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Was thinking it would be so awesome to travel back in time to see on e of the BHaR gigs.

 

I would’ve happily gone to every single gig from 2006-2008 and I think about that so often that it might be more accurate to say it haunts me

 

Made even worse knowing how relatively close my becoming a fan was to that era. Hell, I was first turned onto their music in 2006 I think but didn’t find out who they were for another 3 years.

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Yeah I get that. I came on board in 2008 and I wasn't able to persuade anyone for a trip to V Festival (which given the stage show and setlist would've been a hell of a debut). Still, I'm happy to have seen as many as I have done.

 

I still think they sounded better live on the Absolution Tour than Black Holes, mind.

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Yeah I get that. I came on board in 2008 and I wasn't able to persuade anyone for a trip to V Festival (which given the stage show and setlist would've been a hell of a debut). Still, I'm happy to have seen as many as I have done.

 

I still think they sounded better live on the Absolution Tour than Black Holes, mind.

 

Absolution Tour was their best. My cousin went to night 2 of Earl's Court '04 and said it was the best gig they've ever been to.

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Absolution Tour was their best. My cousin went to night 2 of Earl's Court '04 and said it was the best gig they've ever been to.

Isn't that the one where there's an XFM broadcast on YouTube, and which TSP/Stockholm made the Tour DVD?

 

That was pretty fucking awesome stuff.

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Wasn't gonna bother updating, but the Black Holes section looks a lot less sadder

Showbiz

Showbiz

Unintended

 

Origin of Symmetry

New Born

Bliss (x3)

Hyper Music

Plug In Baby (x6)

Feeling Good

Citizen Erased

 

Dead Star/In Your World

Dead Star (x2)

 

Absolution

Time Is Running Out (x5)

Stockholm Syndrome (x2)

Interlude/Hysteria (x3)

Blackout

 

Black Holes and Revelations

Take a Bow

Starlight (x6)

Supermassive Black Hole (x6)

Knights of Cydonia (x6)

 

The Resistance

Uprising (x6)

Resistance (x2)

Undisclosed Desires (x2)

United States of Eurasia

Guiding Light

 

The 2nd Law

Supremacy

Madness (x3)

Panic Station

Survival

Follow Me

Animals

Liquid State

Unsustainable (x3)

Isolated System (x3)

 

Drones

Dead Inside (x2)

Psycho (x5)

Mercy (x3)

Reapers (x3)

Revolt

The Globalist

The Handler

 

Simulation Theory

Algorithm (x2) + AR (x1)

The Dark Side (x2)

Pressure (x2)

Propaganda

Break It To Me (x2)

Thought Contagion (x2)

Dig Down Gospel

 

B-Sides/Misc

Fury

The Groove

Metal Medley (x2 (including one with Dead Star))

 

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I’d totally forgotten Dead Star was in the RAH medley. I’d said a few times in the queues for this tour that I was surprised they weren’t doing it. Mad one on the whole with Micro Cuts as well, starting to get flashbacks of how much my neck was hurting by that point :chuckle:

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I totally called they were gonna drop the Dead Cuts part too but I figured it would only be for the United States not everywhere.

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I've been to their shows in Kuala Lumpur (2007) and Singapore (2010 and 2015).

Showbiz:

Sunburn

Origin of Symmetry:

New Born
Plug in Baby
Citizen Erased
Feeling Good

Absolution:

Apocalypse Please
Time is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
Interlude
Hysteria
Butterflies & Hurricanes

Black Holes and Revelations:

Take a Bow
Starlight
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Soldier's Poem
Invincible
Assassin
Hodoo
Knight of Cydonia

The Resistance:

Uprising
Resistance
Undisclosed Desires
United States of Eurasia
Unnatural Selection
MK Ultra
Starlight
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 1 (Overture)

The 2nd Law:

Madness
The 2nd Law: Unsustainable

Drones:

Dead Inside
[Drill Sergeant]
Psycho
Mercy
Reapers

Others:

Helsinki Jam
Nishe
Munich Jam

 

My wish list to hear live:

Muscle Museum
Bliss
Unintended
Exo-Politics
The Small Print
In Your World
Map of Your Head
Endlessly
Something Human
Get Up and Fight

