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Not interested? You're basically just trying to tell me that my opinion is wrong. I think it's important, you don't. Cool. Yes, let me have my opinion and I'll let you have yours. You know that's not the point I'm making so I'm not even going to bother responding to that.
For your second point however, the difference of opinion stems from what's considered a collection of amazing songs. I don't consider a setlist primarily of songs from their last 3 albums an amazing collection. That's fine if some of you do. I don't.
The last 3 albums have been not where near as good as the first 4, that I agree, but there's still great songs that stand out on each of those 3 albums that people would love to get.
If you really don't like those songs, and you're still going to be disappointed, then maybe they've just moved past your taste, and there's not much point on seeing them live currently Old Muse is great, a ton of people would agree, and it sucks they don't play more old stuff, but most bands stop playing their first few albums the further along they go
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Yes, I'd be a little disappointed that not a single song from my favourite Muse album was played. It'd be interesting to see one that's so...un-Muse, sure, but that wasn't ever the original point.
I think it's weird because I don't see why that's so difficult for you to comprehend.
It may come as a surprise, but people will have different opinions to you about what does/doesn't make a good setlist.
EDIT: The point I originally made, which I think has been misunderstood, is that in the context of these relatively disappointing/generic setlists that Muse are doing - even with one that has a few more rarities than is the norm of late and came as a nice surprise, it's still 2 steps forward and 1 step back for me in that they've completely omitted anything from OoS in doing so.
I specifically mention OoS as we've come to expect that 90% of Muse gigs these days won't feature anything from Showbiz. It's not the norm however for nothing at all to feature from OoS.
You're telling me you'd feel better if Feeling Good was played instead of any of the songs on that list, just so that something from Origin gets played? That's nuts.
A collection of amazing songs is still a collection of amazing songs, regardless of album. OoS is my fav album, tied with Absolution, but I could care less if I didn't hear any songs from either album if i was getting setlists like that
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At least with sporting events, you often get to a point where the outcome is a foregone conclusion.
I remember my dad always hauling me out of ball games early when we were losing.
Unless the game is a blow-out, I'd say concerts have more of a foregone conclusion (especially if you follow their setlists) than sports. I've seen crazy stuff happen in a final inning or final 2 minutes of a game tons of times to know it's worth staying for.
One of my biggest pet peeves is people leaving early, especially when it affects the people around them that want to stay. Walking in front of people while the game or show is on going is extremely rude to those that want to stay. I always say, if you want to beat traffic, stay home and watch the game
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Nijmegen, Holland
Wow what's setlist! So lucky!
CE and SS as a first encore followed by TaB, PiB and KoC as a second!
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/muse/2010/goffertpark-nijmegen-netherlands-33d4189d.html
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On my first Muse gig I got New Born, Stockholm Syndrome, MK Ultra, Take a Bow, Citizen Erased, Map and Bliss. I should've treasured that moment more.
You must've seen them in Australia?
In North America, every show got Stockholm, and most got Map and New Born (they cut it during the second leg of the NA tour), but MK Ultra, CE, Bliss and Take a Bow were pretty rare here and never together in the same show
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Oh wow. What about the pretty UD visuals?
Gone!
It was really odd, after Madness, Matt kept his guitar and started playing around with it, then bam...Resistance! I was quite happy not hearing UD on back to back nights!
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I have no complaints against T2L tour other than the fact that the first leg in the US had three shows in Los Angeles and the rarest thing we got was a cover song. Sure, count Bliss if you're counting LA1 which was the same as San Diego down to the riffs they played. Meanwhile on the East Coast, single dates got Fury/Agitated and multiple dates got Dead Star and even Micro Cuts quite consistently.
I could've done three shows on the East Coast or a single stadium in Europe and got more rotations/material than I heard at 8 arena shows and that sucks. If they're going to continue playing here first, don't punish us. Get a nice structure down that is consistent and rewarding for everybody.
Same thing applies here, if I did the two recent shows, I would've gotten a better more varied show than my five West Coast dates for Drones.
Actually I do have a complaint against The 2nd Law tour, wasn't there a song slot literally dropped the moment they came from Europe?
