself though, I've got no problem with it.
just my 2p
Maybe it's gig maturity? I used to film stuff when decent camera phones first became available but quickly realised that a) the quality isn't great even on latest phones; b) you don't take it in watching via a screen; and c) no one really cares
I saw Public Service Broadcasting last year and they opened the gig with a service announcement about 'Jimmy' who used his phone to record songs and put them on facebook and no one liked them, everyone in the gig hated him, his parents were disappointed in him for spending all day watching facebook waiting for a like etc...It was quite amusing
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Regarding Futurism, I seem to remember one of them saying that they tried rehearsing it but that it sounded terrible so they dropped the idea. Could be totally making that up though. I remember people being disappointed because Chris(?) heavily hinted towards Dead Star on Twitter shortly before the gig as well, which obviously didn't end up happening.
Glorious or no Glorious though, it'd be BH&R in full and the official end of my fragile soul </3
Yeah, I really hope it isn't Glastonbury, if anything other than it just being a pain in the arse to get in to. I mean, I'd find a way but I'd just prefer something else, plus a lot of other people who would love to see it would be fucked off (even moreso than if it was a standard gig). Doubt it will be though, like I said it just makes too little sense imo.
That said, I massively doubt it'd be a stadium gig either and I'd be surprised by a full on arena gig as well tbh, unless they work it into one of the ones they're already playing. Wouldn't really make sense to use a 'Drones World Tour' gig for a BH&R anniversary though, 'specially with all the concept shit and whatnot. I reckon it'll be a theatre or festival-that-isn't-Glasto job.
Wherever it is, I hope to Christ they announce it beforehand (preferably with reasonable time) and don't spring it as a surprise. I'd be genuinely devastated if it happened and I wasn't there.
kids I'm so perhaps unwisely excited you don't know
If they were to do it I guess it would be a one-off gig in an open air venue like Knebworth or something like that? Or the Olypmic Stadium in London so we can all trash it before West Ham move in
Or they can play Nottingham and Wembley Arenas again like 2006
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Pretty solid possibility of BH&R in full, eh?
Are they playing Nottingham Arena again? We never got Bliss
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Aftermath is horrible...allegedly.
Oh wait that only works for UK libel laws...
The pattern from previous tours is for the European leg to be 1 song longer than the US. So what will it be? Anyone thought of making a poll?
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Aftermath would be horrible live and still not stuck on Revolt.
Defector is average, I guess it'll pop up soon though.
I don't enjoy playbacks, seen Muse, Chemical Brothers and QOTSA do it and prefered the more conventional gigs
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Yeah, Muse is not like: "Oh, we are gonna play all those poppy songs because FUCK MURICA" they are like: "Oh, we are gonna play all those poppy songs because they seem to be really popular here"
Depends also on how long the sets are in Europe, if all the props work, how the visuals are.
If Europe gets the better Canadian sets as the baseline with a few different rotations then I see your point.
If however Europe gets a longer set consistently with more things seemingly done off-the-cuff then it's possible that US fans could feel a bit aggrieved.
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It was me who said it was bad The outro is awesome though, and if Showbiz returns, then there is a chance of it being an outro. Also, i do not think Muse particularly like the song, seeing as it was only played 8 times during the Showbiz gigs.
It's not particularly bad, it's nowhere near my favourite song or anything I'm desperate to see live, nor does it seem to have a cult following that songs like Assassin, Fury etc seem to have. The entire song is quite fun to play on bass though
I've already seen everything on the poll so I really wouldn't care what stuff is played, other than adding a few songs to sort out the pop-rock balance and minimise those annoying 3-minute breaks between songs
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The polls are a good idea. If anybody has a problem with a shite Showbiz b-side not being on the list, despite a song which typically has the Ashamed outro ( the best part of that B-side tbh) after it being near the top of the list, then I have no words.
Sometimes the genuine comments on the shortness and pop-heavy slant of the setlist does actually turn into the caricature 'the hardcore fans just want songs that are rare rather than good'.
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After three shows I'd seen:
Forced In
The Groove
Muscle Museum
Showbiz
Space Dementia
Citizen Erased
Apocalypse Please
Sing For Absolution
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Ruled by Secrecy
Take a Bow
Map of the Problematique
Assassin
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Muse are so ageist!
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Realistically for the Drones Tour:
Psycho
Dead Inside
Hysteria
Isolated System
Plug In Baby
Resistance
Guiding Light
Supermassive Black Hole
Prelude + Starlight
Explorers
Feeling Good
Aftermath
Madness
Undisclosed Desires
JFK + Revolt
Time is Running Out
Uprising
The Globalist
Mercy
Knights of Cydonia
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This is essentially why when I made a similar list I gave the option of voting for every song, even if that slightly defeats the purpose of rarities. If you limit it you're gonna be stuck with "what gives you the right to choose the songs" etc
Go to setlist.fm, search Muse, click 'Drones World Tour' and maybe ignore the top 20 most played songs. Then make a list of the remaining songs they've at least played in the last 5 years or something?
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Why would anyone pick Ashamed as the song to get Muse to play though?
People who want to hear stuff because it's 'rare' over it being 'good'.
The best part of Ashamed is the outro riff and they used to play that a lot after New Born anyway
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Wembley night 2 had them all I think.
No New Born
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Wembley 2010 Night 2 + New Stuff:
[intro]
Psycho
Uprising
Supermassive Black Hole
The Handler
Map of the Problematique
Bliss
Dead Inside
Hysteria
Citizen Erased
United States of Eurasia
Ruled By Secrecy
Animals
Starlight
JFK + Defector
Time Is Running Out
Reapers
The Globalist
Stockholm Syndrome
Mercy
Plug In Baby
Knights of Cydonia
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I would be very happy to get this to be honest. Throw in maybe 1 more piano song like Sunburn or United States of Eurasia and Stockholm Syndrome and it would be fantastic.
