MuseRLegend Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Firstly, I am 14, and have only been a Muse fan for a year, but that is simply because I never used to listen to music. My favourite album is OoS, not The Resistance, so I'm not the sterotype of a 'new teenage fan'. I do NOT like Twilight, I like the Douglas Adams and Richard Dawkins, so don't get any ideas. I joined this crazy message board because I wanted to talk to people who shared my passion. The Muse board brought me a great sense of belonging, and I will never forget all the lovely people on here, who have understood my obsession for Muse. Right, onto the serious stuff: Recently, I have noticed the increase of criticism on these boards. Whether its about setlists or Twilight, a minority of musers seem to moan about everything. Its starting to get on my nerves, and I don't think I'm the only one who wouldn't mind a bit of positivity for a change. I'm sure everyone has had the odd disagreement or minor annoyance they want to talk about, but I think its time people stopped constantly complaining. This is a forum for Muse fans, who want to talk about their love for Muse. If you want to criticise and be negative all the time, go somewhere else. No matter how many times you moan about Feeling Good being played live, it won't be changed. Muse have changed with every album, and no ammount of complaints will bring back the 'good old days'. Muse have every right to grow and expand in different ways, and if you don't like it, fine, but others do, and we would like to talk about it in peace. Sorry about my rant, but I felt the situation had to be addressed. I apologuise if I offended anyone, and sorry if this has been brought up before. EDIT: Ok, I'm surpirsed at the amount of replies, and I can't reply to everyone, so here's my general reply: I am not saying you can't complain, I've done it myself before, but I just think that certain people actually come on here to moan and be negative. I am not trying to violate your rights to express your opinion, I would just appreciate it if Muse's every move could have slightly less criticism before I top myself (and I'm joking, by the way). You have every right to an opinion, just as I do. I just happen not to agree with yours all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Sorry that we're not allowed to spaff to everything Muse do, o great leader of communist Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkle19 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Bloody hell, get over the fact that people will moan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I love freedom of speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregon Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Am I allowed to say you've spelt criticism wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CydonianCrystal Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I felt the same when I first joined these boards. But then I became like them. Good luck!! But I think it's good people moan, it shows how much people appreciate the core of Muse and in many instances they're moaning about something they believe will make Muse go downhill as it were - it's just fans wanting their band to be as awesome as we all know they can be!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkle19 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Am I allowed to say you've spelt criticism wrong? And apologise. MuseRnotLegend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeSides Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Firstly, I am 14, and have only been a Muse fan for a year, but that is simply because I never used to listen to music. My favourite song is B&H, not SmBH, so I'm not the sterotype of a 'new teenage fan'. I do NOT like Twilight, I like the Douglas Adams and Richard Dawkins, so don't get any ideas. I joined this crazy message board because I wanted to talk to people who shared my passion. The Muse board brought me a great sense of belonging, and I will never forget all the lovely people on here, who have understood my obsession for Muse. Right, onto the serious stuff: Recently, I have noticed the increase of criticism on these boards. Whether its about setlists or Twilight, a minority of musers seem to moan about everything. Its starting to get on my nerves, and I don't think I'm the only one who wouldn't mind a bit of positivity for a change. I'm sure everyone has had the odd disagreement or minor annoyance they want to talk about, but I think its time people stopped constantly complaining. This is a forum for Muse fans, who want to talk about their love for Muse. If you want to criticise and be negative all the time, go somewhere else. No matter how many times you moan about Feeling Good being played live, it won't be changed. Muse have changed with every album, and no ammount of complaints will bring back the 'good old days'. Muse have every right to grow and expand in different ways, and if you don't like it, fine, but others do, and we would like to talk about it in peace. Sorry about my rant, but I felt the situation had to be addressed. I apologuise if I offended anyone, and sorry if this has been brought up before. sorry honey. i'm a muse fan. i love muse. but i'm only positive on tuesdays thursdays saturdays and sundays. why? because even though i love them most of the time they are not perfect and occasionally pull songs out of their arses which in my right to an opinion do criticise...and in order to find some balance i've restricted my negative comments to mondays, wednesdays and fridays. so...you want hearts and flowers all the time? you're not going to get them in life and you're not going to get them here. i don't mean to sound harsh..but it's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjk62289 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 its not necessarily people complaining, everyone wants to express their opinion. if someone doesnt like something theyre going to express it. theres nothing wrong with that. some people are just more opinionated and blatant about it. id rather hear an honest opinion than just people praising muse for everything they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo57 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I'd hate for you to be a mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essee Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 don't we have the right to complain? after all, we are their fans and spend a lot of our money on them, shouldn't we be allowed to say anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I felt the same when I first joined these boards. But then I became like them. Good luck!! But I think it's good people moan, it shows how much people appreciate the core of Muse and in many instances they're moaning about something they believe will make Muse go downhill as it were - it's just fans wanting their band to be as awesome as we all know they can be!! It's because most of the rational complainers (yes there are some morons out there with some very odd views) don't express their love for muse constantly on the boards, so usually when they do make a post in the muse areas it is because they feel the band has done something that has disappointed them. Some of the regular main muse people then just see this 'banterer' or 'randomer' criticise Muse and just flip and start making up stories, which the obviously leads to clarifications and in some cases character defenses. It is because people care. If they didn't care about Muse then they'd pretend the Muse section of the board didn't exist and just laugh at their failings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melania13 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Am I allowed to say you've spelt criticism wrong? NO! I don't mind the criticism about songs....because everyone has a preference. some people hate UD and GL and Starlight, while others may despise Cave, Micro Cuts, and ToADA... i happen to love almost all Muse songs, but it took a little while for me to warm up to the entire Showbiz/OoS Muse... That being said, it pisses me off when people judge others for their taste... like: "oh you like NSC? You have horrible taste! Muse hit their peak OoS/Abso....etc" and then people fight, for no reason, with no foreseeable reward--> Music is like art, you may think Picasso is shit, but he's famous for a reason:unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Resistance Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Alright. Well, basically if people aren't complete twats, they can share their opinion on here if they want. Sometimes I do question some musers on here about whether they even like Muse anymore, but that's not really all the time. It's whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 NO! I don't mind the criticism about songs....because everyone has a preference. some people hate UD and GL and Starlight, while others may despise Cave, Micro Cuts, and ToADA... i happen to love almost all Muse songs, but it took a little while for me to warm up to the entire Showbiz/OoS Muse... That being said, it pisses me off when people judge others for their taste... like: "oh you like NSC? You have horrible taste! Muse hit their peak OoS/Abso....etc" and then people fight, for no reason, with no foreseeable reward--> Music is like art, you may think Picasso is shit, but he's famous for a reason:unsure: But I don't see any of that. If that was the case then fair enough. To the other poster, as someone who has invested a lot of time and money into Muse, and supported them for 8 years, if I feel that their direction is disappointing me, then I have a right to complain, I feel disheartened by what they are doing, and to be frank ripped off in November. Sure it's going to change nothing but I really don't see why I should just accept 'oh well that was shit but at least they're trying hard'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydays Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 no, budge off, i think he's got a point. I mean, you obviously shouldn't censor your words if that's really what you think, but considering we're supposed to be the biggest muse fans, hanging out on the muse board, the amount of criticism is just a bit surprising. I think people forget that we're fans of the band, not their managers or advisors, and if you dislike them that much then you should probably find another forum. I know it's all in good fun most of the time, and generally 'constructive' criticism/discussion, but some comments and jokes have been repeated so often that the arguments lose purpose and it brings everybody down. I used to like feeling good before I came here, but now I feel strange saying that I do. and banter is a different story all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melania13 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 no, budge off, i think he's got a point. I mean, you obviously shouldn't censor your words if that's really what you think, but considering we're supposed to be the biggest muse fans, hanging out on the muse board, the amount of criticism is just a bit surprising. I think people forget that we're fans of the band, not their managers or advisors, and if you dislike them that much then you should probably find another forum. I know it's all in good fun most of the time, and generally 'constructive' criticism/discussion, but some comments and jokes have been repeated so often that the arguments lose purpose and it brings everybody down. I used to like feeling good before I came here, but now I feel strange saying that I do. and banter is a different story all together. you make good points! they spend a TON of money on these boards and the website for us, but then we turn around and act like we're paying them (through purchases and such) ANYWAY *feeling good high five* i like it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Resistance Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 no, budge off, i think he's got a point. I mean, you obviously shouldn't censor your words if that's really what you think, but considering we're supposed to be the biggest muse fans, hanging out on the muse board, the amount of criticism is just a bit surprising. I think people forget that we're fans of the band, not their managers or advisors, and if you dislike them that much then you should probably find another forum. I know it's all in good fun most of the time, and generally 'constructive' criticism/discussion, but some comments and jokes have been repeated so often that the arguments lose purpose and it brings everybody down. I used to like feeling good before I came here, but now I feel strange saying that I do. and banter is a different story all together. I agree with this. Constructive criticism I can see appropriate...but like I said...it gets to be a bit much sometimes. And don't worry, I like Feeling Good too lol AND GUIDING LIGHT and I'm not afraid to fecking say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melania13 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 AND GUIDING LIGHT and I'm not afraid to fecking say it. *guiding light high five* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjk62289 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 i think if you like something dont be afraid to say it, if you dont then say it as well. as i said your allowed to express your opinion. thers obviously going to be things people dislike. everyone may not agree with it but thats life. yes they do pay for the board, and its for fans to talk about the band, may that be things they like or arent necessarily a fan of. i personally havent said anything to "criticise" the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I think it's fair to say that a lot of people who moan about the people who complain don't realise where they're coming from. Most of the people who make critical comments, which I see as well constructed for the most part, are ones who have been fans of Muse long enough and/or have invested lots into Muse in the past and have a sense of what Muse were once capable. And do not get me started on the people who say 'well, if you don't like them, why don't you fuck off then?' No, why don't YOU fuck off for making such a moronic statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Resistance Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 *guiding light high five* *high fives* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo57 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Guiding Light? Fucking fuck yeah. Beastly guitar solo, shows that Matteh can shred like Satan. Feeling Good? It's a great song! We got it at Birmingham in November. Although, I must admit, it is sort of overplayed, in my opinion. But I still lub it. Neutron Star Collision? It's on my MP3 player, and is a brilliant listen. I love it too! But nothing will ever stop the complaining about Twilight. It gives us something to bitch about, and everyone needs a good bitch every now and then! Fuck Twilight... vampires are meant to suck blood, not cock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Also, Banter has nothing to do with this. It just doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Kitty Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 no, budge off, i think he's got a point. I mean, you obviously shouldn't censor your words if that's really what you think, but considering we're supposed to be the biggest muse fans, hanging out on the muse board, the amount of criticism is just a bit surprising. I think people forget that we're fans of the band, not their managers or advisors, and if you dislike them that much then you should probably find another forum. I know it's all in good fun most of the time, and generally 'constructive' criticism/discussion, but some comments and jokes have been repeated so often that the arguments lose purpose and it brings everybody down. I used to like feeling good before I came here, but now I feel strange saying that I do. and banter is a different story all together. Even if your the biggest fan of something you can find things to criticise about it. No one should think Matt Bellamy has cosmic rays shining out of his supermassive bumhole no matter how many good songs he and Muse write And Grr! Banter - bunch of wanke- OH WAIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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