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  • SHOWBIZ:
  • Sunburn
  • Unintended
  •  
  • ORIGIN:
  • Bliss ( x2 )
  • Plug In Baby ( x3 )
  • Feeling Good
  •  
  • ABSOLUTION:
  • Time Is Running Out ( x3 )
  • Stockholm Syndrome  ( x2 )
  • Interlude  ( x2 )
  • Hysteria ( x2 )
  • Blackout
  •  
  • BLACK HOLES:
  • Take A Bow
  • Starlight ( x3 )
  • Supermassive Black Hole ( x3 )
  • Assassin
  • Knights ( x3 )
  •  
  • RESISTANCE:
  • Uprising ( x3 )
  • Resistance
  • Undisclosed Desires ( x2 )
  • Guiding Light
  • Unnatural Selection
  •  
  • 2ND LAW:
  • Supremacy
  • Madness ( x2 )
  • Panic Station
  • Prelude
  • Survival
  • Follow Me
  • Animals
  • Liquid State
  • Unsustainable  ( x2 )
  • Isolated System
  •  
  • DRONES:
  • [Drill Sergeant]
  • Psycho ( x2 )
  • Mercy
  • Reapers
  •  
  • SIMULATION:
  • Algorithm
  • The Dark Side
  • Pressure
  • Propaganda
  • Break It To Me
  • Thought Contagion
  • Algorithm (Alt Version)
  • Dig Down (Acoustic gospel)
  •  
  • B-SIDES
  • Dead Star
  • Futurism
  • Agitated
  •  
  • OTHERS:
  • Dracula Mountain Jam
  • Montpellier Jam
  • Houston Jam
  • Metal Medley
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Showbiz

 

Cave

Sunburn (x3)

Unintended

 

 

Origin of Symmetry

 

Bliss (x4)

Citizen Erased

Feeling Good (x5)

Hyper Music

New Born (x7)

Micro Cuts (x2)

Plug In Baby (x14)

Space Dementia

 

 

Absolution

 

Apocalypse Please

Blackout

Butterflies and Hurricanes (x2)

Hysteria (x12)

Interlude (x7)

Sing for Absolution

Stockholm Syndrome (x9)

Time is Running Out (x14)

 

 

Black Holes and Revelations

 

Invincible (x2)

Knights of Cydonia (x13)

Map of the Problematique (x8)

Soldier's Poem

Starlight (x14)

Supermassive Black Hole (x14)

Take a Bow (x5)

 

 

The Resistance

 

Exogenesis: Symphony I (Overture) (x3)

Exogenesis: Symphony III (Redemption)

Guiding Light (x2)

Resistance (x5)

Undisclosed Desires (x7)

United States of Eurasia (x3)

Unnatural Selection

Uprising (x12)

 

 

The 2nd Law

 

Animals (x3)

Explorers (x2)

Follow Me (x4)

Liquid State (x5)

Madness (x7)

Panic Station (x5)

Supremacy (x4)

Survival (x4)

The 2nd Law: Isolated System (x5)

The 2nd Law: Unsustainable (x6)

Unsustainable (x4)

 

Drones

 

Dead Inside (x2)

Mercy (x4)

Psycho (x4)

Reapers (x2)

The Globalist

The Handler (x2)

 

Simulation Theory

Algorithm (x2)

Algorithm (Alternate Version) (x2)

Break It To Me (x2)

Dig Down (x2)

Pressure (x2)

Propaganda (x2)

The Dark Side (x2)

Thought Contagion (x2)

 

 

Other

 

Agitated (x2)

Dead Star (x2)

Can't Take My Eyes Off You

Futurism

Fury

Nishe (x2)

Pray (High Valyrian) (x2)

Yes Please (x3)

 

A bit of an update with the new album ^_^

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Showbiz

Showbiz

Sunburn

 

Origin of Symmetry

Plug in Baby x5

Citizen Erased

Micro Cuts

 

Absolution

Apocalypse Please

Stockholm Syndrome x3

Time is Running Out x5

Interlude & Hysteria x5

Blackout

 

Black Holes and Revelations

Take a Bow x3

Supermassive Black Hole x5

Knights of Cydonia x5

Starlight x5

Map of the Problematique

 

The Resistance

Uprising x5

Resistance

Undisclosed Desires

PUUUUUUURE HEAAAAAAAAAAAARTS

 

