Jfk003 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 lol yeah yeah then I'd like to be magic no the woosh sound is the phaser I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alysum Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 I still can't play this song stroking the D string in both ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinierK Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Then how the hell do you play guitar at all? The whole song is just alternate picking all the way (execption for the harmonic bits maybe). The chorus might be downstrokes, but that's because Matt always plays silly downstrokes (like citizen erased), I dont have enough speed for that... But alternate picking is good anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombaz Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 yeh, the alternate picking speed isnt fast, and its all on the same string. the only bit i cant do is the kinda solo part at the end, the "3 bars that are harder".......anyway just alternate pick and play the notes as usual with the left hand, and build up speed...comeon! anyone would think your discussing something hard/secretive you have to perform on a guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ptriX Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I still can't play this song stroking the D string in both ways It's basically just the final riff at the end but faster. Just do that and keep going faster, it's simple. And I don't use any hammer ons or pull offs, I just alternate pick em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 The thing that pisses me off is that everytime i play the opening riff it just sounds like a load of noise in D. I cant hear like the 13 or the 16 and 17 picks. How do i make it more clear? I have tried it with the gain down, the distortion down, the phaser on, the phaser off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 what equpiment are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Well i just have my amp but i have 4 efx on it: Phaser, Flanger, Chorus, Tremolo. And there are like 5 levels of distortion too. Then there is just like gain, bass etc. I've tried using a Heavy Distortion pedal too but not much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 So with all the effects turned off and the gain turned down it still sounds like noise? Turn all of your effects off then go down to the lowest gain setting you can and then work your way up until it sounds distorted without being noise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 So with all the effects turned off and the gain turned down it still sounds like noise? Turn all of your effects off then go down to the lowest gain setting you can and then work your way up until it sounds distorted without being noise... I normally dont have efx on except maybe phaser. Right ill try now, ill tell what its like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 BTW this is my amp Cube 30 http://www.roland.co.uk/prodcatdetail.asp?id=CUBE-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Mmmmmmm, its not much better unfortunately. And i know im definitely playin it rite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 use the R-Fier with about 6 gain and leave the effects off for a while. Have bass around 6-ish, middle around 7-ish, and treble around 5, I'm not sure what the EQ on that amp is like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Yes that a bit better, but i think the problem now is the fact that the distortion is not very good, its not like clear distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 well, just use different amp models. Try the Brit Gain (or whatever) on high-ish settings, that might be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 well, just use different amp models. Try the Brit Gain (or whatever) on high-ish settings, that might be better R-Fier is still the best but ill keep messin around with it until the noise stops. Thanks again by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britrock Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Play it on the clean channel to see if you're actually playing it right. When it sounds right clean, stick the old distortion on and rock away. Distortion hides a LOT of mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Yes i have tried that and it sounds fine but with distortion on all i can hear is a load of Drop D noise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandythrash Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 are you using singlecoils? cos i tried SS with singles and it sounded like a pile of bollocks too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJims Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 are you using singlecoils? cos i tried SS with singles and it sounded like a pile of bollocks too No its a humbucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doog Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 when he plays the song live the second half of the bridge is played right at the high end of the neck on the 6th string... D|--20--20--17--17---0---0--20--20--17--17---0---0--20--20--17--17-| |--19--19--15--15---0---0--19--19--15--15---0---0--19--19--15--15-| |--17--17--14--14---0---0--17--17--14--14---0---0--17--17--14--14-| |--17--17--13--13---0---0--17--17--13--13---0---0--17--17--13--13-| and then the bit on the 5th string... I guess it's less of a stretch to play it where the frets are closer together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alysum Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 hey guys, what Fuzz Factory setting do you use for this song ? I always use the high compression setting for playing muse (Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00) but it's not quite right for SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkaa Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 hey guys, what Fuzz Factory setting do you use for this song ? I always use the high compression setting for playing muse (Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00) but it's not quite right for SS. Does he even use the FF for this song?? Live?? Im confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alysum Posted July 26, 2004 Author Share Posted July 26, 2004 of course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doog Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 he put the signal from his guitar (complete with his onboard fuzz) straight into the sound board and combined it with a synth effect iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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