Astronoma Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Oh, my bad. Taking this record as a whole, its still rubbish. Barely touches the genius of previous work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie*** Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 First of all I love the piano parts and I always have been adoring the combination of piano and drums! I like the album very much (I don't love TR - except the tracks where I put "love" in it). It's not my favorite though. Ranking 6/10 United States of Eurasia: I just love this track with the piano!! It's just amazing and it's my absolutly favorite!!! Uprising: I love the live version most. But the song itself is great. I really like the start and it gets better with every minute. Undisclosed Desires: I really like this song. It's not typical for Muse compared to the other albums in my opinion. The lyrics are deep and seem honest. The whispers in the background were such a good idea. I love it! Resistance: It's a good song I like it alot and could here it thousands of time but I'd always skip the first 15 seconds Unnatural Selection: LOVE IT! MK Ultra: I liked this song live more than the album version. Guiding Light: I like this song and the lycris itself alot. I belong to you: Well I think there are alot of people who only hate it because the song were on twilight. I don't hate this song. I like it but sometimes I skip this song as well. Depends on my mood. Cross-Pollination: LOVE this song after one minute! Overture: Lovely song to read to. Sometimes I skip this song. Depends on my mood. Redemption: This one is my most favorite of the three parts!! My absolutely favorites are USoE, US, UD, Resistance and Uprising. EDIT:/// Doris is such a fake bitch. Glad copying worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprocketeer Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Wow, time flies. I recall when we were first getting track names leaked. Over the past year, I feel some songs on the album that I liked at first haven't aged very well. To be specific, I'm referring to the three-song run of Resistance, Undisclosed Desires, and United States of Eurasia (and Guiding Light, but that was crap from Day One). Whoever said the first half of the album is weaker hit the nail on the head. Uprising is a decent enough mainstream hit in spite of the fact that it's one of the weaker album openers and live openers. I first thought of Resistance as a superior version of Starlight, but while I still find it a decent song, it's certainly indicative of Muse's turn toward unabashed cheese. UD, while certainly an interesting shift in direction for Muse, has become boring, and I hope they veer away from the R&B stuff in the future. USOE is over-the-top in too silly of a manner, regardless of whether you think Muse should be over-the-top in general. And Guiding Light...yeeeeeah... I still really enjoy everything from Unnatural Selection onward, however. US is a great rocker and an even better live song, while MK Ultra is the Muse we know and love. I Belong to You was a guilty pleasure from the start and remains so. It's not a typical Muse song, and it gets a little silly in parts, but it's undeniably sexy. While I don't think Exogenesis is the best thing Muse has ever done to close an album, it's still a grand theme that ends the album on an epic note. I'd say The Resistance is a 7 on a good day and a 6 at worst, which is one or two points lower than I'd give it upon its initial release, but it's not a disaster. Possibly Muse's worst album, but still not a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astronoma Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I remember listening to the 30 second preview of Undisclosed Desires and not being able to listen to it all. I died a little inside when I heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted August 25, 2010 Author Share Posted August 25, 2010 Wow, time flies. I recall when we were first getting track names leaked. Over the past year, I feel some songs on the album that I liked at first haven't aged very well. To be specific, I'm referring to the three-song run of Resistance, Undisclosed Desires, and United States of Eurasia (and Guiding Light, but that was crap from Day One). Whoever said the first half of the album is weaker hit the nail on the head. Uprising is a decent enough mainstream hit in spite of the fact that it's one of the weaker album openers and live openers. I first thought of Resistance as a superior version of Starlight, but while I still find it a decent song, it's certainly indicative of Muse's turn toward unabashed cheese. UD, while certainly an interesting shift in direction for Muse, has become boring, and I hope they veer away from the R&B stuff in the future. USOE is over-the-top in too silly of a manner, regardless of whether you think Muse should be over-the-top in general. And Guiding Light...yeeeeeah... I still really enjoy everything from Unnatural Selection onward, however. US is a great rocker and an even better live song, while MK Ultra is the Muse we know and love. I Belong to You was a