The 2nd Law

Supremacy

Madness x5

Animals

Liquid State

Panic Station

Survival

Follow Me

The 2nd Law: Unsustainable

The 2nd Law: Isolated System x4

 

Drones

Psycho x4

Reapers x2

Dead Inside x2

The Handler x2

The Globalist

Mercy x4

 

Simulation Theory

Algorithm

Algorithm AR

Pressure

The Dark Side

Propaganda

Break it to Me

Thought Contagion

Dig Down

Dig Down AG

 

Covers

Feeling Good x2

Back in Black (w/ Brian Johnson)

MWAH x5

Dracula Mountain

 

Other

Agitated

Yes Please

Metal Medley

 

Jams

Monty Jam

Munich Jam x3

Houston Jam

Edited by 01FromFinland

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Muscle Museum

Showbiz

Unintended

 

New Born x4

Bliss x4

Space Dementia

Hyper Music

Plug in Baby x8

Citizen Erased x4

Micro Cuts x2

Screenager

Darkshines

Feeling Good x3

Megalomania

 

Dead Star x3

Futurism x2

 

Time is Running Out x7

Sing for Absolution

Stockholm Syndrome x5

Interlude x5

Hysteria x7

Blackout

Butterflies and Hurricnaes

Ruled by Secrecy

 

Take a Bow x2

Starlight x6

Supermassive Black Hole x7

Map of the Problematique x2

Assassin x2

Knights of Cydonia x8

 

Uprising x7

Resistance x3

Undisclosed Desires x4

United States of Eurasia x2

Guiding Light

Unnatural Selection x2

MK Ultra

Overture

 

Supremacy

Madness x3

Panic Station

Survival

Follow Me

Animals

Liquid State

Unsustainable x2

Isolated System x2

 

Dead Inside x2

[Drill Sergeant]

Psycho x4

Mercy x3

Reapers x3

The Handler x2

[JFK]

The Globalist

 

Algorithm

Algorithm (Alternate Reality Version)

The Dark Side

Pressure

Propaganda

Breat It to Me

Thought Contagion

Dig Down (Acoustic Gospel Version)

 

Agitated x2

Yes Please

Nishe

Fury

Easily

Glorious

Pray (Playback)

 

Helsinki Jam

MK Jam

Monty Jam

Munich Jam x3

Houston Jam

Dracula Mountain

"Metal Medley"

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Posted (edited)
  •  

Updated:

 

Showbiz:

 

Sunburn (x2)

Cave (Piano-version)

Unintended

Agitated

Yes Please

 

Origin:

 

Plug In Baby (x7)

Feeling Good (x3)

New Born (x2)

Bliss

Citizen Erased

Micro Cuts

 

Absolution:

 

Hysteria (x7)

Time Is Running Out (x7)

Stockholm Syndrome (x5)

Apocalypse Please

Blackout

 

Black Holes:

 

Supermassive Black Hole (x7)

Knights Of Cydonia (x7)

Starlight (x7)

Map Of The Problematique (x3)

Take A Bow (x2)

 

Resistance:

 

Uprising (x7)

Resistance (x4)

Undisclosed Desires (x4)

Exogenesis Overture (x2)

United States Of Eurasia (x2)

Guiding Light (x2)

Unnatural Selection

 

2nd Law:

 

Madness (x4)

Isolated System (x3)

Unsustainable (x3)

Survival (x2)

Supremacy (x2)

Animals (x2)

Follow Me (x2)

Panic Station (x2)

Liquid State (x2)

Explorers

 

Drones:

 

Psycho (x3)

Mercy (x3)

Reapers (x2)

The Handler (x2)

Dead Inside (x2)

The Globalist

 

Simulation Theory:

 

Algorithm

The Dark Side

Pressure

Propaganda

Break It To Me

Thought Contagion

Dig Down (Gospel)

 

 

 

Riffs, intros etc. (approximately - according to musewiki):

Metal Medley

Nishe

Pray

Drones (x2)

We Are The Universe

Algorithm (AR-version)

JFK (x2)

Drill Sergeant (x2)

Helsinki Jam

Kaoss Jam

MK Jam

Montpellier Jam (x2)

Munich Jam (x2)

Houston Jam

Man With The Harmonica (x7)

Who Knows Who (x3)

