gocanux Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 My husband has asked me a few times now...."why are you now so obsessed?" Like he doesn't already know the answer. Basically...seeing them live is what ancored the obsession   You're right, Isabel, Muse does beccome an obsession. And the live experience is so far beyond even their recorded works. Your husband should know beter than to ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isabelyalex Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Well when the first song at the wiltern started my husband and I looked at each other....are they really playing? are they really singing? WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE THAT GOOD!!!!!!!! They sound better live than on their records. How many bands can you say that of? BTW  MTV2 Rock countdown yesturday:  #7 Franz Ferdinand #6 My Chemical Romance (cool video) #5 MUSE!!!!!!!!!! #4 Jimmy Eat World #3 Modest Mouse #2 The Killers #1 Green Day  GO AND VOTE ON MTV2's webpage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 All these talented and creative people make me feel inadequate. I was born utterly without talent in those areas, but I'm thankful that Muse more than make up for my lack. I'm quite good at what I CAN do (like performing major surgery!) but when I sing somethimes I hit notes that scare me and definitely alarm Muldoon, the cat. My grandmother from Cork, Ireland, was an opera singer, but no one seems to have inherited her talent. Can't draw or play an istrument either; oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Priest God Never Paid Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 All these talented and creative people make me feel inadequate. I was born utterly without talent in those areas, but I'm thankful that Muse more than make up for my lack. I'm quite good at what I CAN do (like performing major surgery!) but when I sing somethimes I hit notes that scare me and definitely alarm Muldoon, the cat. My grandmother from Cork, Ireland, was an opera singer, but no one seems to have inherited her talent. Can't draw or play an istrument either; oh well. Not too late to learn though I doubt drawing can be learned , playing an instrument can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passingcydonia Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Not too late to learn though I doubt drawing can be learned , playing an instrument can be. Drawing can be learned, you just have to want to learn it. Granted many artists have learned the basiscs of shadow, perspective, etc, long before adulthood, these are simple concepts that can be taught to adults. A lot of people say they'll never be able to do calculus or whatever, but I was a physics major for a long time and while it was hard for me, I still worked through it. People can do just about anything if they put their mind to it. At least that's my belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean5 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 What are hand extensions? My friend doesn't read music all that well either, and she has been playing for six years, hehehe. I read music well as a violinist, I've just lost it from not using it. I really don't think the violin is that hard actually. I had loads of trouble learning the guitar. I play the violin mounds better than the guitar. I really think the guitar is probably one of the hardest instruments to learn. Hand extensions is a little code my daughter and I made up when we play together on the piano - I play the left hand and she plays the right. It seems you're a very gifted person. As for myself, I couldn't draw portraits if my life depended on it, but I can paint watercolors. I think everybody has an artistic bone in them, and we just have to find it and explore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 24, 2004 Author Share Posted December 24, 2004 Drawing can be learned, you just have to want to learn it. Granted many artists have learned the basiscs of shadow, perspective, etc, long before adulthood, these are simple concepts that can be taught to adults. A lot of people say they'll never be able to do calculus or whatever, but I was a physics major for a long time and while it was hard for me, I still worked through it. People can do just about anything if they put their mind to it. At least that's my belief. Being able to learn the mechanics of drawing or music may enable anyone to do these things, at least to a degree, but many of us will never learn to do them WELL. I have managed some nice pastel still-lifes, but for me it was a very frustrating experience and involved way too much effort for the result produced. That's where natural talent comes in, so the activity (drawing, playing an instrument) becomes natural and fluid, and the results reflect it. Some of us are right-brain dominant and some left (for the life of me, I can never remember which is which). I have become comfortable with the fact that I may never produce anything artistic, but I can still appreciate those things. On the other hand, for me calculus was a fun class, like doing mathematical crossword puzzles. It's our innate differences which make it all so interesting! As a parent this becomes even more facinating, as you see the differences develop between kids who share the same genetic and environmental influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr._Enlightened Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Being able to learn the mechanics of drawing or music may enable anyone to do these things, at least to a degree, but many of us will never learn to do them WELL. I have managed some nice pastel still-lifes, but for me it was a very frustrating experience and involved way too much effort for the result produced. That's where natural talent comes in, so the activity (drawing, playing an instrument) becomes natural and fluid, and the results reflect it. Some of us are right-brain dominant and some left (for the life of me, I can never remember which is which). I have become comfortable with the fact that I may never produce anything artistic, but I can still appreciate those things. On the other hand, for me calculus was a fun class, like doing mathematical crossword puzzles. It's our innate differences which make it all so interesting! As a parent this becomes even more facinating, as you see the differences develop between kids who share the same genetic and environmental influences. Until two nights ago I thought something very similar, attempting to draw was frustrating then I sat down and started doodling the finished product was something loosely based on the Absolution angel silhouettes and for the first time ever I had produced exactly what I had set out to produce. I am wondering if this officially qualifies as a miracle and thus helps Muse on their way to St. Hood. INFACT. Let’s have a list of Muse Miracles and get them sainthoods!