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Fantastic:
1) Teignmouth Night 2, 2009
2) Reading Festival 2011
3) Download Festival 2015
4) Wembley Stadium Night 2, 2010
Ok:
5) Emirates Stadium Night 2, 2013
Poor:
6) London O2 Night 2, 2012
7) LA Staples Centre Night 2, 2015
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The good songs in ST are definetly better than average songs in Absolution imo. Algorithm, TV, and TDS should be higher than TIRO or even SFA. Pressure doesn't deserve the same category with Blockades and TOADA. How can TSP reach top 10 (and better than AP)? In Abosulution i'll put that song just above TOADA (or below
I'm not a fan of TSP).I still believe that everyone will bash FAWY and Endlessly if that song is released after TR (I like both of them though).
Its easy to get bored of TIRO after we've heard it live for so many years, but it's still a great song.
Admittedly I have a soft spot for TSP, but the chorus is huge and the live performances from '04 made it one of my favourites.
Pressure is mediocre at best.. its far too long and has a chorus that feels out of place
If FAWY and Endlessly were released after TR they would probably both be worse songs. Endlessly would be overproduced and ladened with extra backing vocals and FAWY would go through cheesier chord progressions (like the horrid bridge section in The Void). So you're right they'd get more stick but I recon it'd be warranted as the same songs with a 2018 Muse finish would likely be pretty bad.
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It maybe has the two absolute highs with Stockholm and Butterflies but it also has the lowest low (TOADA) and I’d say the core of ST is at least on par, if not generally a smidge better tbh.
For me:
Stockholm Syndrome
Ruled By Secrecy
Butterflies & Hurricanes
Fury
Hysteria
Blackout
The Small Print
Break it to Me
Apocalypse Please
Sing for Absolution
Propaganda
Time is Running Out
Falling Away With You
Endlessly
The Dark Side
Algorithm
The Void
Blockades
Thoughts of Dying an Atheist (agree this is by far the weakest on Abso)
Pressure
Dig Down
Thought Contagion
Something Human
Get Up and Fight
So I guess I find the good songs on ST to be amongst the same quality as the average songs on Absolution. The problem with ST is most of the second half of the album is bordering on unlistenable.
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Guiding Light was probably the worst Muse song when it was released, but since then we've had Revolt, Aftermath, The Globalist, Something Human, Get up and Fight, Thought Contagion and most of the songs on The 2nd Law.. safe to say it's probably not even in the bottom 10 anymore!
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Better flow, better master, more varied and interesting sounds without losing cohesion, more fun, nothing on the level of TOADA
Considerably worse songs though, nothing on ST comes close to the quality of song writing seen on Absolution... maybe BITM comes closest.
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1. Origin of Symmetry
2. Absolution
3. Black Holes & Revelations
4. Showbiz
5. The Resistance
6. Simulation Theory
7. Drones
8. The 2nd Law
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Algorithm
The Dark Side
Map of the Problematique
MK Ultra
Supermassive Black Hole
Propaganda
Break it to me
Citizen Erased
The Void (piano)
Ruled By Secrecy
New Born
Hysteria
Plug in Baby
Knights of Cydonia
Dig Down (gospel)
Muscle Museum
Showbiz
Bliss
Exogenesis Part 1: Overture
Dead Star
Micro Cuts
Stockholm Syndrome
Take a Bow
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Overall definitely much better than I was expecting.
Great:
Propaganda 9/10
Break it to Me 8/10
Decent:
The Dark Side 7/10
The Void 7/10
Algorithm 6/10
Ok:
Pressure 5/10
Blockades 5/10
Dig Down 4/10
Poor:
Thought Contagion 2/10
Something Human 2/10
Get up and Fight 1/10
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Villains was a massive disappointment and Kendrick is king.
If you type Kendrick Lamar generic into google, the autocorrect changes it to Kendrick Lamar genius - that should tell you enough!
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Knights of Cydonia
Hysteria
The Small Print
New Born
MK Ultra
Map of the Problematique
Eternally Missed
The Handler
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Citizen Erased
Space Dementia
Ruled By Secrecy
Sunburn
Fury
Glorious
City of Delusion
Reapers
Megalomania
Hyperchondriac Music
Muscle Museum
Showbiz
Plug in Baby
Bliss
Take a Bow
Assassin
Dead Star
Micro Cuts
Blackout
Stockholm Syndrome
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My code just stopped working as soon as it hit 09:00.. guess that's that!
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I haven't been able to access the website yet, briefly saw that exceptional traffic page but mostly viewing an error message
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At least NSC was a complete one off though. According to Matt, Dig Down will be on the new album. Comparing to the other electro-pop singles, I think it's considerably worse than UD, Madness and DI - and they all came off average to poor albums.
Puts a big downer on this next album before we've even gotten to the proper build up stage..
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Doing SB style gig at Wembley (complete fantasy I know....)
What's He Building in There? + Dead Star
Assassin
New Born
Sing for Absolution
Muscle Museum + The Groove
Eternally Missed
Glorious
Citizen Erased
Exogenesis Part 3: Redemption
Ruled By Secrecy
Space Dementia
Megalomania
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Fury
MK Ultra
Bliss
Shine (acoustic)
City of Delusion
SB Intro + Futurism
Dark Shines
Micro Cuts
Showbiz
Hyperchondriac Music
The Small Print
Stockholm Syndrome + Agitated + Yes Please
Take a Bow
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I missed this one, not sure I could ever go to a normal Muse gig now knowing how much better they can be. I really hope they follow up on their offhand comment that they'd like to do gigs like this again.
I wonder what songs would win out if they did it again in one years time. I recon Showbiz, Assassin and Muscle Museum would all win again, then maybe we'd get City of Delusion and Eternally Missed in for SfA and Easily.
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Let's not fuck around, Feeling Good is pretty decent, and definitely not Explorers tier
Live it's just so disappointing, but that's mostly down to being overplayed. In a studio list I'd have it much higher.
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I know there's that other thread for this but mine is usually:
Con-Science
Uno
Sunburn
Cave
Falling Down
Spiral Static
Showbiz
Host
Recess
Do We Need This?
Muscle Museum (Full Length Version)
Hate This & I'll Love You
Chorus > verse > bridge > outro
I thought you loved Fillip?!
And no way is the Micro Cuts outro worse than the verse.
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If we're talking album piano songs then Butterflies and Hurricanes certainly needs a mention. But if it's just live then my top two are definitely RBS and SD. Then you have the AP, Meglomania, Hoodoo, Screenager tier, then USoE and Endlessly, then crap like Explorers and Feeling Good.
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I think Revolt is the most overrated song on this board. There are a fair few people who think it's listenable.
I also would say on here that Take a Bow, Megalomania, Reapers and Showbiz are slightly overrated (whilst all being good songs).
For me the most underrated are Eternally Missed, The Small Print, City of Delusion and most of Hullabaloo.
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Loads of people see them as insincere and over the top in a musical kind of way. Others simply don't like Matt's voice which is very understandable.
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I think this must be why a lot of music lovers hate Muse. People who look for musical subtlety and well crafted lyrics are going to run a mile!
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One-off 2017 Wembley Gig
*What's He Building in There*
Dead Star
Plug in Baby
Assassin
MK Ultra
Map of the Problematique
Dead Inside
Supermassive Black Hole
Butterflies and Hurricanes
The Handler
Citizen Erased
Exogenesis Part 3: Redemption
Starlight
Uprising
Fury
Time is Running Out
City of Delusion
Reapers
Knights of Cydonia
Space Dementia
New Born
Micro Cuts
Stockholm Syndrome
Take a Bow
Showbiz
Bliss
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Hey, whatever gets attention, right? Even if it's negative, like the teaser for The 2nd Law getting everyone riled up about "Musestep," even though only 2/13 of the tracks (or 4/13 if you really want to stretch it) counted as dubstep.
Actually, you're right. Muse's teasers for their recent albums have been kind of weird.
Unsustainable, Follow me.. then Madness and... ?
But anyway, 'Musestep' was embarrassingly shit so anyone who predicted it would be were correct. That's not 'hating', just successfully weighing up the strengths and weakenses of a band and seeing if they would suit a certain genre.
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OoS is way heavier than Drones imo, then Abso then Drones.
I'm not sure Drones is actually heavier than BH&R either.
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Interesting. How would you shorten it and why exactly? I mean they'd just be playing the song...but cutting out part of it?
And somehow you didn't prepare for this concept to raise questions.
I guess the first minute of Aftermath could work quite well as an instrumental intro. All the other parts of the song are crap so it makes sense to just play the good bit.
Something like Aftermath guitar intro (in A minor) + Time is Running Out would work alright.
I'm not a fan of TSP).
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Absolution Tour was their best. My cousin went to night 2 of Earl's Court '04 and said it was the best gig they've ever been to.