Headup (x3)

Prelude (x2)

Interlude (x7)

War Within A Breath (x2)

Etudes Simples nr. 6

Township Rebellion (x2)

Back In Black (x3)

STT Interstitial 1,2 & 3

Voodoo Child (Slight Return)

House Of The Rising Sun

Close Encounters

Maggie's Farm

Wild Thing

Burning Bridges

Micro Cuts Outro

Dracula Mountain

Freedom

Endless Nameless

Edited by Big Pasi
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Showbiz:

Unintended

 

Origin Of Symmetry:

Plug In Baby x3

Feeling Good

Citizen Erased

 

Absolution:

Time is Running Out x3

Stockholm Syndrome

Interlude x3

Hysteria x3

Blackout

Intro

Apocalypse Please

 

Black Holes and Revelations:

Starlight x3

Supermassive Black Hole x3

Map of the Problematique

Knights of Cydonia x3

Take a Bow

 

The Resistance:

Uprising x3

Resistance

Undisclosed Desires x2

Guiding Light

 

The 2nd Law:

Supremacy x2

Madness x3

Panic Station

Survival

Follow Me

Animals

Explorers

Liquid State

The 2nd Law: Unsustainable x2

The 2nd Law: Isolated System

Prelude

 

Drones:

Dead Inside

Drill Sergeant x2

Psycho x2

Mercy x2

Reapers

The Handler

 

Simulation Theory:

Algorithm

The Dark Side

Pressure

Propaganda

Break it to Me

Thought Contagion

Algorithm (Alternate Reality Version) (shortened)

Dig Down (Acoustic Gospel Version)

 

Others:

Dracula Mountain

Monty Jam

Munich Jam

Pray (shortened) (playback)

Houston Jam (Futurism- Unnatural Selection- Micro Cuts)

Metal Medley (Stockholm Syndrome- Assassin- Reapers- The Handler- New Born)

Edited by FlorAmarillo

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Posted (edited)

Showbiz

Sunburn x2

Muscle Museum

Falling Down

Cave

Showbiz x2

Unintended x3

 

OOS

New Born x7 (+4x Medley Version)

Bliss x7

Space Dementia x2

Hyper Music

Plug In Baby x21

Citizen Erased x3

Micro Cuts

Screenager

Darkshines

Feeling Good x9

Megalomania

 

Absolution

Apocalypse Please x2

Time Is Running Out x22

Sing For Absolution

Stockholm Syndrome x12 (+4x medley version)

Interlude x17

Hysteria x18

Blackout x2

Butterflies & Hurricanes x5

Ruled By Secrecy

 

BH&R

Take A Bow x9

Starlight x22

Supermassive Black Hole x22

Map of the Problematique x9

Soldiers Poem

Invincible

Assassin x4 (+4 medley version)

Knights of Cydonia x23

 

Resistance

Uprising x21

Resistance x12

Undisclosed Desires x11

United States of Eurasia x4

Guiding Light x5

Unnatural Selection x4

MK Ultra

I Belong To You

Exogenesis Part 1 x3

 

The 2nd Law

Supremacy x6

Madness x15

Panic Station x4

Prelude x7

Survival x4

Follow Me x4

Animals x4

Explorers x3

Save Me

Liquid State x3

Unsustainable x8

Isolated System x12

 

Drones

Dead Inside x8

Drill Sergeant x9

Psycho x12

Mercy x11

Reapers x4 (+4x Medley Version)

The Handler x6 (+4x Medley Version)

JFK x4

Revolt

The Globalist x5

Drones x5 (8 if you include twice at each arena gig)

 

Simulation Theory

Algorithm x4

The Dark Side x4

Pressure x4

Propaganda x3

Break It To Me x4

Thought Contagion x4

Dig Down x2

The Void x1

Algorithm AR Verison x3

Dig Down Gospel Version x3

 

Others

Yes Please

Dead Star x2 (+1x Medley Version)

Futurism

Fury

Glorious

Easily

Neutron Star Collision

New Kind of Kick

Pray x3

Edited by GSMU7
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Updated after 2 Simulation Theory shows. I DID NOT expect to hear The Void 😱

Showbiz:
Sunburn x2
Unintended
Showbiz
Muscle Museum

Origin of Symmetry:
Bliss x2
Plug In Baby x7
New Born x4
Feeling Good
Citizen Erased

