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  1. Even though I wouldn't give such low votes to Psycho and Mercy, I agree that the first third of the album is pratically the weakest.

    But from my point of... hearing, it could be just Mercy that let it down considerably. A straight transition from Psycho to Reapers would be a lot better.

     

    I don't consider them bad songs on the whole, just weaker than the rest.

     

    Out of curiosity what do you think the weakest tracks on the album are?

  2. Now I've given it time to sink in properly I'll give my in depth opinions:

     

     

    Dead Inside - 7/10 - As many people have stated, it's basically a better Madness (which I didn't mind all that much) with a splash of Undisclosed Desires and a bit of Radio Gaga for good measure! A really strong song, not the best but catchy enough with a killer solo and a powerful vocal performance at the end. Unnecessary use of the word drones :( Less dark than the title suggests but a little more dark than expected for a pop song.

     

    Psycho - 5/10 - Great riff, good song, some interesting bass movements and Dom's drum fills are on point throughout too. Not a lot to say about this song except is a little too repetitive (not as bad as some people make out imo) and the lyrics are weak (unnecessary use of the word drone #2 :LOL: ) However it's great live and all in all not a bad song.

     

    Mercy - 5/10 - Time for similarities again. Like a weaker starlight with a more boring piano melody. Some good lyrics in places (and the first song not to use the word DRONE!) 'Absent gods and silent tyranny' etc. The 'Queen meets The Darkness' vocals in the chorus save the song for me... the harmonies are banging! Questionable pitch correction in the verses frustrates me though. Again, an okay song but nothing special.

     

    Reapers - 9/10 - The first standout AMAZING track on the album for me. I heard it live in brighton and it was absolutely mind-blowing! Cool tapping licks, some good lyrics again (unneccesary drone usage #3) and quality vocal-delivery throughout. Matt's best solo he's every written by a mile and that super-simple but driving bass riffage in the verses is great! The little synthesized vocals "you can run etc" in the chorus are the icing on fantabulous muse-sundae. A few weird production decisions (the slightly weak-sounding verse and shifting guitar volume) keep this from being a 10/10

     

    The Handler - 10/10 - Now here is one of the best muse songs EVER! The meatiest guitar/bass combo and the really simplistic but powerful drums make this song perfect. The riff has so much power and matt's vocals sound better than ever both in chest voice and falsetto. The bassline in the pre-chorus is one of Chris's finest moments, it is so unexpected but so good! Harmonically it reminds me a little of a heavier space dementia, it has the same dark and eerie vibe. The little vocal effects on the words 'programmed' and 'transformation' are really cool and the vocal melody in general is just so powerful. The delivery is so angry and desperate and it perfectly conveys the feeling of the song.

     

    JFK + Defector - 9.5/10 - This is a very close 2nd place for me. The JFK intro (with the strings hinting at the later guitar solo) had me interested immediately and as soon the queen backing vocals came in I was sold. The melody is one of the strongest by far and again it nails the uplifting emotion it aimed to convey. The lyrics are really good in places (I actually like the blue/green/yellow verse, I think it's really nicely phrased) but the one let down for the song for me is it is a TAD repetitive but it's only a slight issue for me. The solo is banging and the delivery of the words Defector and Pwoblem are spot on :D

     

    Revolt - 8/10 - Now this a great song and I will argue with anyone who dares to disagree! It's catchy as fuck and simplistic, and a slightly awkward tempo change between sections. But for all of these reasons I love it! It's a breathe of fresh air after the several heavier tracks before it and it fits the really uplifting note that defector finishes on. The melody on the chorus is really great even if the pre-chorus is a little TOO cheesy (but I will sing YOU CAN GROW so loud my neighbours worry). Not a lot to say except it's simple and does the job really well! Lyrically sound except unnecessary drone #4.

     

    Aftermath - 7/10 - This song grew on me A LOT. At first I wasn't that sold on it, seemed a bit like a naff boyband tune, but not it just sounds like a good boyband tune! :LOL: Really nice arrangement and guitar playing (very different to Matt's normal playing, kind of Mark Knopfler-y), the verses are among the stronger points of the album on the whole. The choruses are a little dull melodically but the execution and Matt's ad-lib type stuff at the end make up for it, could do without the Mutt vox though...

     

    The Globalist - 7/10 - This also grew on me a fair bit, in particular the Elgar arrangement at the end, with Matt's classic vocal-orchestral blend that he uses. It flows better than a lot of people say in my opinion. Part 2 comes in very suddenly but it instantly gave me that 'end of the world panic' impression like I'm assuming it was supposed to, the world suddenly erupting into chaos as the world ends in a matter of minutes. The intro is a little long in my opinon, it starts to drag a big and perhaps the slide guitar part could have been shortened. The lyrics and vocal are average on the whole, with a couple of particular weak moments (There's no countries left... I think I destroyed them all) and some particularly great (It's human nature, the greatest hunter will survive them all). All in all good but a bit of a let down.

     

    Drones - 8/10 - A great closer to the album, basically one long haunting outro. This isn't really being rated as a standalone song but more of an album closer, as it's intended. As it contains what is, in my opinion, the only necessary use of the word drones on the whole album (the haunting lament would have probably sounded a lot less naff if the word hadn't been shoved down our throats up to this point :LOL: ). But it's a really nicely executed piece and the vocal performance and production is nice, the few splashes of falsetto give it a nice bit of extra Bellamy zing imo!

     

     

    Well that took a while...

  3. It makes me laugh when people complain about this album not being "as heavy as promised". There are some really heavy moments... and they never even promised a "heavy" album. They promised an album that was (mostly) stripped back to a 3-piece rock format and up until aftermath that's exactly what it is.