guilty pleasure from the start and remains so. It's not a typical Muse song, and it gets a little silly in parts, but it's undeniably sexy. While I don't think Exogenesis is the best thing Muse has ever done to close an album, it's still a grand theme that ends the album on an epic note. I'd say The Resistance is a 7 on a good day and a 6 at worst, which is one or two points lower than I'd give it upon its initial release, but it's not a disaster. Possibly Muse's worst album, but still not a disaster. I agree with you on the last bit, I don't like BHaR or The Resistance anywhere near as much as Absolution or Origin but neither are complete disasters. An album full of Resistance/Guiding Light/Neutron Star Collision supplemented with bizzare over the top stuff like a verse in French might just clinch it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom//P Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I've always felt most of the songs feel disjointed - they don't flow right. Especially the song 'Resistance.' Plus I think most sound unfinished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3ker Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 When I first heard it I completely fell in love with it and it almost turned into my favourite muse album. Now... I still like it but not as much as I used to. I think the problem with TR's aging is the fact that it has too many pop songs. And pop songs can be really attractive for some time but it's simplicity reduces the lifespan of an album, if you know what I mean (and I'm not saying that simplicity in music isn't good). It also feels a bit weird hearing Exogenesis after IBTY. Actually it feels weird to have Exogenesis in TR. It should have been like a CD2 or a separate EP release. I think that another problem is that people (me included) tend to look at this record like a standard album, but it's not. It's more like a playlist that flows really well (some may not agree with this, but yeah...I think it flows really well, except for IBTY-exogenesis). Still, I like all of the songs but Guiding Light is with no doubt the weakest one. Uprising, MK Ultra, Unnatural Selection, Exogenesis are key tracks (the first 3 became monsters live). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davinq Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 When I first heard it I completely fell in love with it and it almost turned into my favourite muse album. Now... I still like it but not as much as I used to. I think the problem with TR's aging is the fact that it has too many pop songs. And pop songs can be really attractive for some time but it's simplicity reduces the lifespan of an album, if you know what I mean (and I'm not saying that simplicity in music isn't good). It also feels a bit weird hearing Exogenesis after IBTY. Actually it feels weird to have Exogenesis in TR. It should have been like a CD2 or a separate EP release. I think that another problem is that people (me included) tend to look at this record like a standard album, but it's not. It's more like a playlist that flows really well (some may not agree with this, but yeah...I think it flows really well, except for IBTY-exogenesis). Still, I like all of the songs but Guiding Light is with no doubt the weakest one. Uprising, MK Ultra, Unnatural Selection, Exogenesis are key tracks (the first 3 became monsters live). If I could like this post Facebook-style, I would. The only songs I can still stand are Uprising, MK, and Overture. UD and US are okay, and the rest are meh, meh, meh, and I include the second two parts of Exo in that verdict. Redemption would have been so much better at a different part of the album, and it just does not flow well. Initially, I really enjoyed the album a lot, and thought it better than BHAR, but a year on, it is quite easily their worst album. MUSE CAN'T WRITE POP SONGS FOR SHIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I still love it, all of it infact with the exception of Guiding Light ofc . - Uprising is immense live, anthemic. - Resistance is Muse-by-numbers, it's so-so. - Undisclosed Desires is excellent, it just doesn't work live. - United States Of Eurasia has everything that makes Muse Muse. - Guiding Light... - Unnatural Selection is Muse doing a heavy track by numbers, the bridge section is fantastic. - MK Ultra is easily probably the most interesting track they have produced since the OoS era, a great fusion of rock and electronic influences. - I Belong To You is my personal favourite these days, it sounds like the quirky, fun Muse of 1999/2000, really harks back to Showbiz. - Exogenesis is magisterial, it makes me wish Muse would just get their heads down an pursue a cohesive, thematic classical-come-prog crossover album, not just for one piece of music amongst a number of genres. I'll give it 8.5/10, on par with Origin Of Symmetry and Absolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I still love it, all of it infact with the exception of Guiding Light ofc . - Uprising is immense live, anthemic. - Resistance is Muse-by-numbers, it's so-so. - Undisclosed Desires is excellent, it just