Absolution:
Interlude x7
Hysteria x7
Apocalypse Please x2
Time Is Running Out x7
Butterflies and Hurricanes x2
Blackout
Stockholm Syndrome
Sing For Absolution

Black Holes and Revelations:
Supermassive Black Hole x7
Starlight x7
Take A Bow x3
Knights of Cydonia x8
Assassin

The Resistance:
Resistance x4
Uprising x7
Undisclosed Desires x2
Guiding Light

The 2nd Law:
Isolated System x3
Prelude x3
Madness x7
Unsustainable x4
Supremacy x2
Panic Station x2
Animals x2
Explorers
Liquid State x2
Follow Me x2
Survival x2

Drones:
Drones x2
Psycho x5
Dead Inside x3
The Handler
JFK x2
Reapers x2
The Globalist x2
Mercy x5

Simulation Theory:
Algorithm x2
Pressure x2
Break It To Me x2
Propaganda x2
The Dark Side x2
Thought Contagion x2
Dig Down x2
Algorithm (Alternate Version) x2
The Void

B-sides:
Dead Star
Easily
Glorious
Fury
Yes Please
Futurism

Other:
Munich Jam x4
Monty Jam x2
Dracula Mountain
Houston Jam x2
Pray x2
Metal Medley (Stockholm Syndrome / Assassin / Reapers / The Handler / New Born) x2

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7 shows and no Map?

These ‘muse’ fellas really make ya feel sick sometimes

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13 minutes ago, Jobby said:

7 shows and no Map?

These ‘muse’ fellas really make ya feel sick sometimes

8 shows actually, lol. And you have absolutely no idea how frustrating it was to get Hysteria every time back when they did the Map/Hysteria rotation... I've accepted it by now though, I can't complain with what I have seen 😄

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So there we go, the end of ST. Feels like a lot but also short at the same time...idk. Not a whole lot to update since we all know what sets were like but here we are. 25 shows, 1/4 of the way towards 100, 5 countries, 71(ish) songs seen. Bugs ya to miss some stuff like Uno, Falling Down, Explorers, Eternally Missed and Defector which you feel like you should've really seen and probs won't get the opportunity again but just didn't get your arse in gear soon enough or cruelly missed out on tickets. Guess it'd be boring if none of us ever missed out on owt though.

Full play | Partial play | Instrumental/Riff | Playback

Showbiz
Sunburn | [1]
Muscle Museum | [1]
Showbiz | [2]
Unintended | [1]
------------------------
Agitated | [1] [2]
Ashamed | [4]
Host | [1]
Nishe | [1]
Yes Please | [2]

Origin Of Symmetry
New Born | [5] [11]
Bliss | [8]
Space Dementia | [1]
Hyper Music | [2]
Plug In Baby | [24]
Citizen Erased | [6]
Micro Cuts | [2] [1] [13]
Screenager | [1]
Darkshines | [1]
Feeling Good | [4]
Megalomania | [1]
------------------------
Dead Star | [4] [1]
Execution Commentary | [1]
Futurism | [1] [10]
What's He Building? | [1]

Absolution
Intro | [1]
Apocalypse Please | [1]
Time Is Running Out | [24]
Sing For Absolution | [1]
Stockholm Syndrome | [9] [11]
Interlude | [20]
Hysteria | [20]
Blackout | [1]
Butterflies & Hurricanes | [2]
------------------------
Fury | [2]
The Groove | [1]

Black Holes & Revelations
Take A Bow | [15]
Starlight | [23]
Supermassive Black Hole | [24]
Map Of The Problematique | [4]
Assassin | [3] [11]
Knights Of Cydonia | [25]
------------------------
Assassin (Grand Omega Bosses) | [2]
Easily | [1]
Glorious | [1]
Man With A Harmonica | [25]

The Resistance
Uprising | [24]
Resistance | [6]
Undisclosed Desires | [8]
United States Of Eurasia | [2]
Guiding Light | [2]
Unnatural Selection | [1] [10]
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 1 (Overture) | [1]
------------------------
Back In Black |  [19]
We Are The Universe | [2]
Who Knows Who | [5]

