CarrieB Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Oh, and just a comment on whether or not Matt gets better or gets worse at singing as he ages, I'm definitely going with getting better. Here's a comparison of dead star: First at Le Zenith (Hullabaloo) in 2001, then at V festival in 2008. In Hullabaloo he sounds much less controlled, more highpitched (nasal?). At V he sounds perfectly in charge of his own voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIFvPMgvbC0&fmt=18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj_RzPbYTaA&fmt=18 Both good performances but I think in all honesty that the earlier performance is better of this particular song because he appears to feeling it more in the earlier performance, the later one appearing to be more of a performance, and an attempt to replicate the feeling of an old performance which therefore makes it come over more forced. It's also noticeable that Chris is replacing Matt in the higher bits. However Matt's voice has been absolutely fantastic in the new songs. At a lower key, the powerful notes have been absolutely stunning. I think this just makes a case for the fact that they've got to be allowed to move on. I think that performances of old songs have the danger of ending up a shadow of their former selves, both because the emotional involvement is less and because Matt's voice has matured, whereas performances of new songs are going to allow Matt to use his voice in a way which suits where he is now which results in a powerful vocal. They have spoken before about restyling the older songs and doing them in a way that suits them now, and I think this would be good but I wish there wasn't a constant harping back to the past. Twenty year old Matt has gone forever, I'm afraid, but has been replaced with a brilliant alternative! PS Best vocal work Live - Unnatural Selection - stunning! Recorded - IBTY French opera and the IBTY bits - awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natural_Disaster Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Personally, I think Matt's voice does change with each album, but in a good way. If he sang like he did on OoS or Showbiz for songs like Unnatural Selection or IBTY, it just wouldn't sound right, in the same way that the way he sings on TR wouldn't fit songs like Falling Down or Cave. Listening to Absolution right now is making me think that this whole album is his best vocal work, even though I love all of it. Every song sounds really beautiful - his voice is more controlled than on OoS or Showbiz but he still lets go at points which he doesn't do as much on BHAR or TR. Best Vocal Work From Each Album: Showbiz - Falling Down Origin of Symmetry - Megalomania Hullabaloo - Shrinking Universe Absolution - Blackout Black Holes and Revelations - City of Delusion The Resistance - Unnatural Selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Warfare Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Resistance is sex, no doubt. But he needed to sing higher! And Cross Pollination ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurophu Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 hmm.. well i'm no expert of voices.. i don't think he's got the low notes right just yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Listening to Uprising for example, the backing vocals, (or the first part of Exo-Genesis) it doesn't sound like he has any problems with the higher notes these days either. He was born with the unique ability, it doesn't go away just like that. Just check out the recent KoC performance from Teignmouth, WOW. He's still got the skill. And it sounds even better than in the past. Overture sounds fantastic but its recorded so we don't know yet how it will sound live. I listened to a 2005 recording of Microcuts and he did struggle a bit with it at one point, bless his heart! For me his stunning performances in the lower register, which are a lot more powerful than they ever have been before in the past, make up for any loss he may have in the higher register. Equally I may be wrong and he may not have any loss in the higher register, it's just a possibility that concerns me when people go on and on about the "falsetto". It would be a shame if he felt he was being pushed into a corner vocally, when he has the capacity for really strong, powerful, vocals in a lower key. His vocal was awesome at Teignmouth, really pure, rich and rounded. Much better than V imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingardium LevioSIA Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Does anybody else think it would be really interesting to hear a version of Micro Cuts with deep vocals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elobliss Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Does anybody else think it would be really interesting to hear a version of Micro Cuts with deep vocals? yeah, but then it would have that awesome ear-piercing effect like when he's hitting that G5 and the massive gasp after it <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I've just been watching HARPP. I haven't watched it for ages, and I want to take back any comments I made about Matt possibly not being able to get the high notes any more because at Wembley he used his high voice many times and appeared to have no problem at all getting the notes. I think spending time on here and getting caught up in the off stage stuff, his quirky personality, which I love by the way, and his modesty, and with all the constant mixed reactions to everything Muse do, it is easy at times to lose sight of what a phenomenal talent Matt is. Watching him perform is amazing. He's awesome! End of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I've just been watching HARPP. I haven't watched it for ages, and I want to take back any comments I made about Matt possibly not being able to get the high notes any more because at Wembley he used his high voice many times and appeared to have no problem at all getting the notes. I think spending time on here and getting caught up in the off stage stuff, his quirky personality, which I love by the way, and his modesty, and with all the constant mixed reactions to everything Muse do, it is easy at times to lose sight of what a phenomenal talent Matt is. Watching him perform is amazing. He's awesome! End of! I guess you didn't notice that he avoided the high notes in Micro Cuts in that performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I stopped it at Newborn and came in to post! It doesn't matter anyway! The guy's talent is phenomenal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurophu Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 theyre not that modest anymore either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter_Moonchild Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Took them long enough to lose the modesty. I thought I might point out, that all three of them appeared to have a bad cold or a flu during the hullabaloo vid. Even showed Matt spitting up and Dom coughing his lungs up. That might have made the vocals sound odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurophu Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 it's like they only just realised how big they are lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 theyre not that modest anymore either. Why do you think they're not modest anymore? I still think they're modest. I mean blimey they have every reason not to be, but they always come over as sweet, self effacing guys to me. The only time I noticed they didn't sound so modest was in one of the American written interviews but I think that may well have been down to editing, since it seemed out of character with every other interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurophu Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 omg anyone else find his voice just amazing on the taratata stuff? i'm havin a bit of a spaff over that.. they sound fantastic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurophu Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Why do you think they're not modest anymore? I still think they're modest. I mean blimey they have every reason not to be, but they always come over as sweet, self effacing guys to me. The only time I noticed they didn't sound so modest was in one of the American written interviews but I think that may well have been down to editing, since it seemed out of character with every other interview. def. not arrogant just not modest.. or maybe i have a different view of whats modest and whats not.. they still are pretty modest then, just less, and with good reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 omg anyone else find his voice just amazing on the taratata stuff? i'm havin a bit of a spaff over that.. they sound fantastic.. He did sound fantastic yes! On the modesty thing, I don't know, I just think they're the same as they've always been. They appear to enjoy being appreciated and appear quite joyful when they're happy with their own performance. I think that's nice. To me it means they're not taking any of it for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkadelic Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 They've just become more confident, and Matt seems to have realised his singing isn't that shit after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 They've just become more confident, and Matt seems to have realised his singing isn't that shit after all. Maybe! I hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasoriani Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm in awe of the 'mon coeur s'ouvre a ta voix' part...(if I can forget it's supposed to be French - sorry Matt, pronunciation is horrible ) especially both "ah"s after "reponds a ma tendresse"... really astounding vocals. Give me the chills everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I guess you didn't notice that he avoided the high notes in Micro Cuts in that performance. I listened and apart from possibly the Wembley one starting slower I find it difficult to hear any significant difference tbh between HARPP and Hullaballo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I listened and apart from possibly the Wembley one starting slower I find it difficult to hear any significant difference tbh between HARPP and Hullaballo. Well, I can start by saying that he didn't even try to sing the highest note in the song, instead he let the guitar take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Well, I can start by saying that he didn't even try to sing the highest note in the song, instead he let the guitar take it No I don't think so! If you listen properly you can hear him singing. The guitar is just louder that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 No I don't think so! If you listen properly you can hear him singing. The guitar is just louder that's all. So the fact that he isn't even near a mic has nothing to do with it? I listened to it just now and there are at least 2 times where he don't reach as high as for example Hullabaloo, but that doesn't prove anything, but it is a fact that he doesn't even bother trying to reach the last and highest note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshXR Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I guess you didn't notice that he avoided the high notes in Micro Cuts in that performance. Micro Cuts has always been, no matter what anyone says, a bunch of screaming in the chorus. I'd say it's a very poor example of Matt's true singing ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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