doesn't work live. - United States Of Eurasia has everything that makes Muse Muse. - Guiding Light... - Unnatural Selection is Muse doing a heavy track by numbers, the bridge section is fantastic. - MK Ultra is easily probably the most interesting track they have produced since the OoS era, a great fusion of rock and electronic influences. - I Belong To You is my personal favourite these days, it sounds like the quirky, fun Muse of 1999/2000, really harks back to Showbiz. - Exogenesis is magisterial, it makes me wish Muse would just get their heads down an pursue a cohesive, thematic classical-come-prog crossover album, not just for one piece of music amongst a number of genres. I'll give it 8.5/10, on par with Origin Of Symmetry and Absolution. I pretty much agree with this. MK ULTRA was probably the biggest surprise for me on the album because it was such a good merge of rock and electronic, I could easily listen to an album full of songs like it. I think Muse were spot on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Personally its the worst album they've created. (Bar MK) But I guess it's just down to personal tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I genuinely think I Belong To You is the best song on it these days, I love the quirkiness - it doesn't feel forced or poppy for the sake of being poppy like Resistance, Guiding Light and Neutron Star Collision do. And it's got clarinet. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Ryanbows Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I used to think it was pretty good, now it's my second favorite Muse album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I genuinely think I Belong To You is the best song on it these days, I love the quirkiness - it doesn't feel forced or poppy for the sake of being poppy like Resistance, Guiding Light and Neutron Star Collision do. And it's got clarinet. Win. IBTY is pretty much battling with Overture for best on the album for me, both of them are also pretty high on the list of best Muse songs for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigapoodle Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 It's my least favorite but it's still good. I don't like IBTY, US, GL, or Cross-Pollunation, but the rest are alright/good/great. Uprising Redemption Undisclosed Desires Resistance MK Ultra Overture USOE US Cross-Pollunation GL It's a solid album to me. However the tour for it is obviously another story entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabacr 31770 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I wanted to be one of the parade saying it's rubbish at the start, but it's grown on me. Though it needs my mods to be awesome. This is how it goes. 1. We Are The Universe (fan made studio version)- Epic intro, just sets the tone for the album. Really adds to it as a whole 2. Uprising (extended live outro)- I love this song. It's great, a real sing/clap along, it'll be in the setlists a while, good. Outro though, just tops it, epic. I don't know why it's seen as commercialised, it's not that bad? 3. Resistance- This is actually, I've decided, a modern Starlight. And I like it. Especially the we must run part. I don't think it'll stay on the setlists, though the intro/outro live are beautiful. But we need Matt back on the piano tbh. 4/5. Helsinki Jam/MK Jam- These two jams don't fit on the album at all, but they are so epic. From the crashing drums of Helsinki to the thudding bass of MK, they are both fantastic. The jams really work live, I hope they stay and we see more and more of them with future tours. Is there going to be a new one for after the stadium tour? We hope. 6. Undisclosed Desires- Yes, it's not Muse, but I like it. It will stay on the setlists, Matt's always saying it's his favourite track on the album. It works live, though that keytar. Bit far. Cool though. 7. United States of Eurasia- A very good track, great live, will stay on the setlists. I haven't listened to it as much as I should, and so haven't got much heart for it yet. 8. Guiding Light- Gets far too much stick. Seriously, I like this track. Yes, it's not typical Muse, but I think it's quite powerful, especially the chorus where it breaks down and goes quieter. I would be surprised to see it off the setlists, but neither would I be surprised to see it stay. Very good singalong live, and the streamers are 9. Unnatural Selection- I love this song, but rips of New Born a fair bit. The main riff isn't that great, though the middle bit is eargasmic. I think this will be dropped from setlists unfortunately, though kept in the arsenal and played at a similar ratio of frequentness to Map of the Problematique 10. MK Ultra- Awesome song, great live. The breakdown at the middle with the strings is epic, and that in the middle has me headbanging ridiculously every time. 11. I Belong To You- Catchy, a bit of Endlessly there (as in same idea). Not played in the setlists very often, and I think it'll probably go. Not too bad actually. 