Simulation Theory tour discussion

[Zepp 11]

True, it's a little bit odd but nothing extraordinary imo. In the period before the SBE show there were only 8 gigs in the US, and it got played in the first 5 and only disappeared for 3 gigs + 2 gigs in Canada before reappearing right before SBE.

 

It's not hard to imagine that there might have been somethig wrong with his guitar back then. I mean, it wouldn't make sense for them to drop it intentionally as they've always recognised it as a consensual staple for both hardcore and casual fans, even less so after playing it 5 times in a row

[Dominic. 10]

Still never forgetting the weird part in The 2nd Law tour where they dropped Plug In Baby exclusively for the US. I still don't know what was up with that.

Because Origin of Symmetry wasn't released in the States

[kueller 113]

I do hold that to some wider significance though because it was kinda the point where PiB stopped being a complete staple. It never really came back for every show in the same way.

[Nigel_Tufnel 10]

For me, the omission of Plug In Baby is more significant than the song itself. What it often means is that they end up playing nothing off of Origin of Symmetry, regarded by so many fans as their best album. They can play Bliss, Citizen Erased or New Born and it would be even better. If they can't even throw the fans an obvious bone like PIB, it's a damn shame.

[halo eighteen 11]

Because Origin of Symmetry wasn't released in the States

 

It was, just not in 2001, but they stopped playing here until 2004 anyway, and there was no shortage of Symmetry songs when they came back. I think it got a proper release around 2005 with a snarky sticker on it that said it contained "songs featured at live shows like New Born, Bliss and Feeling Good!" Some of those early US gigs got Muscle Museum, Micro Cuts and Space Dementia even. They didn't always treat Americans as being completely uneducated to their music, or if they did, they seemed to make a genuine effort to change that. Albeit, one that didn't last long.

[Clunge 35]

Difference is in 2004/05, they just had less songs in general. Origin made up a decent chunk of most sets - New Born, Bliss, Plug In Baby and Citizen Erased were almost always played, Space Dementia and Micro Cuts popped up here and there, think even Dead Star got a look in from time to time. Back then though, it didn't matter - Muse were new to just about everyone who went along, it didn't really matter what had been released where and when.

[keepquiettt 10]

Hello experts,

 

After the RAH show the other day I´m super hyped and want to see Muse again and I am thinking of the next gig! I live in London but willing to travel within the UK and Europe if the venue/crowd is going to be especially good.

 

I was thinking Bristol... as it sounds quite special. But Madrid is also high on my list (I'm spaniard and it´s the last show on the European leg) as well as Rome (the videos from those gigs are sooo energetic)

 

Any recommendations?

[forevermusic 10]

The guitar was broken after the SBE show iirc

 

Upon checking, PIB did indeed return in Toronto in April 2013 as soon as the Mirror got repaired

Was a hell of a smash at that one - into the bass drum skin, then bits flew off the guitar after Matt bashed it against his amp, and then it nearly hit Dom while crashing off all of the cymbals on his left.

 

Most the guitar chucking Matt does is quite tame by comparison. Except for that comedy one at a US 2nd Law gig where he chucked it once against the amp and it broke the neck off, leading to him just standing around like a lemon.

[Jobby 108]

What’s supposed to be special about Bristol?

[JimmyP117 11]

Hello experts,

 

I was thinking Bristol... as it sounds quite special. But Madrid is also high on my list (I'm spaniard and it´s the last show on the European leg) as well as Rome (the videos from those gigs are sooo energetic)

 

Any recommendations?

 

The Bristol gig will be the smallest UK venue by some margin but that's it really. The 2013 Coventry Ricoh gig was great as it felt quite intimate for a 'big outdoor show', but it was still the same show as the others on that tour, rotated songs aside. Bristol will be the same as Manchester and London

[keepquiettt 10]

The Bristol gig will be the smallest UK venue by some margin but that's it really. The 2013 Coventry Ricoh gig was great as it felt quite intimate for a 'big outdoor show', but it was still the same show as the others on that tour, rotated songs aside. Bristol will be the same as Manchester and London

 

Yeah, that's sort of what I meant Not special as in track choice. At this point I guess it's about making a choice based on the venue/the crowd, and I thought that Bristol would be more intimate being about half the capacity of London Stadium (or any other locations I am considering ie. Rome/Madrid)

[Jobby 108]

Can’t speak for some of the smaller places but, yeah, Italy, France and Manchester should get you a good crowd.

 

Japan is v good too, guessing you don’t mean that far though. I might go next year, depending.

Edited December 10, 2018 by Jobby

[keepquiettt 10]

Can’t speak for some of the smaller places but, yeah, Italy, France and Manchester should get you a good crowd.

 

Japan is v good too, guessing you don’t mean that far though. I might go next year, depending.

 

No I wasn't planning on going that far. However, Japan is on my list of places to visit and if it means getting a chance of "Can't take my eyes off you"....

[czuczu 12]

Hello experts,

 

After the RAH show the other day I´m super hyped and want to see Muse again and I am thinking of the next gig! I live in London but willing to travel within the UK and Europe if the venue/crowd is going to be especially good.

 

I was thinking Bristol... as it sounds quite special. But Madrid is also high on my list (I'm spaniard and it´s the last show on the European leg) as well as Rome (the videos from those gigs are sooo energetic)

 

Any recommendations?

 

Rome, definitely.

Very noisy, boisterous crowd - brilliant gigs

[forevermusic 10]

Can honestly admit I've not heard of Walk the Moon, but I presume the confirmation they're opening the newly added NYC/Chicago gigs makes them a likely opener for the rest of the tour.

 

Also begs the question of when are they intending to do Los Angeles? If it is with the other California shows in early March, and its being held back until this special iHeartRadio thing, time isn't exactly there for it.

[kueller 113]

I think that's great use of one of the vocal break slots, to play some hometown-related stuff. Hope they keep that going.

 

I think this could be fun. Think of the "hometown jam" they could do throughout the tour (or the typical stops they might not have announced yet). Enter Sandman again for the Bay Area? Nirvana in Seattle? Fucking nothing in the midwest? Breaking out the accordion in Paris?

[Claudia O 132]

Metallica did this in Europe lately, in Vienna they played, and the audience sang, "Rock me Amadeus" by Falco

[Luigi. 10]

I think this could be fun. Think of the "hometown jam" they could do throughout the tour (or the typical stops they might not have announced yet). Enter Sandman again for the Bay Area? Nirvana in Seattle? Fucking nothing in the midwest? Breaking out the accordion in Paris?

How 'bout some Green Day?

[Clunge 35]

Can’t wait for The Wurzels cover when they get to Bristol then.

[matthijs 10,020]

Can’t wait for The Wurzels cover when they get to Bristol then.

 

[BlueEyedFloozy 19]

Can’t wait for The Wurzels cover when they get to Bristol then.

 

:LOL:

 

And there was me contemplating Cigarettes and Alcohol at the Etihad

[That Little Animal 80]

Fucking nothing in the midwest?

 

Prince!

 

Or Ted Nugent, but then nothing is better indeed.

[Nicklord 10]

Please don't do Prince like Metallica did

[That Little Animal 80]

Please don't do Prince like Metallica did

 

Oh shit. I just Googled that.

 

Wtf?

[Picko 10]

If they do Prince then won't they just do Sign O' The Times?