madjackmcmad Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Easily in my top 10 if not top 5. I can close my eyes and get deeply lost in the build up and then have my mind blasted later in the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veronica_cy Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Showbiz is a favourite among fans mainly due to Matt's delivery. That scream in the end is one of the best moments on the album. A really special song, so simple yet so amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calliope. Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 "Visions of greed yo wa-a-a-allow!" Just a great song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I've never understood why everyone loves the Reading performance from 2006 so much. Almost every performance of it between 1999 and 2002 beats it big time. Because it was actually played live for once. A bit of a shock to see it at Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Because it was actually played live for once. A bit of a shock to see it at Reading. Yes, but that doesn't explain all the "This will make you love it" and "This will change your opinion about it". It really doesn't come close to for example MCM 2000 or Le Zenith 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yes, but that doesn't explain all the "This will make you love it" and "This will change your opinion about it". It really doesn't come close to for example MCM 2000 or Le Zenith 2001. I don't know. It's one of the most recent performances of it I guess in the era of youtube vids from a major festival so more people have seen it than say the MCM version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowkay Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I find it really strange that people don't like songs that have a slow build up and a big pay off, I like the fact that you have to dig to enjoy it, not get instant gratification. Not that this applies to Showbiz, more of a general point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I don't know. It's one of the most recent performances of it I guess in the era of youtube vids from a major festival so more people have seen it than say the MCM version. But now I'm talking about the Muse fans here on this forum. I get that most people haven't seen the old videos. But when someone on this forum says that "This will change your opinion about Shiwbiz" I am assuming that they must have seen more than one performance of it at least. So there, we're back on the point, WHY do they prefer Reading? I can't see a single thing that would make it better. The climax is less epic, the voice has less emotion and....well, yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalyptic Gerbil Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Showbiz along with Citizen, Stockholm, Knights and New Born is one of Muses more epic songs, that's why I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 But now I'm talking about the Muse fans here on this forum. I get that most people haven't seen the old videos. But when someone on this forum says that "This will change your opinion about Shiwbiz" I am assuming that they must have seen more than one performance of it at least. So there, we're back on the point, WHY do they prefer Reading? I can't see a single thing that would make it better. The climax is less epic, the voice has less emotion and....well, yeah... I'm going to make a big generalisation here and think they might be newer fans and so the video of Reading 2006 was the first one they saw? It might have some sort of emotional investment. I don't know. Showbiz in any form is fine by me. I've seen it live with my own eyes so nothing can compare to actually being there in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I'm going to make a big generalisation here and think they might be newer fans and so the video of Reading 2006 was the first one they saw? It might have some sort of emotional investment. I don't know. Showbiz in any form is fine by me. I've seen it live with my own eyes so nothing can compare to actually being there in person. Pretty pointless argument I would say . Showbiz is a great song, one of their best, and seeing it live would be beyond awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowkay Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Pretty pointless argument I would say . Showbiz is a great song, one of their best, and seeing it live would be beyond awesome. Yeah, but this place is full of people who think I Belong to You is a good song, their judgement is not to be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregon Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Because it's like an orgasm in a song. Slow build up and screamful delight at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Because it's like an orgasm in a song. Slow build up and screamful delight at the end You're assuming everyone knows what an orgasm is like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregon Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 You're assuming everyone knows what an orgasm is like That's their problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 That's their problem But it's not my fault i'm limited in my abilities and crippled by bad luck Luckily I can listen to Showbiz whenever with minimal effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yeah, but this place is full of people who think I Belong to You is a good song, their judgement is not to be trusted. People like me then. IBTY <3333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesome Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOOWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHooooooooo-agh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tofu Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Now, in all the votes, and polls on the forum, Showbiz (the song) is hailed as one of Muse's greatest songs. However, in my opinion, it's one of there worst, alongside Sober. I'm gunna get pelters for this, but I just can't see why everyone likes it....... Sober is one of my top favorite songs ever. What is interesting is how it progresses and builds despite it just being the same 5 chords over and over and no variation in the lead guitar or vocal melodies at all really. A bit reminiscent of late 60's - 70's German bands, which makes the song awesome by default. This. And the sheer emotional impact. BAM! IN THE FACE. No mercy. oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOOWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHooooooooo-agh And this. Not much more needs to be said by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW7 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 people like it cos its off the 1st album. It is ok, especially live with ashamed outro but its nothing amazing and still is there most repetitive song to date with only one riff which is repeated constantly on the guitar and for vocals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowkay Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 people like it cos its off the 1st album. It is ok, especially live with ashamed outro but its nothing amazing and still is there most repetitive song to date with only one riff which is repeated constantly on the guitar and for vocals Something doesn't have to be complicated to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Because Showbiz wins. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate E. Clare Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 But it's not my fault i'm limited in my abilities and crippled by bad luck Luckily I can listen to Showbiz whenever with minimal effort im amazed this hasnt led to a joke about wanking while listening to showbiz. oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper_chondriac_muser Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I personally don't think Showbiz at Reading comes close to Zenith 01 or Eurockeennes 00... there have been tons better performances, but I think it's so loved because it's their most recent performance and was such a random one to choose to play at a big festival. I was certain they'd bust it out for Wembley the year after, but they didn't . But they made up for it with Micro Cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3ker Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 But now I'm talking about the Muse fans here on this forum. I get that most people haven't seen the old videos. But when someone on this forum says that "This will change your opinion about Shiwbiz" I am assuming that they must have seen more than one performance of it at least. So there, we're back on the point, WHY do they prefer Reading? I can't see a single thing that would make it better. The climax is less epic, the voice has less emotion and....well, yeah... I've seen several versions of Showbiz and I still think Reading is the best. Comparing Reading to MCM per example, I find the vocals way more solid and the guitar way more powerful in 2006. Yes, some of the 'raw' feeling in the early versions got lost in the process, but in 2006 it just sounds more mature but still has the anger that the song asks for. But that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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