Uprising Bliss Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Keeping a pedal hat going can be very difficult, depending on the rhythm you're playing, and what instruments you're listening to. I always thought the tom beat in SS sounded very hard, but i've not tried it. I'm not bragging or anything, I can show you an audio clip or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_man361 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 apparently the KOC kick drum part is difficult to play using one peddle. assassin fill is supposed to be quite hard to get to grips with too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riveon Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I've found that the drums on songs are a lot easier than they sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I'm not bragging or anything, I can show you an audio clip or something. I'm not saying you're bragging. I haven't heard the song so I don't know the beat. If you are playing a very complex rythm using both hands and your right foot, it can be very difficult to pedal your left foot constantly, regardless of whether you have "natural rhythm" or not. If you've been playing this sort of thing lots (lots of practice, or playing for years) then yeh, it will feel easy, but it wasn't easy to begin with. If you're going to say "well when I was 5 I just sat down at the kit and started playing 16ths on the kick with the heel toe technique, in perfect synch with my double strokes on the snare and pedalling the hat. It's then that I realised I have natural rhythm", well, just, fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36JKpTteiSw The song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 no speakers at work. I might listen tonight if i'm feeling gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 it's one of the better new ones tom. you might like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riveon Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Is Ruled by Secrecy hard? I've never tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don'tPostThePear Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 no speakers at work. I might listen tonight if i'm feeling gay don't do it. stand strong against the queer vibes and keep your after-OOS-era virginity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 it's one of the better new ones tom. you might like it. yeh I should really listen through their newer stuff. My car stereo's fucked at the moment, which is a downer 'cos that's the only place I listen to other people's music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 i wouldn't listen to all of there newer stuff, it'll ruin your fond memories of the band. just go for a handful of tracks. You've heard all of Absolution right? Blackholes pretty much just stick to Map of the Problematique and Assassin, the trouble is they sound a bit weak on the album... Unnatural Selection and MK Ultra are the highlights off the new one. The symphony is worth a listen too, although it'll probably reduce you to tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riveon Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 i wouldn't listen to all of there newer stuff, it'll ruin your fond memories of the band. just go for a handful of tracks. You've heard all of Absolution right? Blackholes pretty much just stick to Map of the Problematique and Assassin, the trouble is they sound a bit weak on the album... Unnatural Selection and MK Ultra are the highlights off the new one. The symphony is worth a listen too, although it'll probably reduce you to tears. Well, I think you should let him listen and make up his own mind, but if he listens to your advice, Hoodoo, Take a Bow and Knights are also worth a listen on BH&R. And Prague (a new cover b-side) is an absolute gem, listen to it as soon as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 not from a OoS era riff lover's point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riveon Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I was joking about Prague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I've heard all of absolution, yeh. I think I even bought it. There's some pretty amazing production on there, but fuck me the songs are (in general) shit. My biggest issue is that I used to listen to the B sides more than anything else, and I lost all them. I should probably find them, I bet they're all on muselive or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 yeah they probably are. Absolution has some good tracks, no enough harder tracks though. Stockhom is the highlight of the album, Fury is great too, that should have been on the UK album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwantamanson Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 i cant agree that the songs on absolution are shit. its not as epic as OoS but its still pretty much an amazing album, stuff like sing for absolution, endlessly and TSP are great tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 It toally lacks energy IMO. E.G Listen to SS, it starts off with so much energy, it feels like you've been picked up on a massive wave of riffing, travelling at near light speed, until you get to a stair case which is a bit of a bastard to climb (build up to chorus) and then at the top instead of more adrenaline there are some fucking butterflies and bluebirds. Yeh, it ends well, but I can't listen to the end! I'm not sure of the song names, but I really like the last one, and I like the one that was on the Jap release. That's about all I can stand off absolution these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 yeah, i like pretty much all of the tracks on it, but i miss the rawer edge of the rockier stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 It toally lacks energy IMO. E.G Listen to SS, it starts off with so much energy, it feels like you've been picked up on a massive wave of riffing, travelling at near light speed, until you get to a stair case which is a bit of a bastard to climb (build up to chorus) and then at the top instead of more adrenaline there are some fucking butterflies and bluebirds. Yeh, it ends well, but I can't listen to the end! I'm not sure of the song names, but I really like the last one, and I like the one that was on the Jap release. That's about all I can stand off absolution these days. The piano one at the end that kicks off for the last minute? Ruled By Secrecy. And Fury is the Jap one. That one is great. I know what you mean about the pace changes in SS, I think it looks quite well though, but yeah something that kept that momentum going the whole way would be epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I'm just too judgemental with music really. I think it's from arrogance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 hahaha cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The piano one at the end that kicks off for the last minute? Ruled By Secrecy. And Fury is the Jap one. That one is great. I know what you mean about the pace changes in SS, I think it looks quite well though, but yeah something that kept that momentum going the whole way would be epic. Oh, now i'm not so sure. I looked up the tracklisting and I think it was The Small Print - maybe that's just the "last one" to me 'cos it's the last one I can stand on the album! It's just an opinion obviously. I'm not saying Muse are objectively shit. I just wonder whether they ever realised what made their live shows so amazing - raw energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Oh, now i'm not so sure. I looked up the tracklisting and I think it was The Small Print - maybe that's just the "last one" to me 'cos it's the last one I can stand on the album! It's just an opinion obviously. I'm not saying Muse are objectively shit. I just wonder whether they ever realised what made their live shows so amazing - raw energy. Yeah I know what you mean, it seems like every album they go further away from it. Cleaner, crisper sounding equipment and bright coloured disco screens... I liked it when it sounded really loud and rough and they relied more on playing there asses off more than what was on the screens behind them. Oh well, still looking forward to seeing them at Glasto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I just wish i'd seen them more back then. I saw them at leeds festival one year and literally emptied my bollocks into my pants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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