tomrulez Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 If I remember PC control the Whammy preset and CC control the treadle position. Ah I just noticed the tempo was never set in program. Changing the project tempo to 250 lined it up for me. Yeah pc control the preset but it would need to be set to the correct preset to start with as there are no pc commands in the midi to change to the correct preset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Maybe I should include an instruction guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Setting the midi tempo to 250 does the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I might try to fix it so it automatically sets the right preset and tempo. I know how to do it but I'd also like to wait until I can test that I didn't fuck everything up as I tend to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomparrot Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Setting it to 250BPM sounds better but still doesn't sound right on any of the Whammy's settings. Does sound like the Portal 2 soundtrack which is cool though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I'll have to recheck. This is an old recording I have using that same file. [soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/kueller/problematique[/soundcloud] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 There's something wrong with one step, yes, but still cool Finally it worked with reaper, but like I said, the file is wrong, and I don't know how to edit that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firellama24 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I can't find one anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 A MIDI file can be played in any DAW. Unless you're after something more specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firellama24 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 A MIDI file can be played in any DAW. Unless you're after something more specific? I mean one where I can use a whammy pedal with it to get the tone from MOTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidious911 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I mean one where I can use a whammy pedal with it to get the tone from MOTP Right, so you just need the MIDI file made for your version of Digitech Whammy since the versions have had some slightly different changes in codes. The MIDI will be loaded into whatever program and will send timed MIDI signals to the whammy to control its program and pedal position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I mean one where I can use a whammy pedal with it to get the tone from MOTP Its just a MIDI file then, as its only sending CC and Programme Changes to the Whammy pedal. Could even do it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 What kind of whammy do you have? I made a DT file, but I'm not sure the pattern changes are 100% correct, but it's close enough to play along with. It's pretty easy to make one if you know how to use the DAW and know the whammy CC numbers etc. There's another thread about this that's got the pattern in it somewhere if you want to make one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firellama24 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 What kind of whammy do you have? I made a DT file, but I'm not sure the pattern changes are 100% correct, but it's close enough to play along with. It's pretty easy to make one if you know how to use the DAW and know the whammy CC numbers etc. There's another thread about this that's got the pattern in it somewhere if you want to make one. I hava a Whammy V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Live is easy to do on your own because the patterns don't change like in the studio, its just the same pattern the ENTIRE song. If you want to play along to the studio that's alot more complicated considering the guitar is so low in the mix and all the instrumentals and such on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 What kind of whammy do you have? I made a DT file, but I'm not sure the pattern changes are 100% correct, but it's close enough to play along with. If it works on a Whammy IV, I'd appreciate being hit up with dat shit fam <3 Used to love playing along to Map with an old file but lost it a few years ago when the harddrive it was on popped it's clogs. I'd have made a new one myself but I'm barely smart enough to connect my laptop to my Whammy and somehow fumble my way around getting it working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Any file should be applicable to any Whammy assuming they use the treadle the same way, since MotP is all CC on Controller 11. You don't even need the Program Changes (which I know at least changed from IV to V) since it's all on one setting the entire song. I've always considered doing an in depth tutorial for this but I feel like I'd just confuse people more since there's so many DAWs and they all have different MIDI setups. Also in my experience the MIDI files don't transfer well since it tends to be done through automation in the software rather than something embedded into the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Any file should be applicable to any Whammy assuming they use the treadle the same way, since MotP is all CC on Controller 11. You don't even need the Program Changes (which I know at least changed from IV to V) since it's all on one setting the entire song. I've always considered doing an in depth tutorial for this but I feel like I'd just confuse people more since there's so many DAWs and they all have different MIDI setups. Also in my experience the MIDI files don't transfer well since it tends to be done through automation in the software rather than something embedded into the file. What do you mean all on one setting? Don't you still need to change the octaves from +1 to -1 with program changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I have it on the octave setting, which I found sounds better at least the way I've played it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 If it works on a Whammy IV, I'd appreciate being hit up with dat shit fam <3 Any file should be applicable to any Whammy assuming they use the treadle the same way, since MotP is all CC on Controller 11. You don't even need the Program Changes (which I know at least changed from IV to V) since it's all on one setting the entire song If it works I don't mind giving it to people. I doubt it'll work on a whammy 4 though, since I used the DT side for the +1 & -1 octaves (and the program change numbers are different on that pedal as well). They sounded a bit clearer and it saved me doing anything with the treadle position settings. Changing the numbers and adding the treadle positions would make it work on 4 & 5, but it'd probably be easier to make one from scratch than do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You don't need to mess with setting up the midi for the treadle at all if you just have it toe up and then use PC's to switch between -1 and +1 octave, that's how my file is set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You don't need to mess with setting up the midi for the treadle at all if you just have it toe up and then use PC's to switch between -1 and +1 octave, that's how my file is set up. If I remember correctly, the WH4 would make loud pops when doing that. Are you using the newest one and is it smoother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You don't need to mess with setting up the midi for the treadle at all if you just have it toe up and then use PC's to switch between -1 and +1 octave, that's how my file is set up. Won't all the position settings need to be at 127 so the MIDI commands have it set to toe down for the up & down octaves? I'm not totally sure about this stuff so may well be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 If I remember correctly, the WH4 would make loud pops when doing that. Are you using the newest one and is it smoother? Kind of, I assume it's the loading of the different preset. Won't all the position settings need to be at 127 so the MIDI commands have it set to toe down for the up & down octaves? I'm not totally sure about this stuff so may well be wrong. Doesn't really matter if you never send any CC. Just move the treadle to toe down yourself. Also while a Whammy V setup wouldn't work the same with a Whammy IV I believe it would only require some value changes to translate between the two. It's structurally the same thing still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Thought this was a nice video to see Matt's strumming pattern https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdcKNJZaf-M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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