TheHappySpaceman
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JFK.... if Defector's happening, it's got to be now...
Bet it'll just be Revolt.
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Quoting this, unfortunately...
If you count semi-piano songs like The Globalist and Citizen Erased, then they technically played three when I saw them.
On another note, the stream has died for me again.
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Eurasia, as if playing DI as the second song wasn't punishment enough.
Hey!
...I like USOE.
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The stream isn't working for me, guys.
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Plug In Babe: Pig In The City
Ah, good ol' Matt, teasing the audience with the intro.
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*CP intro starts*
OMG CROSS POLLINATION
*Feeling Good actually starts*
Nah, it would have to be in the same key, or a similar one. So since the intro ends in C... then Explorers? Also,
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Eh, not to me. Matt always said he was afraid to play Cross-Pol and they probably thought there wasn't much of a demand for the whole thing, especially after TR Tour.
Personally, I don't think there's ever been much of a place for it in setlists. Audiences are already struggling to stay engaged for The Globalist, which is about 2/3 minutes shorter and has a heavy riff section in the middle. I imagine Exogenesis would outright bore most people (including me) to death.
Eh, fair enough. I can kind of see the intro to Cross-Pollination working as a piano segue into another song, but that's just me.
So PiB is probably back and what do we think of the newest gimmick?
Hey, at least it answers the question of what Matt could do if he breaks his leg again.
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Aftermath is good before that christian-rock chorus, yeah:LOL:
Ouch.
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Ah, if only, my friend. If only.
Honestly, it's a little surprising to me that they haven't done the whole thing live. Overture was a staple during the Resistance Tour, and they played Redemption once in Japan, but it seems that Cross-Pollination is doomed to join the same world as Falling Away with You, Big Freeze, and now Aftermath.
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Poppier is fine with me...in small doses (as in not an entire set list of it). I can take some guilty pleasure from songs like SMBH, Madness, Follow Me, Dead Inside...even the dreaded Guiding Light. I just find UD to be dull and IBTY to be horrid.
Eh, Undisclosed Desires grew on me. I prefer it over Follow Me, though I agree with you that IBTY sucks. It's even sillier because, according to Matt, it's actually supposed to be sung from the perspective of someone brainwashed by Big Brother, but all I can think of when listening to it is Twilight.
What's not better with a keytar?OK, probably lots of things but it's still preferable to walking off-stage to shake hands with people.
I've always thought that Hugh Manson should make Matt a new instrument that's a doubleneck guitar, with one of the necks being a regular guitar and the other one being a keytar. Either that or I should get one. It would certainly make switching from one instrument to the other easier.
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The guitar work in Aftermath is really quite good.
Agreed, it's a nice bluesy riff. Almost reminds me of Hendrix.
Also, the chorus reminds me a little of that of Map of the Problematique.
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Showbiz is far from my favorite as well but I kind of give it a pass because it comes off as a low-budget, under-produced introduction to a band that's still finding their way. Showbiz has some songs that I really like and some that I'm basically indifferent toward.
Fair enough. As much as I love mocking the silly lyrics in "Escape," "Muscle Museum," and "Fillip," I won't pretend that my own band's debut album was any better.
Plus, the title track, "Sunburn," "Uno," and "Falling Down" are all great songs, the last one especially meaningful to me, as I have faced the same struggle of not being able to get my band any recognition in my town.On the other hand, Resistance also has some songs that I really like but a few that I really hate. (I'm looking at you, I Belong to You and Undisclosed Desires) Plus, the whole Exogenesis thing is well done and interesting but not really something that I want to listen to regularly. I guess I prefer low-budget and under-produced to big-budget and over-produced.I actually really like Exogenesis, but that's just me. I won't deny that IBTY and UD are much poppier and less complex than their usual stuff.
Speaking of which, am I the only one who thinks that Undisclosed Desires is better live with the keytar? It adds a lot to the song in my opinion, and I also prefer the pizzicato sound in the Resistance Tour shows over the one they used during the 2nd Law and Drones tours.
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I got in at Abso's US release, but OoS wasn't easily available here, and I listened to a friend who told me that OoS was inferior to Showbiz, and it was years before I obtained a copy.
The only song I heard off OoS during that time was, unfortunately, Feeling Good.
To be fair to Feeling Good, many of the live versions make it a hell of a lot more entertaining. See:
If they did more of those in live performances, it would be more enjoyable.
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The first six or seven tracks on each of Origin and Absolution are equally sensational (maybe even giving the edge to Origin). For me though, Origin wanes a bit toward the end while Abso keeps up its steam with songs like Butterflies and Hurricanes, The Small Print and Ruled by Secrecy. Plus, I like the darkness of Abso better.
Not that I begrudge anyone for preferring Origin.
I agree, though maybe "Falling Away with You" was a low point. And it's interesting that you should point out the darkness of Absolution; I've heard it called the darker and edgier version of Origin of Symmetry, and the following tour was probably the darkest one they've ever played, with frequent injuries (most notably Chris breaking his arm) and Dom's dad dying after their legendary Glastonbury 2004 performance.
Despite liking some of their songs earlier, I fully boarded the Muse cruise during The Resistance era as well. After becoming more familiar with their whole back catalogue and their subsequent releases, however, I'd probably consider TR to be just about their weakest album.The Resistance was honestly my first exposure to them, so you could call it the gateway drug to such albums as OOS and Absolution.
Also, call me weird, but I kind of consider Showbiz their weakest album. I don't know why, I just felt that the lyrics were a little more juvenile, the production could have been better, and I was surprised that they didn't use more piano.(And now is when I'm going to be killed.
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Not very.
Abso is hands down my favorite.
It has a lot to do with what album got people into the band, and people being honest enough to go against the clear fanbase favorite
True enough. This is part of why I will always have a soft spot for The Resistance, since it was the album that got me into Muse.
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Not by me. I agree with you.
But Origin is damn close second.
Phew! Thanks. I was a little concerned for a sec.
But yeah, I'm with you. OOS is almost tied. I mostly just prefer Absolution because I felt that the instrumentation was more complex, the production was much better, and Bellamy's lyrics seemed less juvenile. And honestly, I would love to hear them play some of the rarer songs from Absolution--e.g. "The Small Print," "Butterflies and Hurricanes," "Blackout" (but only with Matt on guitar), or "Ruled by Secrecy." Not to say that I didn't scream my lungs out when they played "Citizen Erased," though.
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That is sheer M-M-M-M-M-M-Madness
Also, side note: How unpopular is it for me to say I think Absolution is better Origin of Symmetry? I'm not going to get killed for that, am I?
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You can't expect Muse to release the Zepp show.
They forgot to play Madness.
NOOOOO! Curses! How dare they not play one of their biggest hits?!
Wait... they also didn't play Madness at the HAARP concert... or at Glastonbury 2004! SOUND THE ALARMS! WE NEED TO STOP CIRCULATION OF THOSE TWO SHOWS ON DVD!
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Getting a bit far from the point, which was solely about the mean spirited video, not on why the Zepp never surfaced, or who was to blame.
I just assume they threw the Zepp video in the same warehouse with the lost videos of PF's The Wall Tour and the R-rated cut of Galaxy Quest.
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More like In Your World, maybe. Although the sung section after that could be more reminiscent of Stockholm than Showbiz, in fact, due to the key in Dmin.
Fair point. I forgot about that song, probably because it isn't on any of the albums I own.
Reapers is another one where I feel like all those guitar parts are just randomly shoehorned into the track, and don't feel like they mesh well, making the contrast between the choruses and verses a bit jarring in the process.I don't think it's really in question why it happened.
Maybe it's just me, but I really like the Reapers guitar solos.
Didn't realize people didn't like them.As long as we all agree that Revolt is fokkin gr8 Nope.Honestly if I didn't know about modern progressive rock in the vein of Steven Wilson, I'd probably think "Drones" was the best thing ever. But it's not even close to "Hand.Cannot.Erase".YES. YES. ALL OF MY YES. Hand. Cannot. Erase. should've won the bloody Grammy.
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Unfortunately, I think we have been told, indirectly maybe, that these have nothing to do with the "concept" and simply exist because Mutt told them to extend sections/songs, add solos, etc.
I'm not convinced Matt put that deep of thought into how things impacted the "concept."
I agree that every one of those is an issue, and if it really was true that Matt added them upon request, I can't wish enough that he'd have had the fortitude to stand up for himself during the recording process, or at least was able to realize that the repetition was detrimental to the songs instead of being overwhelmed by someone telling him it was great.
People really stand up for The Handler solo, because it's otherwise a pretty great song, and the solo "evolves into something cool" - but, it really doesn't. At all. After over a minute of the exact same thing, the song changes direction suddenly, not gradually, and it could have been executed exactly the same way, with better impact, if that solo was trimmed down a great deal.
It makes a fantastic song often tiring to listen to, and actually detracts from the important impact of the ending because of the loss of focus.
It was an unfortunate time for Matt to start taking someone's suggestions, imo.
To be honest, I always thought the solo to The Handler was a callback to Muse's song "Stockholm Syndrome" from Absolution. I could be wrong, though.
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http://gurtenfestival.ch/de/stages
They are so out of place here
Suddenly, I wonder what Muse would sound like covering Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats' "S.O.B."
Nah, it would have to be in the same key, or a similar one. So since the intro ends in C... then Explorers? 
Plus, the title track, "Sunburn," "Uno," and "Falling Down" are all great songs, the last one especially meaningful to me, as I have faced the same struggle of not being able to get my band any recognition in my town.
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Much better with the keytar, IMO. Plus, the pizzicato sounds terrible now.