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 24, 2004 Author Share Posted December 24, 2004 And another reason I have to thank you, Chris, Dom and Matthew: you have cured my son! He was on crutches at the concert just last week, and now he walks. HE WALKS! Thank you for this miracle; now he doesn't have to play Tiny Tim in A Christmas Carol this year. Of course, the MRI showed a massive bone bruise and severe MCL sprain, but no major cartilage damage or dreaded ACL tear, but I'm convinced it was Muse who made him well! And you're absolutely right, Chris, soccer is a brutal sport. This post of mine was several pages back, Blissfully_Enlightened, so you might have missed it. But this certainly should qualify as a miracle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr._Enlightened Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I did see that, i have been following this thread and that was one of the comments that got me thinking about them. Can u formally arrange them into a new thread?? i wanna see a list of all the Muse Miracles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 25, 2004 Author Share Posted December 25, 2004 B_E, I don't know how to quote old posts in a new thread, but maybe one of the mods can help create a Muse Miracles thread. Happy Birthday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Priest God Never Paid Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Being able to learn the mechanics of drawing or music may enable anyone to do these things, at least to a degree, but many of us will never learn to do them WELL. I have managed some nice pastel still-lifes, but for me it was a very frustrating experience and involved way too much effort for the result produced. That's where natural talent comes in, so the activity (drawing, playing an instrument) becomes natural and fluid, and the results reflect it. Some of us are right-brain dominant and some left (for the life of me, I can never remember which is which). I have become comfortable with the fact that I may never produce anything artistic, but I can still appreciate those things. On the other hand, for me calculus was a fun class, like doing mathematical crossword puzzles. It's our innate differences which make it all so interesting! As a parent this becomes even more facinating, as you see the differences develop between kids who share the same genetic and environmental influences. Ugh, I absolutely despise Math. Anyways, gocanux, I'm sure you can create something very artistic. I know several people that think they're not artistic, the problem is they think something needs to be "pretty" looking or sound very "pretty" to be beautiful or artisitc which is not the case. John Cage is a musical genius according to some people yet his work is very VERY unconventional. So our talent and our tools are out there we just need to be more aware of them. Happy Holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatbigsquirrel Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Muse Miracles? have you been smoking CRACK? i know that sounds really mean, but you guys are taking this a bit to far. please don't make a thread like that. please. *offers the hypernut of good sense* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 25, 2004 Author Share Posted December 25, 2004 Hopefully, squirrelly, you can tell from the tone of my posts that I'm not at all serious. Can't speak for Blissfully_Enlightened, though; I mean, with a name like that, maybe he or she is going to start a new cult based on the teachings of Muse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatbigsquirrel Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 *sigh* *shakes head in pity* we need to find something to do other than hang out on here. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passingcydonia Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Until two nights ago I thought something very similar, attempting to draw was frustrating then I sat down and started doodling the finished product was something loosely based on the Absolution angel silhouettes and for the first time ever I had produced exactly what I had set out to produce. I am wondering if this officially qualifies as a miracle and thus helps Muse on their way to St. Hood. INFACT. Let’s have a list of Muse Miracles and get them sainthoods!!! I think the sainthood thing, and miracle thing might be going a little too far, but uh... Otherwise I think it's great you accomplished something you are pleased with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean5 Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas filled with peace love and Muse !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 25, 2004 Author Share Posted December 25, 2004 Just adding my wishes for you all, to enjoy a holiday season and new year filled with love, good health, happiness, and Muse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simno Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I guess this is the best thread to say, thanks so much for putting on the Earls Court gig's, best advanced Christmas present ever! Cheers Muse! Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatbigsquirrel Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 whoo! merry chrismahannakwanzica! lol extending my squirrelly wishes to everyone, no matter what you worship.. be it some god or pot, ants or acorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 And a Happy Boxing Day to those of you who recognize this "holiday"! (Does it have anything to do with Fight Club?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatbigsquirrel Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 i wish. a day for beating people's asses? i would be all over that like the white on the rice i had for dinner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 27, 2004 Author Share Posted December 27, 2004 Thank you, Muse gods, for showing me the way to a genuine copy of Origin of Symmetry! It's an import from Australia on the Mushroom label---is that the label all Aussie copies were sold under? Not Maverick? I don't really care; it's a miracle (oh, no, don't tell blissfully_enlightened, he or she will be lobbying for Muse sainthood again). It's especially miraculous, as I have been looking at every store that sells CD's in this area, and where did I find it??? Borders! (If they don't have Borders where you are, it's a big corporate chain book/music store) Happy happy Christmas for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean5 Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Looked all over even Borders and couldn't find OOS - ended up ordering it off Ebay (Australian label too). Found Showbiz locally, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanux Posted December 27, 2004 Author Share Posted December 27, 2004 I had looked at at least 25-30 stores in Tacoma and Seattle, and there it was at Borders! Showbiz is easier to find here. And now there are virtually no copies of Absolution to be found, as my sons' friends gave copies to everyone they knew for Christmas! Musevangelists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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