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spider jerusalem

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  1. This Tuesday, Muse fans in Brazil were surprised by the exorbitant prices announced by T4F for the upcoming gigs in October, only a day before the pre-sale date. They want to make money out of our love for a band that denounces the evils of capitalism… Our monthly minimum wage in Brazil is exactly R$ 788,00. A premium ticket at the floor level in Rio de Janeiro is priced at R$ 700,00. Plus what the most loyal fans might pay for the absurd invention called “early entry”, a meager R$ 300,00 extra to get to the barrier first. Are there cheaper seats? Yes. Far away from the stage. In short, if you want to get near the band, you’ll have to spend an amount of money which is not in keeping with the country’s average income, not by a long shot, coming close to the monthly income of many Brazilians. Thus, premium tickets will not be for the biggest fans, but for the richest.

     

     

     

    Are we buying tickets to see the same band that wrote “ANIMALS”, exposing capitalism’s limitless greed, which will trample on anyone and anything for more profit? It’s become hard to accept the contradiction. MUSE must have their eyes opened for the abusive prices being imposed on their Brazilian fans.

     

    In face of all this, our team at the MUSEBR fan club informs that we will put off our decision to go to the gigs in Brazil, to show our indignation at these prices, which are far removed from our reality. Not even tickets to bands like U2, Arctic Monkeys, Pearl Jam or Queen have cost as much. We want more than anyone else for our favorite band to come to Brazil and enjoy mainstream fame here. We work towards that goal for free, and we were prepared to be partners in the promotion of the events, helping attract the largest public possible to the gigs in Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo. Unfortunately, what T4F accomplished with their “business strategy” was to disencourage even the most faithful fans. We make a point of being respected as customers, and not being ripped off and made fools of because we follow our favorite band. Let everyone who hears the reason in our arguments hold out and wait for a statement from T4F regarding their prohibitive prices before you buy your tickets.

     

    http://www.musebr.com/05/2015/nota-da-equipe-sobre-os-valores-dos-ingressos/

     

     

     

    I was only aware of the tickets price last week - my life has been quite crazy, and since we shutdown Muse Brasil, I got a little away from the band events and such.

     

    Mate, you bet on me that we'd supported you on this.

     

    Add to that the gig will be in fucking Barra da Tijuca, which basically means: a hell to reach there, a hell to get out of there.

     

     

     

     

     

    I have no idea but don't prices depend on demand? I find suprising they're playing such a small venue in Rio for example.

     

    Either way if Muse goes through with it they lost my respect.

     

    The demand factor is one of the cheap excuse producers use here. "People aren't buying tickets, so we are raising the price" - but if you are raising the price, less people will be able to afford that.

     

    Lindsay Sterling played here this year and her tickets were a absurd too. Same t4f, if I'm not mistaken.

     

     

     

    Can anybody translate what was said?

     

    Can you point me which tweets?

     

     

    Without a valid excuse?

     

    Matt was sick, had something to do with his throat. He played Lollapalooza with a sore throat, but they had to cancel the solo gig which was three or two days before.

     

    Sorry if someone already told you. I've stopped reading on page 6.

     

     

    If you're talking about "handling" "building fees" etc - that's set by the ticket sellers and venues, at least in the US.

    Band's management has nothing to do with it other then scheduling the venue, and it's why I paid $75 per ticket and $55 per ticket for shows on the same tour in the same general area.

     

    With BR, it seems the base price of the ticket is incredibly high to begin with, and it's unclear if the "early access" is something set up by the venue or not.

     

    Is totally by the venue. The same way they charge you a "convenience fee" because you bought it on the internet - even if it is not going to be delivered at your door and you have to pick it up yourself.

     

    This fee is just another way they've found to extort and exploit people. And this may stick around, since T4F is one of the main producers here. 10 years ago or less, they started with this "premium floor" section, which was not a common thing to do. Now, every concert has a "premium floor", which is substantially closer to the stage and is usually filled with random people, sub-celebrities, people invited, and a few fans who could afford those tickets.

     

    This happens to almost every band concert. Ah, and most concerts here are set on "standing venues".

     

    The bottle line is that we know there are people who is going to pay for these. I'm not judging anyone here, though I think they only feed the greed producers doing it so.

     

    "They will pay, they always do." - that's their moto.

     

    I was going to write a lot, but most of what I'd say was already said. I will only add one thing about a personal feeling:

     

    It is sad to think that I paid R$180 on my first gig, back in 2008, right there in São Paulo, and more or less 250 for the Rock in Rio in 2013, WHICH WAS A FESTIVAL!! And now, to think that I have to pay R$250 to watch it form a shit place is really frustrating. Also, gigs for me are like going to a football match: the experience has a lot to do with being in the crowd feeling its energy.

     

    If this has already being posted, excuse me. But bellow you can see Rio's venue map:

     

     

     

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  2. EDIT: with the new neat feature described above, the method shown below became useless. I will left for history purpose. :LOL:

     

    good guidelines. lets hope people will follow them. :]

     

    on another board, not related with music (rpg stuff) but where it was really necessary to keep track of what you were talking about, we had similar guidelines. there you´d put something like "[GURPS Cyberpunk] Doubts about technology time setting". Here, I'd post something like '[sourceName DD/MM/YYYY] Understandable Title'.

     

    Cheers!

    :)

  3. the weirdest place i saw a muse song was at a TV show here. it is a program where they re-act crimes to find criminals and also phenomenons. i think it was about UFOs and was playing Apocalypse Now at the closing - i kind of have fun watching things abour UFOs.

     

    cheers

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