The only reason the east coast got rare songs is because of signs on multiple night shows. Dead Star for both Toronto and New York and Micro Cuts just the once in Montreal. The signs idea really only started after the 3 shows in LA but I'm sure signs could've got you something more "rare" than Bliss.
And speaking of Bliss, I know it doesn't seem so rare to you because the West Coast hears it fairly often, but on the East Coast, it is quite rare! I've been to 13 shows, and have only heard it once, and that was the special show at Webster Hall. My friend has been to 20 Muse shows, he's also only heard it once, again at Webser Hall.
Speaking of special shows, the Mayan gig not only had more songs than the Webster Hall gig, but you guys got Assassin as well!
The only reason Pittsburgh got Fury was because it happened to be Catherine's 100th show. If that had fallen on a West Coast show, it would've been played there. It was just luck.
My point to all of this is it seems like you have a huge confirmation bias going on here. Sure some shows in the West got short changed, but shows in the East do too (Detroit didn't even have a piano slot). It's not like Muse caters to one or the other.
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Thanks Dark. you're a love. No need to worry then...
I'm going to my first TO concert and I hope they don't kick me out of GA because I have total plans to dance and clap and enjoy the concert. Most my friends believe it is the norm to stand still ...
come on! This is rock!! I hope the crowd goes wild!!!
No worries!
I hope you dance around and sign along, this is a rock show after all! People who just stand still give us Canadians a bad rep as bad crowds!
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So excited! I can't wait for the 16!!
Hoping good weather continues.... I need to go and pick up pre-sale tickets and then line-up. Does anyone know if there are several entrances to GA in AC centre or if GA is divided by sections/barriers (besides the expected VIP/GA division)?
There's only one entrance to the GA
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Showbiz
Sunburn x2
Origin of Symmetry
New Born x5
Bliss x1
Plug in Baby x7
Citizen Erased x1
Micro Cuts x1
Feeling Good x4
Absolution
Intro x1
Apocalypse Please x1
Time is Running Out x11
Stockholm Syndrome x7
Interlude x7
Hysteria x9
Butterflies & Hurricanes x2
Black Holes & Revelations
Starlight x12
Supermassive Black Hole x12
Map of the Problematique x8
Knights of Cydonia x12
The Resistance
Uprising x12
Resistance x9
Undisclosed Desires x9
United States of Eurasia x7
Guiding Light x4
Unnatural Selection x2
Exogenesis Part 1 x3
The 2nd Law
Supremacy x6
Madness x7
Panic Station x6
Survival x6
Follow Me x6
Animals x2
Explorers x3
Liquid State x6
Unsustainable x6
Isolated System x6
Drones
Dead inside x2
Psycho x2
Mercy x1
Reapers x2
B Sides
Dead Star x1
Agitated x1
Fury x1
The Groove x1
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From near the back where I was it looked like everyone was jumping and singing and screaming. The crowd was easily the best pit i'd ever been in. I'm sure there were parts towards the mid point where it wasn't as loud as say during Psycho, but people were exhausted i'm sure.
I felt completely dead by the end of the show, my body aching and killing me but it was worth every second. It was hot as hell in there and the set was so heavy. I can honestly say I put out all the energy, jumping, singing, and screaming that I had in me
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This will be my first Muse gig. You can't even imagine my excitement right now.
