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Bliss >>>> Exogenesis > MK Ultra > Con-Science > The rest of TR
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sorry wrong thread! On topic I did really like the BH&R tour but absolution wins for me
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the small print was in rotation a bit though, like MotP is now. invincible was never dropped
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I'm definitely interested to see what sticks around for the next tour, I know Uprising will, and at least two of Undisclosed Desires, Resistance, United States of Eurasia and Unnatural Selection. The rest are probably gone forever after Australia unless they do some one off gigs next year.
Does anyone else find it weird that Invincible hasn't appeared even once on this tour? It just seems odd to be at every gig on one tour and just gone completely the next.
I find it odd, but I don't really mind because if it was in a gig with guiding light as well then it would be too much for me...
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I think that Undiscosed Desires will stay simply because that it is matts favourite of the album. I wouldn't call uprising monstrous live tbh... it was great at teigmouth but only ok at wembley
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USoE will almost certainly be dropped I think
I actually think it will stay, 4 songs always remain out the staples.
from the absolution tour to BH&R tour SfA went and SS, TiRO, Hysteria and B&H remained. From the BH&R tour to the resistance tour Invincible went and MotP, Starlight, KoC, SMBH all stayed.
So I think that MK Ultra will go like assassin and the Small Print
Overture will go like blackout or city of delusion
Guiding Light will go like SfA or Invincible
Uprising will def. stay as will resistance and Undisclosed desires. For the fourth song I think that USoE is more likely than Unnatural Selection as US has already been dropped from the staples in the US. USoE has been played on every single date of the Resistabce tour
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CE is a good song, all of it is
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If the next album is as bad as the resistance then I honestly think the setlists will go to shit:
from Showbiz we will get nothing
from OoS we will get Plug in Baby and Feeling Good on rotation
From Absolution we will get TIRO and hysteria
From BH&R we will get KoC, SMBH and starlight
From TR we will get Uprising, UD, resistance, USoE
and then 5 sixth album songs, that makes a setlist of 17 songs, so maybe optimistic
So I recon that New Born, Bliss, Citizen Erased, Stockholm Syndrome, Ruled By Secrecy, Butterflies and Hurricanes, Map of the Problematique, Take a Bow, MK Ultra and Unnatural Selection will all become extremely rare...
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TOADA is lyrically and musically brilliant, and the best rock song on Absolution.
How's that for a controversial view?
for me it is defiantly not a rock song, more of a pathetic alternative attempt, it should never have gone near absolution, I prefer Guiding light and feeling good
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Musically or lyrically shit? I think the lyrics are quite intriguing, which is why I sometimes find it okay, but the music makes me want to punch something.
musically it is boring and the lyrics are ok until the yeh, yeh, yeah, yeh, yeah bit
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toada is utter shit, it is what stops absolution from being perfect. defiantly filler
The Small Print is awesome, my second favourite on the album, after SS and it is incredible live with Chris's vocals
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I never said it was terrible, I said that it isn't as good as it's made out to be.
ok fair enough, I think in the studio:
New Born > Citizen Erased & Space Dementia > Plig in Baby > Micro Cuts > Bliss > Hyper Music
Live:
Bliss > Micro Cuts > Hyper Music > New Born > Space Dementia & Citizen Erased
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Bliss is one of my favorites from OoS.
Yeh same, I think it is the best live track off OoS and it is matts favourite of the album so it can't be that bad guys...
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The Small Print > Butterflies and Hurricanes > Ruled By Secrecy > Blackout > AP, Tiro, SfA, FawY...
New Born > Space Dementia > Bliss > CE & Micro Cuts
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Lol, well if we're going that far, then yes, I'd say that would def be the best thing in history, ever . Apart from the TaB bit... that's always been my favourite opener - I can't see it as a closing track, it just doesn't work as effectively, imo.
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Omg now I actually want to see/hear the 'perfect' version you mentioned, lol! Someone needs to do some amazing editing so we can experience that level of awesomes!
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I recon that:
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Dead Star + micro cuts outro
Stockholm Syndrome + the version that I described
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would also be awesome. I like Take a Bow opening but I really liked it at Wembley when it opened the second encore, I thought it was far better than KoC....
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To be honest, I actually agree with many of your points. But my favourite part of SS Glasto, and what makes it the best ever live performance for me (and better than EC) is the outro. It's a fucking killer.
The first riff (the made-up one), is just brilliant, it pwns without a doubt.
Then you get the whole Chris in the crowd part and Matt on the drums... it was just the whole vibe and energy of the last 4 mins or so that made it epically awesome, plus the riffs and jams are better.
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I know the same sort of stuff happened at Earls Court... but it doesn't sound as good, imo. It's still great, but the Glasto outro is epic, imo. THAT'S the crux of why it's better, for me, rather than the performance of the song itself.
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That and the fact that the fecking outro of EC was practically cut from the Abso DVD - it's the best part and they just chopped and changed the footage . You don't see Chris go into the crowd/Matt and Dom on stage jamming/the carnage properly.
Stupid DVD also doesn't include any part of SS from Glasto on the DVD, the bastards, but at least you can see it all properly online thanks to BBC footage.
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If you were to mix the main SS performance from EC with the outro from Glasto, you'd have the best performance in history! But as I don't hear a huge amount of differences between the main song (although the bits you mentioned are true... Matt's voice in EC has more passion, that last 'forget you' is epic and it's all much clearer), they're still very similar, so I go with Glasto.
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However, you can ACTUALLY hear Chris speak in EC (when he says 'cheers'), which almost makes it win .
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Lol I rambled on!
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Ok fair enough, But the thing is that SS is my favourite song of all time so I prefer the song to the outros.
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And to make it perfect, You need the EC Song with the groove in the states scream. Flames to come out with the scream, then the Glastonbury Outros and a guitar smash. And it needs a take a bow intro and to be the final encore.
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I have to say that Earls court is def. better than Glastonbury. I love this song and I think Earls Court is my favourite ever performance.
Firstly the guitar tone is far better in EC
The vocals are more prominent
The pre chorus is more crazy
There is generally more passion in matts voice
The last chorus is incredible when matt just sustains the chords while flailing his arm in the air. The last "forget you" is sustained to extra length. And the riffs last for longer at the end at EC (but unfortually these riffs are cut in the Absolution tour video)
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The only thing that was better at Glastonbury was the scream which is still good at EC.
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RBS>Hoodoo>Fury>Blackout IMO
RSB > Blackout > Hoodoo > Fury.
they are all in the top 30 except for fury though...
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Meeeh it's been awhile since I've actually really appreciated a rocking Muse song.
The Small Print? or have you gone off that now too??
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Take A Bow is better than all of TR put together.
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Maybe the BH&R tour compared with TR tour make a difference to what albums we like? Or eh, maybe not.
I like all the muse albums, but TR and BH&R are the weakest for me.
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BH&R has some of the best Muse songs, but the middle ruins it, and the production is awful. The Resistance doesn't have as many stand-out songs, but overall it's a solid album that I can listen to all the way through. So TR>BH&R. imo
I would say the opposite:
TR has too of my top 10 (MK & exogenesis)
BH&R doesn't have any but I think other than exo-politics it is consistent.
BH&R > TR even there are no stand out tracks for me on BH&R
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Yeah she is, she had a name change.
I don't know, there just isn't enough happening in the song, instrumentally (it's almost just a repeated chord progression), melodically (one melody with a brief variation) or lyrically for me to say it's brilliant. As Raining_Muses said it does the same thing for 5 minutes. Compare to FAWY which is built on a lot happening which you don't immediately notice (bassline, distortion, subtle guitar lines etc). Endlessly suffers from something similar, not a whole lot happens in the song.
Undisclosed Desires would be one of the best things they've done... if it had no lyrics.
Undisclosed Desires is still in my top 20, which is strange, but I like the lyrics. They are quite haunting and it is my favourite soft love song.
MUSE songs you've heard live
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Cave
New Born x2
Bliss x2
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug in Baby x3
Citizen Erased x2
Micro Cuts
Screenager
Dark Shines
Feeling Good x3
Megalomania
Time is running Out x3
Stockholm Syndrome x3
Hysteria x3
Ruled By Secrecy
Take a Bow
Starlight x3
Supermassive Black Hole x3
Map of the Problematique x2
Knights of Cydonia x3
Uprising x3
Resistance x3
Undisclosed Desires x3
United States of Euarasia x2
Guiding Light
Unnatural Selection x2
MK Ultra
Exogenesis Part 1: Overture
Helsinki Jam
MK Jam
Man with a harmonica x3
Nishe
Stadium intro/we are the universe x2
What's he building?
Popcorn