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Problems with songwriting, need some help ;)


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3. listen to more music.

 

no one ever wrote anything original, first you gotta imitate before you can create, and that comes through training your ear and listening intently, it will benefit you much more than anything else.

 

Honestly I think that's bollocks.

 

We could have a massive debate over whether anything is original. Read some of this shit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation. I don't have the time for that, but...

 

If you listen to a lot of music, don't you think you'll inevitably start to imitate it? By starving myself of other people's music over the last few years, I think (or i'm kidding myself) that i've come up with an "original" style.

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Honestly I think that's bollocks.

 

We could have a massive debate over whether anything is original. Read some of this shit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation. I don't have the time for that, but...

 

If you listen to a lot of music, don't you think you'll inevitably start to imitate it? By starving myself of other people's music over the last few years, I think (or i'm kidding myself) that i've come up with an "original" style.

 

I am fairly familiar with those concepts. I did a presentation about it in recorded music for uni a few years ago. suppose it comes down to whether you're a pessimist or a optimist. IM a pessimist and like to get balls deep with the,theory if things. Good for being quick/efficient. Bad for seeing the " new" in things

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ignoring the philosophical theorising...

 

If you listen to lots of other people's music, your music will be more derivative than if you isolate yourself from other people's music.

 

Am I wrong?

 

For me personally, one thing I really strive for is originality. I play in one band which is very very derivative and "samey" and it absolutely whammies my whammy.

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ignoring the philosophical theorising...

 

If you listen to lots of other people's music, your music will be more derivative than if you isolate yourself from other people's music.

 

Am I wrong?

 

For me personally, one thing I really strive for is originality. I play in one band which is very very derivative and "samey" and it absolutely whammies my whammy.

 

This is true.

 

Although I take exactly the opposite concept of listening to lots of others. I always want to be original too, and unique, but these days it's exceptionally unlikely that anyone will ever be "fully" original; there's simply been so much music made, that there aren't many more places to go musically.

 

Although you could say that there are, we just haven't discovered them yet :LOL:

 

But yeah, whilst I always want to be unique, I also try and be slightly derivative I think. If you can combine the two - so draw what you know from various sources but then almost mould it into your own sound, obviously with your own creativity being predominant too - then I think that's good. Just seems to me that that would give a sense of familiarity to a listener, whilst still giving off enough of your own sound to contrast it to other bands. If that makes sense :facepalm:

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oh christ I... I've never seen a facepalm that comes anywhere near being adequate for the above post.

 

Oh, cheers for that :LOL:

 

Hardly that bad a post though, makes sense to take inspiration from people but add your own original ideas to it.

 

Could say the same about your "not listened to music for the last few years so I've got my own original shit". How can that apply when you still listened to music before? You'll still have influences from that stuff, even subconsciously.

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