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And it's double pedal haha not double bass (the low-register string instrument).
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Doesnt he use double bass on Dead Inside?
Nope, that's easily single-kick pedal work. Just like Undisclosed Desires (the acoustic version), or Assassin.
And Dom with a double pedal - let alone MUSE with a double pedal for the drum kit - worries me slightly.
It's one of those things that will either really enhance the song and its heaviness or it'll just be overkill and just ruin it.
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I mean let's be honest, Muse has over 150 songs in their discography. There really is no need to be playing the same 3-9 songs all the time and a further 4-5 most of the time when there are so many possibilities.
Keep in mind rehearsals and re-learning their own songs. Remembering structures, specific notes, etc.
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What have we come to?
Discussing LP8 because we've run out of speculative things or leaks to discuss of LP7!EDIT: What IF there will be no LP8? What if this is their last album?
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It'll be a telling album in terms of the direction they want to go in. We'll see whether this album is just a one off chance to put out a rock album before they veer off into campy-oblivion, or whether they really want to refine their rock sound and experiment within a stricter boundary. I personally would like to see them experiment more with an album of 6 minute + proggy tracks to see if they have it in them to change up their comfort levels a bit with an interesting sound that has to be consistent over a longer span of time than the typical rock song.
yep, completely agree with this.
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Listening to this song with headphones makes it even better than it already is, oh my goodness!
And Dom's drum fills in this song are so perfect! Ahh yesss so much win here.
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Live he's a bit sloppy and wild but in studio it's wonderful. Definitely piercing, wouldn't say awful myself though definitely an acquired taste thing like Matt's voice. I actually found myself wildly attracted to Cedric's because I was introduced to Matt's first
Yeah, fair enough. Apologies for the emotional reaction - it's definitely an acquired taste for his high notes. His low-mid notes are definitely nice though.
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That's sooooo sexist. Lolol jk. I'm sure there are some great female singers out there that could mesh well with Matts singing.
Haha yeah just to clarify, I say that because it'd have a duet sort of vibe, which, to me, is hella cheesy. Not the female themselves, of course.
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Cedric Bixler-Zavala + Matt Bellamy falsettoing at the same time would be wicked. Or one doing a low voice and the other doing falsetto and switching between them. They're my two favorite rock singers
Eh, perhaps two male singers like these two, but anybody else and it'd just be weird. With a female, really cheesy.
Oh my gosh Cedric's high notes are awful and piercing!
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It's just classic Muse drop D chromatic riff.
OHHH I was thinking he was referring to the DI outro!!
Yeah, but the riff works! They've replicated their liveliness on an album, finally - or since OoS which played a lot with feedback, (is that what it's called?) and all.
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It would be awesome if Muse did a collab with a female singer.
pls no collabs. With instrumentalists, maybe, but then that might set higher standards than what Muse alone can produce. Collabs with singers are just cheesy.
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Only thing I'm not that excited about is the outro. It kicks ass, and even kinda fits the whole narrative thing thematically, but musically it just feels way too alien to the rest of the song. It must be a face melter live, though.
You mean the 4 bar outro? It resonants with the intro. What did you expect to happen there instead?
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A lot of your posts seem to contain a thin veil of condescension that suggest you think your opinion on certain matters is more valid than other people's, for one reason or another. I'm not the first to take issue with it and I can pretty much guarantee I wont be the last.
*applauds*
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Why shouldn't we be?
Wouldn't admins just follow it right up and block/disallow any sources to spill onto here?
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a song in 5/4 would be cool, loved the 5/4 parts of animals and it tends to be a fun time signature
Yes, 5/4 so is!! I'd love to see Muse pull a Dream Theater and have something like 7/16 and what not. Stuff like in The Dance of Eternity.
OR even the rhythmic changes in the Munich/Varia Jam where Dom went from straight to triplet beat, and then back again, drastically changing the feel of the music through rhythm.
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Guys, when we get album? Sunday or Monday?
What are you on about? Obviously June 9...
And if you're talking about a leak (pretty sure you are), you are quite direct about it on a Muse forum. :S
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4/8 actually i think but yeah while isolated system doesn't do much for me, hoodoo is an amazing song
wonder if they'll further experiment with polymeters on drones
The Resistance ended up being far better live - Uprising, USoE, MK, US, IBTY all sound so much better live. Agree that Resistance isn't great as a song btw, drags so much
Ah yeah, you're right on that!
Yeah, can't wait to hear rhythmic technicalities in Drones! What I'm talking about would include: polymeters, polyrhythms (not too fussed on these - more of an African or Tool thing anyway), time signature changes, odd time signatures.
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I thought United States of Eurasia was pretty good.
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Tempo doesn't interest me, and I'm not doubting the faster drum and bass jams' potential to become good songs, but as they are, they just bore me. Much like for example drum solos, I'm not interested.
And Monty Jam actually makes me feel something.
Completely agree on all of that!
Even as a drummer, I find drum solos disinteresting as well.
And Monty Jam is really something - sure, Helsinki Jam might have some cool bass, but it doesn't make me feel anything as much as Monty Jam does.
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Isolated System is gorgeous but as a song Reapers is better.
Yeah,
And the polymeter sung by the choir near the end in 3/4 against the 4/4 piece really chills me.
Hoodoo string section as well - 4/4 against 3/4.
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Omg, the strings are a slow, orchestral version of the Defector solo... Love it when stuff like this happens. Reprises and interconnections take albums to another level for me.
YES agreed!
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Do you wanna have a go at reading his post again?
Oh true that!
Literal is separate from silly.
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Am I the only one that is me?
You heard the man, the answer is always no.
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I guess I just don't mind literal lyrics, similar to how I really like the album cover and don't see why it being obvious makes it bad. It's the silly sounding stuff like "brainwashing our children to be mean" that makes me shake my head a bit.
whoa whoa whoa what? You say you're fine with the lyrics, (even if they are bad), then you say you didn't like the Supremacy line?
Discussing LP8 because we've run out of speculative things or leaks to discuss of LP7!
but yeah while isolated system doesn't do much for me, hoodoo is an amazing song
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Really? Oh, I've never noticed then.
I really thought Dom would stick with single pedal for something that easy.