What a first gig to go to! Not sure how you're going to be able to top it after though
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Time for an update
Showbiz
Sunburn x2
Origin of Symmetry
New Born x4
Plug in Baby x6
Citizen Erased x1
Micro Cuts x1
Feeling Good x4
Dead Star x 1
Absolution
Time is Running Out x9
Stockholm Syndrome x6
Interlude x4
Hysteria x7
Butterflies & Hurricanes x2
Black Holes & Revelations
Starlight x9
Supermassive Black Hole x9
Map of the Problematique x7
Knights of Cydonia x9
The Resistance
Uprising x9
Resistance x8
Undisclosed Desires x9
United States of Eurasia x6
Guiding Light x4
Unnatural Selection x1
Exogenesis Part 1 x3
The 2nd Law
Supremacy x5
Madness x5
Panic Station x5
Survival x5
Follow Me x5
Animals x1
Explorers x3
Liquid State x5
Unsustainable x5
Isolated System x5
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Showbiz
Sunburn x1
Origin of Symmetry
New Born x4
Plug in Baby x5
Citizen Erased x1
Feeling Good x3
Dead Star x 1
Absolution
Time is Running Out x7
Stockholm Syndrome x5
Interlude x3
Hysteria x6
Butterflies & Hurricanes x2
Black Holes & Revelations
Starlight x7
Supermassive Black Hole x7
Map of the Problematique x6
Knights of Cydonia x7
The Resistance
Uprising x7
Resistance x6
Undisclosed Desires x7
United States of Eurasia x5
Guiding Light x4
Unnatural Selection x1
Exogenesis Part 1 x3
The 2nd Law
Supremacy x3
Madness x3
Panic Station x3
Survival x3
Follow Me x3
Animals x1
Explorers x2
Liquid State x3
Unsustainable x3
Isolated System x3
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That's why I prefer a band like Foo Fighters live. They play 30 song sets. Fuck yeah
Even Radiohead plays 23 songs on average.
The Foo Fighters are such an awesome live band but their 30 songs are generally shorter than most of Muse's stuff.
If Muse played even 20 + on most nights i'm sure there would be a lot less complaining. But none of this 15 song bs
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At least live it's enjoyable
True
Although when it comes down to songs I'd want in the setlist, Guiding Light wouldn't come anywhere close
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In the trash can
lol
I actually don't hate Guiding Light as much as most people do here
Sure it's cheesy but I like the small solo
It is however my least fav song on the album
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Yes he is actually on topic for this thread so if you want to rework the flow of albums just search and create a new thread but don't derail the topic on this one.
Yup
It was a rate, not a reorder. Not sure where I'd put Guiding Light in a Reorder
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Showbiz
1) Showbiz
2) Sunburn
3) Cave
4) Muscle Museum
5) Filip
6) Unintended
7) Sober
8) Uno
9) Escape
10) Falling Down
11) Overdue
12) Hate This & I'll Love You
Origin of Symmetry
1) Bliss
2) Citizen Erased
3) New Born
4) Plug In Baby
5) Micro Cuts
6) Hyper Music
7) Space Dementia
8) Megalomania
9) Darkshines
10) Screenager
11) Feeling Good
Absolution
1) Time is Running Out
2) Hysteria
3) Butterflies & Hurricanes
4) Stockholm Syndrome
5) Falling Away With You
6) Sing For Absolution
7) Apocalypse Please
8) Ruled By Secrecy
9) Thoughts of a Dying Atheist
10) The Small Print
11) Blackout
12) Endlessly
Black Holes & Revelations
1) Map of the Problematique
2) Knights of Cydonia
3) Starlight
4) City of Delusion
5) Hoodoo
6) Assassin
7) Take a Bow
8) Invincible
9) Supermassive Black Hole
10) Soldier's Poem
The Resistance
1) MK Ultra
2) Resistance
3) Unnatural Selection
4) Uprising
5) United States of Eurasia
6) Undisclosed Desires
7) Exogenesis Part 2
8) Exogenesis Part 1
9) Exogenesis Part 3
10) I Belong to You
11) Guiding Light
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New Born x2
Plug in Baby x4
Citizen Erased x1
Feeling Good x2
Time is Running Out x4
Stockholm Syndrome x4
Hysteria x4
Butterflies & Hurricanes x2
Starlight x4
Supermassive Black Hole x4
Map of the Problematique x4
Knights of Cydonia x4
Uprising x4
Resistance x4
Undisclosed Desires x4
United States of Eurasia x4
Guiding Light x4
Unnatural Selection x1
Exogenesis Part 1 x3
Not interested? You're basically just trying to tell me that my opinion is wrong. I think it's important, you don't. Cool. Yes, let me have my opinion and I'll let you have yours. 
you're a love. No need to worry then...
Psycho/Drones General Tour Discussion Thread
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I understand that different people have different tastes..........that being said: ugh no just no:eek: