Shadius Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I do think Screenager is a very beautiful song, it's just after hearing the first 7 songs, and then hearing the percussion in this one, it's so different and drastically experimental that I feel like it doesn't fit too much. However, if I listen to it on it's own then it's fine The Tom Waits-y percusion is makes it so cool, and the chorus has amazing falsetto. People don't like it because it dosn't use conventional major/minor tonality and it turns lots of pop fans off. What is it, harmonic minor or something? I havn't bothered to figure it out or anything. I'd rather have a band trying new interesting things then "same old same old" just to "keep the groove". But that's because I want the musical boundaries pushed all the time and Muse do that! meh. if you wanna hear musical boundaries get pushed muse is hardly the band to do it. hearing the boundaries of popular-rock getting pushed? sure. but music in general? nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarmonyLover Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The Tom Waits-y percusion is makes it so cool, and the chorus has amazing falsetto. People don't like it because it dosn't use conventional major/minor tonality and it turns lots of pop fans off. What is it, harmonic minor or something? I havn't bothered to figure it out or anything. meh. if you wanna hear musical boundaries get pushed muse is hardly the band to do it. hearing the boundaries of popular-rock getting pushed? sure. but music in general? nah. I think conventional pop listeners might as most hear Starlight and will never buy OoS, so nothing to worry about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDracula Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 i hate everyone and everything. i hate this forum. i hate this thread! i hate the person that will write something after me :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemonkey1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 What is it, harmonic minor or something? I havn't bothered to figure it out or anything. Yes, but it's not the harmonic minor you'd expect, which gives it that kinda spooky spanish/flamenco- esque yet experimental feel, It's root note is G, so you'd expect the G harmonic minor (G A Bflat C D Eflat Fsharp), but its actually B harmonic minor (B Csharp D E Fsharp G Asharp) starting on G, but instead of sharpening the seventh, the first note is flattened, essentially the same note, but completely different in conjunction with the rest of the scale, which essentially gives you G harmonic minor with an added Csharp. I hope I didn't bore you too much with that explanation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problemfanatique Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I don't think he meant that. He meant that the song didn't thematically fit in on the album. I know what he means although I like the song. It's better on piano though. It's definately better on the piano, therefore much better live Yes, but it's not the harmonic minor you'd expect, which gives it that kinda spooky spanish/flamenco- esque yet experimental feel, It's root note is G, so you'd expect the G harmonic minor (G A Bflat C D Eflat Fsharp), but its actually B harmonic minor (B Csharp D E Fsharp G Asharp) starting on G, but instead of sharpening the seventh, the first note is flattened, essentially the same note, but completely different in conjunction with the rest of the scale, which essentially gives you G harmonic minor with an added Csharp. I hope I didn't bore you too much with that explanation... Someone's been reading up on their theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ. Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 ? I didn´t know that people hate it. I am confused. I think it is a really beautiful piece of music. I love the guitar-version Tokyo 15.07.2001 + &ftm=18 (for higher quality) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInMonster Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I think it's brilliant way to breakup the sonic heaviness of the first 7 tracks and to transport the listener to to a different place~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Who knows? Why do people eat black pudding? People are idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInMonster Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Who knows? Why do people eat black pudding? People are idiots. Actually vanilla pudding is nasty~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 It's definately better on the piano, therefore much better live It was the versions at Montreux and Paris that did it for me. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper_chondriac_muser Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Who knows? Why do people eat black pudding? People are idiots. Well put Screenager provides a brilliant freshness to the album, a change of pace yet in an unconventional way, because it's quite experimental in sound and they've tested out different percussions etc so overall it works as the 'different' track on the album. It's really beautiful and a stand-out Muse song... And it just adds to what makes OoS their unparalleled album: a bit o' innovation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_October Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 if you wanna hear musical boundaries get pushed muse is hardly the band to do it. hearing the boundaries of popular-rock getting pushed? sure. but music in general? nah. I just want to know, what are some bands that you would consider pushing the boundaries of music? I just want to know, because i've been looking for some interesting music to listen to, and I want to try something really weird. Anyway, back on topic, I love Screenager, although it was the last song on the album to really grow on me. I think that Darkshines should have come before it though, it would have helped with flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper_chondriac_muser Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Your posts are exactly the same on MuseLive Doodles, always in-depth to the max Lol I can't help it I'm just OTT about Muse..everyone knows that to the point of -ing at me haha! But I stand by my words, Screenager is teh bootifulz oh and nice to see you posting on here again Sam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrowSmith Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Much better on the piano live at Le Zenith with the Rachmaninov intro "Prelude in C# minor". Much more exciting then the sedate album version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 It's a highlight of OoS, overlooked waaaaaay too much. I love all three versions of it, the quiet, brooding album version, the clanky bluesy live version on guitar and the 2002 piano version with the Rachmaninov piece and B&H solo beforehand (not the 2001 Hullabaloo one). It's a great song, I'd love to see it back in the setlists again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrowSmith Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 BTW, nobody hates Screenager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonscreen Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 BTW, nobody hates Screenager! Yup! And my username is devonscreen(ager). What's wrong with those song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Why would anybody hate Screenager? The first time I heard it, it chilled me to the bones. The lyrics and the melody are so haunting and dark it's what makes it so beautiful. Much better on the piano live at Le Zenith with the Rachmaninov intro "Prelude in C# minor". Much more exciting then the sedate album version. I agree, it's even better than the album version. It is one of the many things I love about Muse: their ability to mix classical influences with modern sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admat97 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I LOVE this song!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_b Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Why do you think that peoples are hate screenager ? its a beautiful song man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAndrews Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Screenager has been added to the dictionary n. a person in their teens or twenties who has an aptitude for computers and the Internet. didnt mention anything of muse though, got it from a cracked.com article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell_A Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 i quite like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Screenager has been added to the dictionary n. a person in their teens or twenties who has an aptitude for computers and the Internet. didnt mention anything of muse though, got it from a cracked.com article Why would it? Muse didn't coin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I wouldn't say I hate it, but it's definately my least favourite song from OoS. As mentioned before, it just doesn't really fit. Screenager fits quite well with the themes on the album I think. Feeling Good however ruins a brilliant album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAndrews Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Why would it? Muse didn't coin it. because they may have brought it into recognition, and if i wouldnt have written that it probably would have been asked anyway dont you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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