I could see extra piano song + moving Starlight to after the piano section (so Prelude actually sort of makes sense); removing UD or Madness; putting Stockholm before the Globalist and then bringing in Defector to start the European Tour. Then the set evolves throughout the dates perhaps. By the end they'll be playing early festival tour stuff again like New Born/Animals/Micro Cuts/Uno/Supremacy (not at every gig of course).
On setlist.fm it lists Reapers as having the RATM Freedom outro... are we sure that they didn't mishear or did they actually do Reapers + Freedom riff?Be a bit redundant if they did, no?
They sound so similar I'd think someone who wasn't so familiar with the album just thought the outro was a riff.
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I live in a small town and we don't even get decent reception for one modern rock station. There was one that played Muse regularly around for a while but they switched formats. Now the only chance I would ever have of hearing Muse on the radio would be the top 40 station. There's no chance that I would listen to that station for the off chance of hearing Madness or Mercy once in a while. I imagine that much of the US outside the big cities is much the same.
Herein lies the problem. Those that hear Mercy or Madness once in a while and have more money than sense go to the gigs expecting Top 40 songs...
Whereas old Muse fans tolerate the pop but would prefer to Rock.
I suggest a battle royal before the gig starts. Losers have to sit through winners setlist
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biggest closet fanbase ever. like in terms of how much they proliferate social media, tv and radio and sales is not correlating with the sheer amounts of live tickets they sell.
strange phenomenon!
"Seen them already, new song isn't that good, can't be bothered to pay that much/travel that far"
Muse are on tour all the time. People get bored.
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Just one of these days, I'd like Muse to crack 2 hrs. In the U.S. Consistently. Is that too much to ask??? lol
They could add in loads of jams and take forever between songs. That's how they stretched 18 songs to fill 2 hours in London in 2009
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Add two from Map, Bliss, Plug In Baby into the slots between Psycho and Dead Inside, put Madness and UD on rotation, replace Resistance with another piano song and add in Defector (or Stockholm ideally) then it would be about right.
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Interesting idea. Seeing as SS is being dropped more often, then it could be a viable alternative that keeps fans interested and moshing. Or at least those familiar with the material, which judging by US crowds, is probably about 6 people in the wrong corner of that sodding revolving stage.
I saw both at Reading. That was grand. Then didn't see SS for 4 years afterwards... always half-speed New Born with Morgan doing the intro when the roulettes span.
Them playing both in the same set must have only happened 5 or 6 times? There was one gig on the Abso Tour where Hyper Music was played, Reading/Leeds, a few Psycho Tour shows and then the random appearances of Hyper Music in 2013?
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Well, he'd need to swap guitars either way so it'd work pretty much the same. As for Agitated, it depends on the venue I suppose. Could work well as a main set closer at a small club-ish venue but I kinda look at it as playing the same role as a riff tbh, so I'd still rather have something other than Hyper Music there personally.
Knights + SD outro > Hyper Music would be a good way to open a gig though.
I know Hyper Music + Agitated was the main set closer on Hullabaloo. Would imagine that could work.Stockholm remains my favourite Muse closer. They could do Hyper Music into the Stockholm riff from 2002 then Agitated as an outro to Stockholm...
This is pure speculation thoguh as it'll never happen, I'm just glad to have seen both Stockholm and Hyper Music in the same set
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'You're the real fans, we can tell'. Matthew Bellamy September 11th 2010
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If people going to their shows don't know album material, then maybe you're playing to the wrong fucking audience.
It was only like seven years ago where the entire crowd was a mosh pit, knowing every world to every song going fucking mental over Sing For Absolution, then one particular album released and the focus shifted. This isn't a coincidence and I wish they'd recognize this.
Also look at that video, 10 of you know it, so let's go to the corners that are completely dead for the cool vocals and guitar riffs. What the fuck.
I still fail to see who would pay astonishing amounts of money to see a band you know very little about. Unless its daytripper, 'get me a selfie and a video to put on facebook' kind of deal. Can't wait to watch Madness on someone else's ipad screen...
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Sure i've done that too but those gigs are relatively cheap... Muse tickets are pretty expensive.
Exactly. Been to a few gigs where i've known a few songs, for about £10 though.
Muse are £75 for standing though, surely you'd need to know quite a few songs to justify that
The outro is awesome though, and if Showbiz returns, then there is a chance of it being an outro. Also, i do not think Muse particularly like the song, seeing as it was only played 8 times during the Showbiz gigs.
Your Perfect Muse Setlist
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Posted · Edited by Mozza
BHaR Tour Night 1:
Take a Bow
Reapers
The Handler
Map of the Problematique
Supremacy
City of Delusion
Hysteria
Forced In
Bliss
United States of Eurasia
Soldiers Poem
Hoodoo
Invincible
Dead Inside
Uprising
Supermassive Black Hole
Starlight
Time Is Running Out
Survival
Citizen Erased
Sunburn
Knights of Cydonia
Night 2:
BHaR Tour Night 1:
Knights of Cydonia
Psycho
New Born
Assassin
Plug In Baby
Starlight
Map of the Problematique
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Hoodoo
Apocalypse Please
Cave (2009 version)
Madness
Invincible
Uprising
Exo-Politics
Supermassive Black Hole
Mercy
Time Is Running Out
Unnatural Selection
Muscle Museum
Stockholm Syndrome
Take a Bow