kickliquid Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 I have a question, and im sorry if its been already asked but I couldnt find it anywhere on this thread, but does anyone with a technical knowledge of electrical wiring and guitar have an idea if a fuzz probe could actually be inserted into a guitar like a fuzz factory only instead of using the knobs of a fuzz factory to make the weird noises that are the hallmark of these pedals you use the plate to do it with your hands instead of your feet? It might be a little outrageous, I know, but i was just curious. Tom Morrello from Rage actually has something similar only it isnt a pedal, its more of a ground to his wiring so when he touches it, it kills the current in his guitar. Some of you might of seen him taking out his quarter inch cable during a song and place the metallic tip of it on his guitar to give it that ground sound you get when you tap the end of the cable to something metal. Anyways he decided that it was to much for him to take it out mid song then put back in again everytime they played live so he went to a guitar tech and they built him a metal pad onto his guitar that killed that current when he touched it giving him the same effect as taking that cable out... Anyways I hope I didnt confuse anyone I was just wondering about that fuzz probe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatterbrain Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 That's probably possible since Matt has a ZVex Wah Probe built into his black guitar and the Wah Probe has the same size as the Fuzz Probe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klawn Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Yes, you can do that. Matt has a Wah Probe in his Black Manson so a Fuzz Probe can be put in a guitar too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Yes, you can do that. Matt has a Wah Probe in his Black Manson so a Fuzz Probe can be put in a guitar too. its a bit more complicated because the FP has more knobs, so there is another control to put in... ask Haze, he knows a lot about this sort of thing (Fuzz Probes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klawn Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Yes, sure, but it's just more complicated, not impossible. An halfway between the Fuzz Factory and the Wah Probe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombaz Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 has more knobs?? am i missing knobs? isnt the fuzz probe literally a fuzz factory box with the copper plate-acrylic combo on the side? what knobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickliquid Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 its a bit more complicated because the FP has more knobs, so there is another control to put in... ask Haze, he knows a lot about this sort of thing (Fuzz Probes) Poor Haze he is missing in action. I have to agree with randombaz about it just being a fuzz factory with a copper plate unless of course when you refered to the extra knobs you were thinking about the wah probe. I suppose the biggest obstacle would be fitting this sucker into my guitar, espeically the plate itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Manson did it, I'm sure you can...I think you'll need to modify the sensitivity a bit too... and yes, I meant that the Fuzz Probe has more knobs than the Wah Probe. The wah probe only has one (the "crackle okay" knob from the super hard-on circuit in front of the wah) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombaz Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 fuzz factory in a guitar is a boring and matt wannabe idea. but a fuzz probe.....now thats slightly different. and if ur willing and have the money, i'd go for it. is it possible to remove the copper plate and reduce that in size? it shouldnt effect the sound because its only when the ef field is disturbed does the sound change. so reduce that in size, get rid of the acrylic, install the fuzz factory into your guitar as you normally do (however that is), and have a small hole to thread the wire through so the copper plate can be glued down onto the guitar somewhere personally i'd velcro it each time to my crotch. the comical squeals as i rub myself would amuse the crowd im sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klawn Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 I think if you haven't good knowledges about all those things, you should go to Manson or another specialist. As Zach Vex says, put an effect in a guitar is not simple and only a qualified person can do that properly and with a good work quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickliquid Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 fuzz factory in a guitar is a boring and matt wannabe idea. but a fuzz probe.....now thats slightly different. and if ur willing and have the money, i'd go for it. I have the money I just need some more technical info on it before i decide to blow all that money away on something that im sure will be quite expensive. is it possible to remove the copper plate and reduce that in size? it shouldnt effect the sound because its only when the ef field is disturbed does the sound change. so reduce that in size, get rid of the acrylic, install the fuzz factory into your guitar as you normally do (however that is), and have a small hole to thread the wire through so the copper plate can be glued down onto the guitar somewhere Yes id like to significantly reduce the size of the plate, regardless of my hollow body guitar, im sure it would take up a great deal of room, Im just wondering about it being able to be reduced myself. personally i'd velcro it each time to my crotch. the comical squeals as i rub myself would amuse the crowd im sure I like how you think, now if micheal jackson had one of those during his hey day he'd be considered a genius...if he did that today he be considered a pervert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3chris Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 lmao, how funny would it be to see them noises coming from michael jacksons penis, everytime he bummed a kid the oscillation would peak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krasnojarsk Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 If we're coming back to the FF/FP discussion, an FF would be slightly more useful at times, having a FP I find myself wanting to turn the knob to end up at an exact pitch, and it's a bitch to stand with the foot in the exact position...but for just freaking out, FP is the way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3chris Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 which is why i jus bought a ff and not a fp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 If we're coming back to the FF/FP discussion, an FF would be slightly more useful at times, having a FP I find myself wanting to turn the knob to end up at an exact pitch, and it's a bitch to stand with the foot in the exact position...but for just freaking out, FP is the way to go! Take your foot out of reach of the copper plate, if I wanted feedback at one pitch I wouldn't have bothered with a FF or an FP, amp does that just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krasnojarsk Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Yeah, but I mean if I wanted it to oscillate in A# or whatever all of a sudden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Yeah, but I mean if I wanted it to oscillate in A# or whatever all of a sudden... then you'd set the stab to be at A# on the knobs so that when your foot is out of the way its at A#...would that even work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krasnojarsk Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 ...and when I've played two minutes into the song I want it to be in B...'the hovering foot' is ever so impopular... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 but to do that with the FF you'd have to kneel down and change the knob carefull whilst making sure you end up at the correct pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3chris Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 not if it was in your guitar.. and pluss matt does it live in black out.. its easy to the trained ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Or get a chromatic tuner after the FF/FP and work out the pitch from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krasnojarsk Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Well, all I'm saying is that a velcroed/built-in FF would be better than the FP at times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombaz Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 what the hell? am i missing something. fuzz factory IS a fuzz probe. fuzz probe is a fuzz factory. they're the same. fuzz probe just has more, thats all. if ur talking about installing it into your guitar, and worried that the plate will be active when set and will start changing the frequency, then if you were clever just add an on/off switch in the middle of the wires contecting the plate, i dunno and dont put a fuzz factory in your guitar for gods sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krasnojarsk Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 God. I have a Probe, just saying it would be nifty I could set an exact pitch along with the music, sure, I can set one at the beginning of the song, but only a knob on the guitar would make it exact, God knows I've tried to hover above the Probe, but it just doesn't work. That said, the Probe is still cooler And, a switch wouldn't be possible, there's no space inside the pedal. (I want a Seek-Trem too soo bad! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I know i should post in the FF thread, but just wondering, the "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" sound that my FF used to make is gone. maybe battery ? If i get answer, lock thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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