Hullabaloo/OOS Tone

[daveno1]

Hey just a few questions.

 

I have always preffered Matts tone in the earlier days especially Hullabaloo era.

 

I Believe a cranked dsl and motherbucker was the key to this, is this correct?

 

Does he have his phase 90 on the slowest setting as part of his tone? It sounds to me thats theres a slight phase throughout most of the Hullabaloo dvd. Altho that could also be his sweep echo from dl4

 

Oh and anyone know what channels he actually uses to get that sound?

 

Is it the lead 1 or lead 2? and for his cleans is it the crunch channel?

 

Any help would be appreciated cheers

[teej212]

dont be foolish. everyone knows the core to the Bellamy sound is twisty kaoss pads and that bright light on the front of his guitar.

 

amps and pickups have nothing to do with it

[gunnerthekiwi]

dont be foolish. everyone knows the core to the Bellamy sound is twisty kaoss pads and that bright light on the front of his guitar.

 

amps and pickups have nothing to do with it

 

Nice post bro.

[daveno1]

Hope that was some "trying to be funny but not" response and not a serious answer =0

[Musclemuse00]

Well on the oos album he recorded most of that with his piezo pup on his silver and black mansons. For the live setup he was using a Marshall Jcm 2000, 90% of the time he used 1 channel which had volume on full (or very high) with gain really low, for more dist he used the Fuzz factory, The phaser sound is the mxr phase 90 usally on slow but sometimes would use it with the FF feedback and would shift the phaser between slow and fast. I didnt like the hullaballo tone tho, too thin and nasal, most of the noise was from chris with that punchy bass sound because his bass went through a guitar and bass rig.

Live he used the motherbucker as apposed to the piezo, with the DL4 and whammey as other effects. He uses a sweep echo on the Bliss intro which is a like a delay phaser hybrid.

[daveno1]

Everyone says he uses volume really high and gain really low

 

But if u have heard hullabaloo theres shit loads of gain haha

[james90]

Everyone says he uses volume really high and gain really low

 

But if u have heard hullabaloo theres shit loads of gain haha

 

nah matt said that back in 2000 i think when he had this sort of sound

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ37or7JRTw

 

same amp, just different settings really (the guitar probably had an effect on the sound too)

[Hopix]

Hope that was some "trying to be funny but not" response and not a serious answer =0

 

Yes it was! It's common place here.

[Musclemuse00]

well I have an interview with matt in guitar magazine from 2002 and thats what he said, he also mentioned working with marshall on the mode 4. On hullabaloo the clean channel as it were has really low gain, the micro cuts verse is a good example of this, all other heavier gain/dist is coming from his Fuzz factory, he seldom used a complete clean channel, unintended and maybe some parts of citizen erased are clean.

[haze015]

well I have an interview with matt in guitar magazine from 2002 and thats what he said, he also mentioned working with marshall on the mode 4. On hullabaloo the clean channel as it were has really low gain, the micro cuts verse is a good example of this, all other heavier gain/dist is coming from his Fuzz factory, he seldom used a complete clean channel, unintended and maybe some parts of citizen erased are clean.

 

He's using a lot of gain from the Marshall, just turns down the guitar's volume for "clean" parts.

 

If it was the Fuzz Factory into a loud amp, he would have had closer to a Hendrix/Cream era Clapton sort of sound, or oscillating constantly, or heavily gated. Also, Citizen Erased, Hyper Music and Agitated were all heavily distorted, despite not having the Fuzz Factory in the guitars used and the tone didn't change massively.

[tomrulez]

I'm pretty sure I've got his tone from back the nailed with my DSL.

[Flump]

Everyone says he uses volume really high and gain really low

 

But if u have heard hullabaloo theres shit loads of gain haha

 

He also definitely used 2 channels in the Hullabaloo DVD. It's extremely apparent on Muscle Museum.

[G.M.K]

it must also be said though...he used this type of mic...and that type of mic.... and it was processed with this kind of processer etc.. there is pretty substanstial difference(not massive but still) difference between sound you ear hears off your own amp and the sound a microphone hears right up close to Matt Bellamy's guitar cabs. Moral of the story? Use Amplitube or something!

[Musclemuse00]

Dont forget Chris makes a lot of noise on that bass as its run through a bass and guitar rig, hes louder than Matt sometimes, he does use the marshall dist when not using a Manson plus he uses the ff a lot because he makes the oscialltion (splelling?) sounds on a lot of the songs. In that period he used that 1 channel 90% of the time, its gotten more complicated since then

[haze015]

Dont forget Chris makes a lot of noise on that bass as its run through a bass and guitar rig, hes louder than Matt sometimes, he does use the marshall dist when not using a Manson plus he uses the ff a lot because he makes the oscialltion (splelling?) sounds on a lot of the songs. In that period he used that 1 channel 90% of the time, its gotten more complicated since then

 

Chris doesn't run through a guitar rig for a start and the distorted bass is obvious in the mix.

 

The first channel on the DSL doesn't have that sort of gain and definitely using the second channel. Prior to the more distorted sound on the OOS tour, it was a lot cleaner and using the clean channel makes more sense. Matt isn't always accurate or honest in interviews

[tomrulez]

This is as close to his tone as I can get using just the DSL, It's about 90% there.

 

 

 

 

[Xut]

This is as close to his tone as I can get using just the DSL, It's about 90% there.

 

 

 

 

SOUNDCLIPS or it didnt happen

[Phill]

a lot of the hullabaloo sound is in the motherbucker too. that and the dsl and you should be all set.

[Xut]

a lot of the hullabaloo sound is in the motherbucker too. that and the dsl and you should be all set.

 

Indeed, pickups can vary between types and stuff, but nothing is really comparable with the massive output from the motherbucker.