12. Soaked (wrong album I know)- I like this song, very much USoE in the main riff, though it's not a favourite. Can't really write much about setlists here. 13. Exogenesis- Absolutely phenomenal, the pinnacle of Muse's career. It is amazing. Part 1 is the most powerful in my opinion, and I love part 2. Part 3 is beautiful but doesn't stand out. But as a whole, the symphony is unbelievably good. Destroys any past doubts about the album. No songs have any riffs put on the end live like Map, SS and New Born. I think live, MK Ultra should have ending riffs and possibly Unnatural Selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiko Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I tried posting earlier, but there were server problems apparently. Basically Exogenesis and USoE are brilliant. Uprising, Undisclosed Desires and MK Ultra are great. Guiding light is ok, but nothing to scream about. Resistance and I Belong to You continue to get worse with each listen and Unnatural Selection has always been a disapointment to me. Overall i'd put it just in front of Showbiz as their 4th best/2nd worst album. Origin and Black Holes are still the most exciting and crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethemuse Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 While I think I like it a little less than when it first came out, it's still a far better album than BHaR. I still really like MK Ultra, Uprising and I Belong to You, and still really don't like Guiding Light. I used to love Resistance, but it's gone down in my mind since. Exogenesis I can never really decide. I think it's a very good piece of music, but it could have been better. Undisclosed Desires is far better in studio than live, although I enjoyed it at Sheffield in a 'closed' place. Maybe outdoors it just loses it. USoE is just bonkers, and Unnatural Selection just seems a bit bland. When it came out, I'd probably have given it 8/10. Now, closer to 7/10, but it's still got some of my favourite songs on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuso Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Never listen to it. Doesn't compare to BHaR or Abso. I only bother with UD or MK Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saracene Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Still my favourite Muse album. It's fun, vibrant, I like the schizophrenic mix of styles and think that the album flows very well despite it, which is an impressive achievement. Even the songs I'm not that crazy about individually (Guiding Light, MK Ultra) still add something to the whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBellamyist Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Uprising was okay at first, but has grown on me, especially after seeing it live/hearing the outro. It's pretty good. Resistance used to be one of the top songs on the album for me, now it's old and boring, except for the last part. UD is alright. Backing vocals at the end are tremendous. United States of Eurasia is okay, not really anything special. Guiding Light is very sub-par. Unnatural Selection, I just don't like; it's so bland. I used to love it, especially the "oceaaaan, oooooooooocean, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCEAAAAAN!" part. Now the song's alright. MK Ultra is one of the three stand-outs of the album. Hits a hard-rock theme that you could see OoS in. I Belong to You is another standout. Very different, and executed well. I just like it, can't figure out why. Exogenesis is the gleaming diamond of the album. I don't know why everyone likes Overture more than Redemption though. If I were to rank, them, it'd be in reverse order of the album. Redemption is fucking be-a-utiful. Overall, I liked it at the beginning. It was tied with BHaR for third among albums, ahead of Showbiz. Now, BHaR has won. Okay until the last three songs. Great songs include MK, IBTY, Exo; Decent songs include everything but Guiding Light. Nothing on the album hits the Abso/OoS standard though. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutDaFucksy Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 MK Ultra Unnatural Selection United States of Eurasia Overture Redemption Cross-Pollination Uprising Resistance I Belong To You Undisclosed Desires Guiding Light Still my second least-favourite Muse album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurellama Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I'm probably the only person that favourites UD. Bombasticity is a word and favourite is a verb now. No, I think it's one of Muse's best songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jessychickin Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Imho, it took me quite a while to get used to it, I was instantly taken with the exogenesis symphony, but everything else I was unsure about. Then after a few more listens it grew on me, love it now & happy birthday to it on the 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Ryanbows Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 No, I think it's one of Muse's best songs As do I, I don't see how everyone seems to hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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