     

    The whole attitude of 'if it's not heavy it's not good' really rustles my jimmies.

  4. OK - it seems daft to me though, why not play Defector? Is it hard to sing/play or what? Excuse my ignorance.

     

    EDIT: Was a bloody great setlist imho

     

    I'm guessing it was just used as an interlude. The reason for not playing defector was probably simply there was no room in the setlist

  5. It has grown on me, and I'm okay with the heavy part. Would have been nice with some proper vocals with lyrics for that part, but meh.

     

     

    Sounds cliche as fuck.

     

    Because a Muse-ical (sorry, not sorry) totally wouldn't be corny in any way :LOL:

  6. With all this talk of Drones: The Musical I could see this being great towards the end. Post-aftermath, the protagonist is old and reads his child the story of The Globalist. The two of them sitting in the corner of the stage while the story is acted out around them.

     

    Just a strange image that's been in my head! :D

  7. - Riff - This is a hard one... Stockholm Syndrone probabaly

    - Bass - The Handler right now, but probably City of Delusion

    - Guitar solo - Reapers hands down

    - Drums - Assassin/Knights of Cydonia

    - Piano - Exogenesis pt. 2/Ruled by Secrecy

    - Vocals - Exogenesis pt. 3... Gives me the craziest chills

    - Backing vocals - Assassin/Dead Star

    - Chorus - Revolt right now for catchiness, but in terms of just quality probably Space Dementia... or Stockholm

    - Verses - Take a Bow

    - Intro - Citizen Erased

    - Outro - Muscle Museum

    - Lyrics - Hoodoo

     

    Quite a lot of BH&R on here considering it's one of my least favourite albums... just goes to show how good all their stuff is :')

  8. That "But you can rise up like a God" line gives me goosebumps and almost makes me drop a manly tear.

     

    You mean "They'll laugh as they watch us fall"? :LOL:

     

    Also: Why is this track 'Premium-Only' on spotify?

  9. That's the highest I've ever seen someone rank T2L and the lowest for BHaR

     

    Every credit for going against the grain

     

    I've always felt BHaR was overhyped a bit. Exo-Politics, MotP, SMBH never really did that much for me, KoC is great live but a bit weak on the album, same with Starlight imo... everyone is entitled to their own opinion though :)

  10. i like the verses but the choruses are awful. The verses sound very current pop rock whereas the choruses are just garbage. Sounds like a contemporary christian track. And the solo is about as bland as it gets.

     

    justify your reasons! :D

  11. For musicians out here, did u realise that all the songs on this album have a connection with the note D (all of them are D major, D minor or G major) except dead inside! I don't think that's a coincidence, that adds up to the cohesion...

     

    It's probably because it's a concept album. Changing key signatures too much will ruin the flow a little bit. Keeping the keys closely related gives it a bit more consistency.

  12. auto-tune anyone? it's off-putting once you hear it.... :(

     

    That's been a theme on this album for me :/ I like a lot of the production on this album and some of electronic effects on his voice (like in the handler and the chorus of reapers) are really cool, but so many of the tracks have used auto-tune unnecessarily and it's a bit annoying :/

  13. After even more listening i'm getting a bit of heavier space dementia vibe here. It's got that sort of slight classical, haunting falsetto and that really cool (slightly final fantasy sounding :LOL:) bassline at 0:51 has a similar sound to it

  14. I think it's one of the best things Muse has produced in a very long time, don't get me wrong. However, I wish it was just a couple of BPM higher (only a couple). It would also, I think, sound really good with some great Chris backing vocals a la Dead Star.

     

    And I wish the bass was a bit louder but I've boosted it myself already.

     

    The tempo works so well I think. It gives it that really great half-time headbang thing and the faster bits don't need to be any faster.

     

    This song is just too much for me right now... I love the vocal effects on the words 'programmed' and 'transformation', and the little vocal ee-ah-ee-ah-ee-ah-ee-ays. This song is just too much

  15. It is a glaring, unacceptable error, I'm not denying that, it's just that people seemed to be attacking it from all directions.

     

    The guitar only sounded particularly weak on Animals imo. It was as loud and noticeable as it needed to be everywhere else. A lot of the tracks are less guitar-focused which isn't a flaw in production.

  16. Well Unnatural Selection is really weak as studio recording.

     

    I would much prefer Reapers/Mercy to be produced like that though. The production on the verse let it down which is annoying because live I actually prefer the verse to the chorus :/

     

    I've never found those tracks to be overproduced actually

    What tracks were you talking about then?

  17. Yeah, because those two albums don't have any overproduced song :rolleyes:

     

    Complex production =/= Over-produced. Tracks like Madness/UD/Follow Me use a lot of synths/electronics but it fits the type of sound they're going for and it gels whether you like the song or not. Mercy was poorly produced and this sounds a bit over-produced. There are unnecessary effects on the vocals, the mix is too up and down and it generally doesn't gel like the last two albums do.

  18. SOOO GOOOOOD! But I think this album would sound much better if they produced it themselves, TR and T2L were easily the best produced albums muse have ever made... this is a little overproduced... but still REALLY good!

  19. Explorers for me is one of the strongest songs on T2L, I think it's such an amazingly written piece, from the structure to the melody/chord shifts. I generally find that a lot of people bash songs that are less heavy for simply not being balls-out rock.

     

    The same goes for the more electronic songs like Madness/Dead Inside/Follow Me/UD I've seen the argument 'it needs more guitar' pretty often and it's just kinda dumb and close-minded imo.

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