The 2nd Law
Supremacy | [1]
Madness | [19]
Panic Station | [1]
Prelude | [17]
Survival | [1]
Follow Me | [1]
Animals | [1]
Liquid State | [1]
Unsustainable | [1] [11] [1]
Isolated System | [10]

Drones
Dead Inside | [8]
[Drill Sergeant] | [17]
Psycho | [21]
Mercy | [19]
Reapers | [7] [11] [4]
The Handler | [7] [11]
[JFK] | [6]
Revolt | [1]
The Globalist | [6]
Drones | [11]

Simulation Theory
Algorithm | [11]
The Dark Side | [11]
Pressure | [11]
Propaganda | [10]
Break It To Me | [11]
Thought Contagion | [11]
Dig Down | [2]
The Void | [2]
------------------------
Algorithm (Alternate Reality Version) | [10]
Dig Down (Acoustic Gospel Version) | [10]
Interstitial 1 | [10]
Interstitial 2 | [10]
Interstitial 3 | [10]
Pray | [10]

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Not end of the year but end of the tour and chances are I'm not seeing another show this year. Time for update.

 

Showbiz:

Sunburn

Showbiz

 

Origin of Symmetry:

New Born x3

Bliss

Plug In Baby x11

Citizen Erased

Feeling Good x2

 

Absolution:

Time Is Running Out x11

Stockholm Syndrome x4

Interlude x11

Hysteria x11

Butterflies & Hurricanes x2

 

Black Holes & Revelations:

Take a Bow x4

Starlight x11

Supermassive Black Hole x11

Map of the Problematique x2

Knights of Cydonia x11

 

The Resistance:

Uprising x11

Resistance x6

Undisclosed Desires x6

United States of Eurasia x4

Guiding Light

Unnatural Selection x2

MK Ultra

Exogenesis Pt. 1

 

The 2nd Law:

Supremacy

Madness x8

Panic Station

Prelude x6

Survival

Follow Me

Animals

Liquid State

The 2nd Law: Unsustainable x4

The 2nd Law: Isolated System x4

 

Drones:

Dead Inside x3

Psycho x7

Mercy x7

The Handler x2

[JFK] x2

Revolt x2

The Globalist x2

Drones x2 (x4?)

 

Simulation Theory

Algorithm x3

The Dark Side x3

Pressure x3

Propaganda x3

Break It To Me x3

Thought Contagion x3

Dig Down x2

Algorithm (alt. reality version) x3

Dig Down (acoustic gospel version) x3

 

Other

Nishe x2

Helsinki Jam x2

Montpelier Jam

Munich Jam x4

We Are The Universe

Stadium Sirens

Back In Black

New Kind of Kick

Houston Jam x2

Metal Medley (Stockholm, Assassin, Reapers (solo), The Handler, New Born, riffs) x3

 

Few notes coming from this:

- At 3 shows all in a year this is the most I've seen Muse in one year.

- Second time being at a Muse show with a boardie (@jonisdead) for San Diego.

- First time taking a personal friend to a Muse show (Oracle) and the only reason I went to said show.

- Second time traveling out of the country to see Muse and it was for their first ever show in Lima which was special.

- I got a stomach virus on the day of that show though which made it less special and I regret not being able to be in the crowd

- I finally saw Bliss (but no falsetto)

- I've seen one verse, the solo, and the outro of Reapers. I've almost seen the whole thing in pieces.

- In 2010 at Oracle I saw Matt noodle about 2 seconds of Enter Sandman. In 2019 at Oracle I finally saw them properly jam it at the end of the Metal Medley.

- The 11th of December of this year will be 10 years since my first time seeing the band.

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2 hours ago, kueller said:

- I finally saw Bliss (but no falsetto)

:awesome:

Everything you’d hoped? Criminal to wait 10 years for such a signature live song (rare as it is over yonder).

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1 hour ago, Jobby said:

Everything you’d hoped?

 

3 hours ago, kueller said:

- I got a stomach virus on the day of that show though which made it less special and I regret not being able to be in the crowd

It could have been under better conditions. As said I would have really loved to have been part of that crowd cause they were going wild but I had to be way off to the side. It sounded wonderful though. The no falsetto came from the fact that being the last show of the tour Matt was noticeably tired by now.

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I also felt kinda bad for those who had their chance to see Showbiz dangle in front of their eyes and then get snatched away.

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