Lick My Face Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Well, your 1 x 12" combo probably isn't powerful enough to cover all your lows. If you had something like a shroeder (sp?) 1 x 12" and a head, then that would be powerful enough for everything. If you fancy a bi-amp set up, I would get a cheapish 1 x 15" combo at least 200W and add a guitar 1 or 2 x 12" combo at least 50W. If you like your current combo, you could add a 1 x15" or 1 x 12" extension cab to it and that would help a lot. Yeeeeah, I like what I've got at the moment, it all comes out surprisingly well, I think. But yeah, I'd love for the lows to be handled better, so it looks like I'll be looking at a 1x15 cab at some point. Most likely Christmas, judging from the money situation, and given it's nonetoofar away now. Also, MY PHASER CAAAME! MXR Phase 90, sounds sweeeeeet!
matthijs Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Well, your 1 x 12" combo probably isn't powerful enough to cover all your lows. If you had something like a shroeder (sp?) 1 x 12" and a head, then that would be powerful enough for everything. If you fancy a bi-amp set up, I would get a cheapish 1 x 15" combo at least 200W and add a guitar 1 or 2 x 12" combo at least 50W. If you like your current combo, you could add a 1 x15" or 1 x 12" extension cab to it and that would help a lot. would you recommend getting a smaller speaker (e.g. 1x10" extension cab?) just for the use of micing it up live?
cheddatom Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 would you recommend getting a smaller speaker (e.g. 1x10" extension cab?) just for the use of micing it up live? Are you talking about getting more top end? I would just EQ that before the DI you give the soundman. If you had the 1 x10" on a crossover, it would give you a lot more top end, but as you probably don't have that option I don't think it will make a significant difference to your tone. IMHO when it comes to bass tone, you have to either get your sound right before it goes into your amp(s) and give the soundman a DI, or you have to get it right coming out of the amps and get the soundman to mic it. It's a lot simpler and easier for gigging if you do the first option. Obviously if you get your signal perfect and then feed it to a shit rig, you'll probably start fucking with it again and then the soundman will have a shit DI signal, so a flattish rig is necessary if you want to do that.
matthijs Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 what I do when I play live using is a crossover of DI and Mic to get my sound. However I prefer mic'ing a 10" speaker over a 15" speaker. So that's why I'm wondering about that, because a 15" speaker sounds really badass on stage but I'd prefer to keep my rig low on weight so if I could use a 1x10" instead of a 2 or 4x10" that'd save me some backinjuries (currently looking to replace everything ampwise).
cheddatom Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 If you get a cab with a neo speaker it won't weight much. You can get light 1 x 15"s these days! I think if you had just a 1 x 10" micd, and a DI through the PA, then it would probably osund great front-of-house but you wouldn't hear the low end on stage, which would be frustrating. If you like the sound of a 15", either a neo 1 x 12" or 1 x 15" would be your best bet.
matthijs Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 well that's what I meant.. i like the 15" on stage but I would want a 10" for micing 15" + 10" miced ?
cheddatom Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 well that's what I meant.. i like the 15" on stage but I would want a 10" for micing 15" + 10" miced ? Right, a bit of a language barrier here I think! I thought that you were happy with your sound using a 1 x 15" but wanted something lighter. Yes, if you already know that you like the sound of a mic on a 10" then get a 1 x 10" and put it ontop of your 15". EQ the bass out of the mic'd signal and use the DI for all the bottom end. Your main problem is this - if you have an equal amount of power going to a 15" and a 10", and you turn it up, chances are you'll blow the 10". I don't know enough about power rating and impedence etc to give you anything definitive here. I reckon some 1 x 10"s would be fine, and most 2 x 10"s would be fine. It really depends on your amp. What is it? EDIT: The advantage of using two amps is that you have two completely different power sections so you can use whatever combination of 2 speaker set-ups you want without worrying about blowing them up.
matthijs Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 yeah as long as I will get an amp with 2 different speaker exits and make sure the ohms of both cabs match, the section on impedence on basschat is really good.
Lick My Face Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 So, I'm thinking of getting an extension cab on my combo (Electric Blue, 12" so a 15" is in order, really). Do I have to match the Impedence ratings on the ext. cab? Or can they be higher or lower? /electronics n00b EDIT: While the above question applies, what's the consensus on the following: http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_115tvx_4ohm.htm? Bearing in mind I'm looking for more bottom end than anything else.
cheddatom Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 Matt - Sorry, I was getting you mixed up with SS - you're talking about making a whole new rig! Cool. Well, perhaps a 1 x 15" cab with a tweeter in it would suit you? You could have the tweeter miced. SS - I really like peavey cabs. Their 1 x 15"s deffinitely have plenty of low end. I would try and fine a used one though, you'd save money. EDIT: And take Matt's advice, check out the section on impedence on http://www.basschat.co.uk
Lick My Face Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 SS - I really like peavey cabs. Their 1 x 15"s deffinitely have plenty of low end. I would try and fine a used one though, you'd save money. EDIT: And take Matt's advice, check out the section on impedence on http://www.basschat.co.uk Took a look on eBay for some used Peavey cabs, one caught my eye, looks pretty good. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=130261579598&Category=58719&_trksid=p3907.m29 Thing is, I'm thinking Christmas, so with the bidding ending on Thursday, that's not particularly useful for me. P'raps I should wait closer the time?
cheddatom Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 Yeh there's always deals like that on used peavey cabs. You might find some in the shops if you have any half-decent local music shops.
Lick My Face Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 Yeh there's always deals like that on used peavey cabs. You might find some in the shops if you have any half-decent local music shops. Alas, we don't. All been closed down thanks to the Internet (allegedly). But yeah, I'll dig around, see what I can find.
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