MuseRLegend Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Itl'll be lovely to see an OoS or Showbiz style album, with that level of intimacy and personal, inward lyrics, but with the talent of Muse now, both in song writing and playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutDaFucksy Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 It would be great to have another Showbiz/OoS but most of the songs are too good for the general public on the radio. Nah but seriously they have changed, I'm expecting (hoping for) more MotP and MK Ultra sound but I think it will be more OTT like NSC and USoE (I like USoE). It will be a huge hit and miss on here whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuutar Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I hope they make music what they want to do, not what fans are expecting from them. Because if they do latter, it's just product not music. Anyways, nice interview In parts it sounded same as some earlier ones though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I wouldn't be surprised if the loss of the studio was hard to deal with, alongside the loss of a home and a girlfriend, but of course we have to be careful what we talk about here. Be careful to show we actually care about these guys, in case the thought police get on our backs. Losing a studio isn't comparable to losing a home or girlfriend, it's a workplace at the end of the day, they are far from glamourous, magical places. Although the death of any large, commercial studio is a sad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnyColourYouLike Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I hope they make music what they want to do, not what fans are expecting from them. Because if they do latter, it's just product not music. Anyways, nice interview In parts it sounded same as some earlier ones though. I completely agree with everything you just said! Thats what Pink Floyd did and look how well they did. S'long as they're making the music they want to I'm happy though I might not prefer it I can respect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Oh great. I though we were over the whole Muse should do OoS again thing and it had simply moved on to clinging on to Bliss and CE live. I guess on stray comment from the band is all it takes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExogenesisP1 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I just want them to enjoy making music, and from reading that interview it seems Matt isn’t at his happiest when he’s creating. But I’m glad they’re moving back to the UK, might reconnect them with their roots. I know people hate it when fans suggest things about the new album, but if I had to say anything to the guys, it would be to lay off the synth a little. P.S. Niall you've seen Muse 12 times!! I'm pretty jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Losing a studio isn't comparable to losing a home or girlfriend, it's a workplace at the end of the day, they are far from glamourous, magical places. Although the death of any large, commercial studio is a sad thing. Of course I know that, but it's obviously a less intrusive aspect to comment on as it's something that concerns their career. And having a home situated, self-built music studio is different than going to work in a factory. It wasn't any old studio, it was built to their specifications. I seem to remember it was also like (or maybe actually was, I can't remember) a nuclear bunker which is very Matt like isn't it?! And I think I would put a home studio, for a musical artist, on a par with a home. Perhaps Matt didn't care, who knows, having other more important things to consider, but I'm associating it with dreams (which we as fans were given a lot of information on and I personally enjoyed hearing about) being lost, rather than loss of bricks and mortar. It's not tragic but it's pretty shit. Or maybe I'm just a sentimental old fool! And incidentally I'm only talking about this now, because people are continuing to argue it, even though some people can, at least, argue it in a civil way which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I hope they make music what they want to do, not what fans are expecting from them. Because if they do latter, it's just product not music. I agree. Well it's still music but I know what you mean. I want them to do whatever music they feel inspired to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Wonder whether they will go back to having a producer for the next album... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Of course I know that, but it's obviously a less intrusive aspect to comment on as it's something that concerns their career. And having a home situated, self-built music studio is different than going to work in a factory. It wasn't any old studio, it was built to their specifications. I seem to remember it was also like (or maybe actually was, I can't remember) a nuclear bunker which is very Matt like isn't it?! And I think I would put a home studio, for a musical artist, on a par with a home. Perhaps Matt didn't care, who knows, having other more important things to consider, but I'm associating it with dreams (which we as fans were given a lot of information on and I personally enjoyed hearing about) being lost, rather than loss of bricks and mortar. It's not tragic but it's pretty shit. Or maybe I'm just a sentimental old fool! And incidentally I'm only talking about this now, because people are continuing to argue it, even though some people can, at least, argue it in a civil way which is nice. First of all, you don't know the full details of what is going on there, if they are planning a move to London, they could be looking at relocating the studio/equipment to somewhere new. Maybe the association with the breakup, Chris' drinking, they might associate the place with bad memories and feel it's not going to be the best place for them to record. Unless there's money issues, then it's not truly lost and not worth getting emotional about a situation you don't fully understand My studio is my laptop, it's quite nice mixing tracks on a train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undiscovered Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I hope they make music what they want to do, not what fans are expecting from them. Because if they do latter, it's just product not music. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 First of all, you don't know the full details of what is going on there, if they are planning a move to London, they could be looking at relocating the studio/equipment to somewhere new. Maybe the association with the breakup, Chris' drinking, they might associate the place with bad memories and feel it's not going to be the best place for them to record. Unless there's money issues, then it's not truly lost and not worth getting emotional about a situation you don't fully understand My studio is my laptop, it's quite nice mixing tracks on a train Yeah okay, I accept that. Though I just thought of something that made me giggle. This is like an old fashioned thing I know which I'm using as an analogy, I'm not being sexist. But you know how you hear of men who like to sit out in the garden shed, as it feels like totally their own place whereas the woman in the household tends to make most of the choices regarding how the home is decorated etc. Well I suppose I have thought of Matt's home music studio as a rather elaborate and expensive version of his garden shed! And don't take the piss, I know it was a commercial studio/workplace etc etc, but that's where the sentimental aspect comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Chizzlebrox Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Commenting on an article or asking someone to clarify their post! How terribly stalkerish of me! Maybe no one should ever say anything on here just to be on the safe side! It would be a bit boring then though. Maybe we shouldn't talk about Muse on here. It's just the wrong place. I'm sorry Matt, I didn't mean to stop you from moving on with your life. Or maybe we should talk about their music, and not them as people. After all, that's what the forum was meant to be for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnyColourYouLike Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Er hungry anyone?? Free for all! sigh what's new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Yeah okay, I accept that. Though I just thought of something that made me giggle. This is like an old fashioned thing I know which I'm using as an analogy, I'm not being sexist. But you know how you hear of men who like to sit out in the garden shed, as it feels like totally their own place whereas the woman in the household tends to make most of the choices regarding how the home is decorated etc. Well I suppose I have thought of Matt's home music studio as a rather elaborate and expensive version of his garden shed! And don't take the piss, I know it was a commercial studio/workplace etc etc, but that's where the sentimental aspect comes in. I find the sentimental value is in the equipment itself, rather than the building, as all the equipment is your's and how you want it and all that. Any dedicated studio does feel like a bunker, because there will be no windows anywhere (Soundproofing & acoustic treatment), like when you go to the cinema and come out afterwards and the light hits you, it's exactly like that, except after 8 hours & probably not eaten or had a drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Or maybe we should talk about their music, and not them as people. After all, that's what the forum was meant to be for. That's true but when they are talking about how the music they want to do relates to them as people, you are bound to have some overlap. An artist expresses their feelings through their art so that other people can relate to those feelings, not necessarily to the feelings of the actual artist, but in a conceptual way. But I think with Muse, they have built up a virtual relationship, with a lot of their fans anyway, which goes beyond that, in that a lot of fans (not all by any means) do think of them as people rather than it being just about listening to notes or taking in concepts. My impression from comments that have been made (particularly by Matt) is that that is what they want. They might have a rethink if it went mad, and of course there's a danger of that and it's right that there should be boundaries, but as long as we treat them with respect particularly in relation to their privacy, I can't see why we shouldn't relate to them as people. Because surprise suprise, they actually are! Sorry I had to add that in to make it not sound stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beibi Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Wonder whether they will go back to having a producer for the next album... I think Chris being himself 100% is a good thing because he is the only rational one , but a producer would be good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I find the sentimental value is in the equipment itself, rather than the building, as all the equipment is your's and how you want it and all that. Any dedicated studio does feel like a bunker, because there will be no windows anywhere (Soundproofing & acoustic treatment), like when you go to the cinema and come out afterwards and the light hits you, it's exactly like that, except after 8 hours & probably not eaten or had a drink. Is it your own studio or someone else's? See, that could make a difference, though I think you can understand what I mean a bit more now. BTW just adding, it sounds very intensive for you. I wonder whether at Muse's level, and since they weren't tied by time constraints, there might have been more opportunity for refreshment. As Nyann pointed out they could have always logged on here if they were hungry! They talked about it being such a benefit (of course I know it might not have been as good as they said, like you pointed out) that I hope they do find a way to retrieve that for the next album, rather than going back to the pressures of watching the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I think Chris being himself 100% is a good thing because he is the only rational one , but a producer would be good for them. True, I think a producer would help them to focus and be more coherent music wise (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper_chondriac_muser Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Interesting read, although the writer adopted about 6 different writing styles in one, lol. I'm really liking the idea that they'll all be in one place together again (London, YAY! lol). I think they'll be able to reconnect and be more creative if they get more opportunities to hang out and just 'jam' etc as Dom mentioned. I think they should work with a producer again to give them a greater sense of direction... I know the 'idea' for the next album at the moment is to have a more 'emotive' record that touches on personal elements, according to Matt, but that doesn't mean that they can't still have another creative input that influences the musical direction so it's not OTT, if you get what I mean. Either way, I'm very interested to see which way this one will go. That's the beauty of Muse - they change musical direction with each album and always leave you a bit surprised (whether good or bad); even Dom admitted it when asked, giving the accurate answer "Fuck knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louhi Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Late commentator, as always. I don't know, the first thing that caught my attention was how close those three still seem to be after all these years. Moving to London, to be able to live close to each other? I'm not used to this kind of closeness between band members, I have a long history of being a fan of bands whose members do not get along with each other, at all. I've been a fan of for example Guns n' Roses and Pink Floyd. W. Axl Rose and Slash don't talk with each other anymore. Roger Waters and David Gilmour didn't talk with each other for about 25 years! I'm just constantly amazed I'm finally a fan of a band whose members are actually each other's best friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Chizzlebrox Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Late commentator, as always. I don't know, the first thing that caught my attention was how close those three still seem to be after all these years. Moving to London, to be able to live close to each other? I'm not used to this kind of closeness between band members, I have a long history of being a fan of bands whose members do not get along with each other, at all. I've been a fan of for example Guns n' Roses and Pink Floyd. W. Axl Rose and Slash don't talk with each other anymore. Roger Waters and David Gilmour didn't talk with each other for about 25 years! I'm just constantly amazed I'm finally a fan of a band whose members are actually each other's best friends! The two examples you named should tell you why they split up. Bands don't stay together if the people in the band don't like each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louhi Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 The two examples you named should tell you why they split up. Bands don't stay together if the people in the band don't like each other. That is the point I was trying to make. For once I don't have to be worried/annoyed about the split-up of my favourite band. Very refreshing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Electrify My Life Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I brought it today!! .. but I haven't had chance to read it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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