Zepp 11 Posted December 7, 2018 True, it's a little bit odd but nothing extraordinary imo. In the period before the SBE show there were only 8 gigs in the US, and it got played in the first 5 and only disappeared for 3 gigs + 2 gigs in Canada before reappearing right before SBE. It's not hard to imagine that there might have been somethig wrong with his guitar back then. I mean, it wouldn't make sense for them to drop it intentionally as they've always recognised it as a consensual staple for both hardcore and casual fans, even less so after playing it 5 times in a row Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominic. 10 Posted December 7, 2018 Still never forgetting the weird part in The 2nd Law tour where they dropped Plug In Baby exclusively for the US. I still don't know what was up with that. Because Origin of Symmetry wasn't released in the States Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kueller 105 Posted December 7, 2018 I do hold that to some wider significance though because it was kinda the point where PiB stopped being a complete staple. It never really came back for every show in the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel_Tufnel 10 Posted December 8, 2018 For me, the omission of Plug In Baby is more significant than the song itself. What it often means is that they end up playing nothing off of Origin of Symmetry, regarded by so many fans as their best album. They can play Bliss, Citizen Erased or New Born and it would be even better. If they can't even throw the fans an obvious bone like PIB, it's a damn shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halo eighteen 11 Posted December 8, 2018 Because Origin of Symmetry wasn't released in the States It was, just not in 2001, but they stopped playing here until 2004 anyway, and there was no shortage of Symmetry songs when they came back. I think it got a proper release around 2005 with a snarky sticker on it that said it contained "songs featured at live shows like New Born, Bliss and Feeling Good!" Some of those early US gigs got Muscle Museum, Micro Cuts and Space Dementia even. They didn't always treat Americans as being completely uneducated to their music, or if they did, they seemed to make a genuine effort to change that. Albeit, one that didn't last long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clunge 35 Posted December 8, 2018 Difference is in 2004/05, they just had less songs in general. Origin made up a decent chunk of most sets - New Born, Bliss, Plug In Baby and Citizen Erased were almost always played, Space Dementia and Micro Cuts popped up here and there, think even Dead Star got a look in from time to time. Back then though, it didn't matter - Muse were new to just about everyone who went along, it didn't really matter what had been released where and when. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keepquiettt 10 Posted December 9, 2018 Hello experts, After the RAH show the other day I´m super hyped and want to see Muse again and I am thinking of the next gig! I live in London but willing to travel within the UK and Europe if the venue/crowd is going to be especially good. I was thinking Bristol... as it sounds quite special. But Madrid is also high on my list (I'm spaniard and it´s the last show on the European leg) as well as Rome (the videos from those gigs are sooo energetic) Any recommendations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forevermusic 10 Posted December 9, 2018 The guitar was broken after the SBE show iirc Upon checking, PIB did indeed return in Toronto in April 2013 as soon as the Mirror got repaired Was a hell of a smash at that one - into the bass drum skin, then bits flew off the guitar after Matt bashed it against his amp, and then it nearly hit Dom while crashing off all of the cymbals on his left. Most the guitar chucking Matt does is quite tame by comparison. Except for that comedy one at a US 2nd Law gig where he chucked it once against the amp and it broke the neck off, leading to him just standing around like a lemon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobby 100 Posted December 9, 2018 What’s supposed to be special about Bristol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyP117 11 Posted December 9, 2018 Hello experts, I was thinking Bristol... as it sounds quite special. But Madrid is also high on my list (I'm spaniard and it´s the last show on the European leg) as well as Rome (the videos from those gigs are sooo energetic) Any recommendations? The Bristol gig will be the smallest UK venue by some margin but that's it really. The 2013 Coventry Ricoh gig was great as it felt quite intimate for a 'big outdoor show', but it was still the same show as the others on that tour, rotated songs aside. Bristol will be the same as Manchester and London Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keepquiettt 10 Posted December 10, 2018 The Bristol gig will be the smallest UK venue by some margin but that's it really. The 2013 Coventry Ricoh gig was great as it felt quite intimate for a 'big outdoor show', but it was still the same show as the others on that tour, rotated songs aside. Bristol will be the same as Manchester and London Yeah, that's sort of what I meant Not special as in track choice. At this point I guess it's about making a choice based on the venue/the crowd, and I thought that Bristol would be more intimate being about half the capacity of London Stadium (or any other locations I am considering ie. Rome/Madrid) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobby 100 Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Can’t speak for some of the smaller places but, yeah, Italy, France and Manchester should get you a good crowd. Japan is v good too, guessing you don’t mean that far though. I might go next year, depending. Edited December 10, 2018 by Jobby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keepquiettt 10 Posted December 10, 2018 Can’t speak for some of the smaller places but, yeah, Italy, France and Manchester should get you a good crowd. Japan is v good too, guessing you don’t mean that far though. I might go next year, depending. No I wasn't planning on going that far. However, Japan is on my list of places to visit and if it means getting a chance of "Can't take my eyes off you".... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
czuczu 12 Posted December 10, 2018 Hello experts, After the RAH show the other day I´m super hyped and want to see Muse again and I am thinking of the next gig! I live in London but willing to travel within the UK and Europe if the venue/crowd is going to be especially good. I was thinking Bristol... as it sounds quite special. But Madrid is also high on my list (I'm spaniard and it´s the last show on the European leg) as well as Rome (the videos from those gigs are sooo energetic) Any recommendations? Rome, definitely. Very noisy, boisterous crowd - brilliant gigs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forevermusic 10 Posted December 10, 2018 Can honestly admit I've not heard of Walk the Moon, but I presume the confirmation they're opening the newly added NYC/Chicago gigs makes them a likely opener for the rest of the tour. Also begs the question of when are they intending to do Los Angeles? If it is with the other California shows in early March, and its being held back until this special iHeartRadio thing, time isn't exactly there for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kueller 105 Posted December 10, 2018 I think that's great use of one of the vocal break slots, to play some hometown-related stuff. Hope they keep that going. I think this could be fun. Think of the "hometown jam" they could do throughout the tour (or the typical stops they might not have announced yet). Enter Sandman again for the Bay Area? Nirvana in Seattle? Fucking nothing in the midwest? Breaking out the accordion in Paris? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Claudia O 113 Posted December 10, 2018 Metallica did this in Europe lately, in Vienna they played, and the audience sang, "Rock me Amadeus" by Falco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luigi. 10 Posted December 11, 2018 I think this could be fun. Think of the "hometown jam" they could do throughout the tour (or the typical stops they might not have announced yet). Enter Sandman again for the Bay Area? Nirvana in Seattle? Fucking nothing in the midwest? Breaking out the accordion in Paris? How 'bout some Green Day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clunge 35 Posted December 11, 2018 Can’t wait for The Wurzels cover when they get to Bristol then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthijs 10,020 Posted December 11, 2018 Can’t wait for The Wurzels cover when they get to Bristol then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedFloozy 19 Posted December 11, 2018 Can’t wait for The Wurzels cover when they get to Bristol then. :LOL: And there was me contemplating Cigarettes and Alcohol at the Etihad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
That Little Animal 75 Posted December 11, 2018 Fucking nothing in the midwest? Prince! Or Ted Nugent, but then nothing is better indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicklord 10 Posted December 11, 2018 Please don't do Prince like Metallica did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
That Little Animal 75 Posted December 11, 2018 Please don't do Prince like Metallica did Oh shit. I just Googled that. Wtf? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Picko 10 Posted December 11, 2018 If they do Prince then won't they just do Sign O' The Times? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites