Hat Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Except Glorious is meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Except DMG didn't come out of the BH&R era. Except era is quite an arbitrary term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Except era is quite an arbitrary term. DMG came out of the Absolution era no matter how you define it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 DMG came out of the Absolution era no matter how you define it. The Absolution/BHaR transition era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 DMG came out of the Absolution era no matter how you define it.I'm not sure you know what "define" means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I'm not sure you know what "define" means. Jesus, how are you getting that from my post? For me, the definition of the Abso era is the start of the writing/recording process for the album until the end of the 2005 tour. He's defining it as whatever until the end of the 2004 tour, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Jesus, how are you getting that from my post? For me, the definition of the Abso era is the start of the writing/recording process for the album until the end of the 2005 tour. He's defining it as whatever until the end of the 2004 tour, presumably. So what you're saying is that you're defining it differently? And that by his definition, it didn't come out on the Abso era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Assassin/DMG is BH&R era, so far as I'm concerned. The same way I assume most of us treat Plug In Baby part of the Origin era, The Small Print, Fury and Apocalypse Please as part of the Absolution era and Crying Shame, Glorious and Exo-Politics as part of the BH&R era. If we're really splitting hairs, the defining part of DMG that differs from Assassin as released on BH&R is Origin era, as the bridge in DMG is based on the Rachmaninov piano interlude Muse played as an intro to Screenager in 2002, the name escapes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) So what you're saying is that you're defining it differently? And that by his definition, it didn't come out on the Abso era? Why does everything on this fucking forum have to turn into an argument about semantics? Yes, I know, he's right by his, I'm right by mine. Definition need not be unique. But then you can just make completely pointless extensions for the sake of it. For example, "TiRO came out of the Showbiz/T2L transition era". While correct, it's also a completely ridiculous way saying when a song is from. Abso / BHAR transition era is the same. In fact, Abso / BHAR transition era is a subset of the Abso era, undeniable since it was still the touring period for Abso and not in any way connected to an album which had yet to be written or toured. Was the Summer 2011 tour the transition era for TR and T2L? No, it was still the TR tour. Edit: for clarity I'm considering songs to be in their final form (inb4 memes), i.e PiB is OoS era, the version with that horrible bass synth etc is not. Edited September 2, 2014 by ryanp16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Well when you dispute the idea that 2005 would be BH&R era, you kinda have to expect an argument about the semantics of era. That's kind of what you signed up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 If we're really splitting hairs, the defining part of DMG that differs from Assassin as released on BH&R is Origin era, as the bridge in DMG is based on the Rachmaninov piano interlude Muse played as an intro to Screenager in 2002, the name escapes me. It's Prelude in G minor transposed to D. Given that it was written in 1901, technically speaking DMG dates back to the Edwardian era. Do we count that as part of the Muse chronology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Muse actually formed in the early 1810s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Ferris Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Glorious is the best thing to come out of the BH&R era. Certainly a contender. That or TaB, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 The last few pages have been glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Easily is the best thing to come out of the BHaR era. I threw up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Easily is the best thing to come out of the BHaR era. I think you must've forgotten Take a Bow, Map of the Problematique, Assassins DMG version and Glorious.. It's a great song though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_writer Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Well when you dispute the idea that 2005 would be BH&R era, you kinda have to expect an argument about the semantics of era. That's kind of what you signed up for. Personally I consider 2005 late abso era because BHaR hadnt been released yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael8888 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Coma is a great song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Escape is one of Muse's best songs. No troll. I've always loved it and I'm sad they haven't played it in so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Escape is one of Muse's best songs. No troll. I've always loved it and I'm sad they haven't played it in so long. I wouldn't go as far as to say that but I do really like it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I really can't abide Escape. Overdue, on the other hand, is great. Such a fun song . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I really can't abide Escape. Overdue, on the other hand, is great. Such a fun song . But Overdue is the worst Muse song of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Overdue, on the other hand, is great. Such a fun song . It's pretty good. Sorely underrated by my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriAr Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But Overdue is the worst Muse song of all time. Wrong, as usual. Muse picked the wrong Wembley gig for HAARP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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