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So I've seen just as many OOS tracks live as I've seen BHAR tracks. Is this the same for most people, or am I just lucky?

 

I'd say it's pretty rare to have seen more BH&R tracks tbh. Excluding seeing the album in full, I've seen 7 songs from Origin (8 if you wanna count Dead Star) compared to 5 from Black Holes - 2 of which I only saw once six years ago. Think I've also seen about 7 from Abso, including Fury and The Groove. Basically, Black Holes needs more love.

 

On another note, hoo boy am I looking forward to updating after this spring/summer. Hoping for 7 or 8 new songs if I'm lucky.

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Why would Origin era songs count (@ both Jobby and Lockeface)? No one considers Nishe part of Showbiz or Popcorn part of The Resistance and those were actually album single b-sides where Dead Star and related weren't. Origin era isn't even an accurate term that I just used.

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Why would Origin era songs count (@ both Jobby and Lockeface)? No one considers Nishe part of Showbiz or Popcorn part of The Resistance and those were actually album single b-sides where Dead Star and related weren't.

 

I was just lumping it in as an option, since a fair amount of people do associate it with that album and might count it. I tend to do my full list by era just to save having too many separate sections so I include Nishe under the Showbiz bracket as well.

 

If you don't wanna count it, that's still 7 songs directly from Origin though.

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Hoping for 7 or 8 new songs if I'm lucky.

 

:LOL::LOL:

 

 

:'(

 

Why would Origin era songs count (@ both Jobby and Lockeface)? No one considers Nishe part of Showbiz or Popcorn part of The Resistance and those were actually album single b-sides where Dead Star and related weren't. Origin era isn't even an accurate term that I just used.

 

I consider Nishe part of Showbiz "era", as well as Agitated, Spiral Static etc

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:LOL::LOL:

 

 

:'(

 

It's actually not that impossible :LOL:

 

I've still got Revolt, The Globalist, Drones (lol) and Defector (got a feeling it might get played a bit more in Europe) to see from the new album. Then there's AP, assuming that sticks around, and the slight possibility of Showbiz, Sunburn or Assassin. I've not got much hope for Assassin though tbh.

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I've also seen more Origin songs than Black Holes ones. 4 to 3.

 

Yeah I've seen more from Abso (4) and Origin (4) than BH&R (3). And the Black Holes songs I've seen have only been the standard - Starlight, SMBH and Knights - which is a shame because it's my favourite album.

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I was disappointed this time around to only hear the Drones songs as new live material. The odds of hearing Citizen Erased or Apocalypse Please were pretty good but instead I heard Map for the 4th time and everything else for the fifth.

 

At previous shows, I've been lucky enough to hear MK Ultra, Unnatural Selection, Nishe, Ruled by Secrecy, Butterflies & Hurricanes and Sunburn along with some other songs that they used to deem worthy of the US (New Born, Stockholm Syndrome). The unfortunate part is that the chances of hearing those older, rarer songs probably go down with each passing tour.

 

I guess that I've heard more from Absolution (5) than BH&R (4) as well. It's just that I hear the BH&R ones every time. The only songs that I've ever heard from Origin are PiB, New Born and Feeling Good.

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I guess that I've heard more from Absolution (5) than BH&R (4) as well. It's just that I hear the BH&R ones every time. The only songs that I've ever heard from Origin are PiB, New Born and Feeling Good.

 

Well look at our Psycho Tour gigs versus the ones over in the UK. Extremely conscious decision to bring out Assassin and AP and play New Born for the US versus Origin or Showbiz since "we don't know it", Bliss is the exception and Hyper Music was definitely a one off sort of thing.

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They had mentioned going in they wanted to slant it towards the albums where they more officially "started" in the US. Why they didn't end up playing some more Absolution though is beyond me but at least Apocalypse Please has become kind of regular as a result.

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Well look at our Psycho Tour gigs versus the ones over in the UK. Extremely conscious decision to bring out Assassin and AP and play New Born for the US versus Origin or Showbiz since "we don't know it", Bliss is the exception and Hyper Music was definitely a one off sort of thing.

 

.... New Born is on Origin

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The problem wasn't what albums the songs were on, but WHICH songs they picked from those albums; a person going to Webster could quite conceivably only heard only one song (The Groove) that they hadn't heard on the prior tour, or would hear on the Drones tour.

NB was a regular T2L rotation, and even Bliss was played at a few early shows, much like this tour.

The T2L tour had arguably older and "less known" songs in Sunburn, Agitated and Yes Please.

 

Saying you're going to stick to the albums people know is one thing, even if I don't agree with it, but then sticking largely to the plethora of massively known radio hits that get played at every single show anyways was a bit, well, shit.

If they really wanted to stick with familiar albums, they should have been throwing in SfA, Assassin, Invincible, etc level shit but instead they still stuck to SONGS that were familiar.

 

And again, just really telling about how they feel about their audience here, especially knowing that people were fighting for a tiny amount of tickets and traveling major distances to see this.

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Saying you're going to stick to the albums people know is one thing, even if I don't agree with it, but then sticking largely to the plethora of massively known radio hits that get played at every single show anyways was a bit, well, shit.

If they really wanted to stick with familiar albums, they should have been throwing in SfA, Assassin, Invincible, etc level shit but instead they still stuck to SONGS that were familiar.

 

Ah, what I would have given to have heard Sing for Absolution instead of Undisclosed Desires and even Invincible instead of Starlight. I would not have missed Hysteria a bit either if they did Assassin instead.

 

Ironically, each of those songs could have been worked into a Drones-themed story line better than the songs they actually played. Imagine Psycho going into Assassin. Invincible could have stood in for Aftermath's position on the album.

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Don't get me wrong, I'd still have rather seen either of the small gigs than the arena one just to see Muse in a better venue like that, but Mayan setlist was far superior to Webster's, and they were both pretty blatantly obviously not anywhere near the caliber of the UK ones.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Fairly happy with two gigs :)

 

Sunburn

Unintended

 

New Born

Bliss

Plug In Baby (x2)

Feeling Good

 

Apocalypse Please

Time Is Running Out (x2)

Stockholm Syndrome

Blackout

Butterflies & Hurricanes

 

Starlight (x2)

Supermassive Black Hole (x2)

Map of the Problematique

Knights of Cydonia (x2)

 

Uprising (x2)

Resistance

Undisclosed Desires (x2...)

Guiding Light

 

Supremacy (x2)

Madness (x2)

Panic Station

Survival

Follow Me

Animals

Liquid State

Unsustainable

Isolated System (x2)

 

Dead Inside

Psycho

Mercy

The Handler

The Globalist

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Drones:

Dead Inside

Psycho

Mercy

Reapers

The Handler

 

The 2nd Law:

Supremacy x7

Madness x6

Panic Station x5

Survival x5

Follow Me x6

Animals x5

Explorers x2

Save Me x3

Liquid State x2

The 2nd Law: Isolated System x4

The 2nd Law: Unsustainable x3

 

The Resistance:

Uprising x13

Resistance x9

Undisclosed Desires x9

United States of Eurasia x7

Guiding Light x7

Unnatural Selection x5

MK Ultra x2

I Belong to You x3

Exogenesis: Symphony, Part 1: Overture x5

 

Black Holes and Revelations:

Take a Bow x10

Starlight x19

Supermassive Black Hole x19

Map of the Problematique x12

Soldier's Poem x5

Invincible x6

Assassin x2

Exo-Politics

City of Delusion x3

Hoodoo x3

Knights of Cydonia x19

 

Absolution:

Apocalypse Please x2

Time Is Running Out x20

Sing for Absolution

Stockholm Syndrome x16

Hysteria x15

Blackout x5

Butterflies & Hurricanes x8

The Small Print

Ruled by Secrecy x2

 

Origin of Symmetry:

New Born x14

Bliss x8

Space Dementia x3

Hyper Music

Plug In Baby x19

Citizen Erased x5

Micro Cuts x4

Screenager

Darkshines

Feeling Good x13

Megalomania

 

Showbiz:

Sunburn x7

Muscle Museum

Showbiz x2

Unintended x6

 

Misc:

Nishe x5

Dead Star x3

Dracula Mountain x3

Man of Mystery x2

Neutron Star Collision (Love Is Forever) x2

Agitated

Forced In

Glorious

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