Doos Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Really impressed that they played Eternally Missed. I loved that song when I was a Muse megafan and I can always hear why Muse fans love it. I listen now and I can see why it didn't make an album - honestly it's kind of a mess conceptually, there are parts I love and parts I could do without. It's no surprise at all that they don't play it, which is what makes it really nice that Muse did so by request. Completely agree. It's one of the first songs I fell in love with back in 2003 but it was never album material. Maybe on a Hullabaloo kind of album with all the B-Sides, but not as an A-side song. I was at the gig yesterday and I cried when they started playing that, it was such a surprise. I knew they would play some rarities of course, but I expected Fury or Dead Star, but definitely not Eternally Missed, not even at a by request gig like this. And then they played Space Dementia, one of my favourite album songs that I had never seen before, so I cried again. Showbiz, Muscle Museum, Assassin, Agitated, Yes Please, Fury, all first time live for me, it was brilliant, best gig ever. And they had so much fun! I expected Dig Down to be on the setlist as well, very surprised that it wasn't. One major point of criticism for La Cigale (which is a lovely small venue): I went in with my big black backpack, and no one checked it. I was 5 metres from the stage on Chris's side, with my backpack, I could have easily brought multiple guns/explosives/anything, I was at a perfect vantage point to cause absolute mayhem. I expected a good level of security at such a venue in Paris, but no, security was none existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Halfway through now. Good stuff. I think Matt is selling their new stuff a bit short with his comments in between and the setlist. It's not like critical fans hate ALL their new stuff when they complain about recent lackluster setlists of recent tours. Playing Reapers or Animals or MK Ultra wouldn't have bothered anyone. Not that I'm complaining personally, this was great, I just don't want them to think they need to stick purely to the older "deep cuts". Anyway. Spiral Static has to be featured next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 And Citizen Erased is still a goddamn fucking CHOON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Really impressed that they played Eternally Missed. I loved that song when I was a Muse megafan and I can always hear why Muse fans love it. I listen now and I can see why it didn't make an album - honestly it's kind of a mess conceptually, there are parts I love and parts I could do without. It's no surprise at all that they don't play it, which is what makes it really nice that Muse did so by request. I remember when Absolution came out Matt said they thought it was the best thing they'd ever done when they first wrote it, but then once the album started coming together they were over it realized it really wasn't that amazing after all. I still think it's great though. It just reminds me of a good time when they were experimenting with new songs live and just really had a great energy and sound going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatihA19 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 a little question !! why did they removed the full gig from their youtube channel ? i mean okay i watched it 3 times now but this gig must be somewhere everytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginOfAbso Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I remember when Absolution came out Matt said they thought it was the best thing they'd ever done when they first wrote it, but then once the album started coming together they were over it realized it really wasn't that amazing after all. I still think it's great though. It just reminds me of a good time when they were experimenting with new songs live and just really had a great energy and sound going. I thought Matt said he thought Fury was the best thing they'd ever done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I thought Matt said he thought Fury was the best thing they'd ever done?He might have. That doesn’t go against what That Little Animal said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just heard Plug In Baby from this what even was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He might have. That doesn’t go against what That Little Animal said. I may be wrong about this as it was a long time ago, but I remember he didn't actually name the song he was talking about, just that they loved one of the songs they played before recording the album, and then ended up disliking it and tossing it. I always assumed it was about Eternally Missed because they really never played that one again whereas Fury has made several appearances throughout the years. As far as I know Matt has never said a bad thing about Fury, in fact, he lamented the fact that TSP ended up on the album instead of it. EDIT: Musewiki confirms: "In the Making of Absolution documentary, Matt talks about how by the time they got to recording Absolution, they felt Eternally Missed was one of their best songs. However, after recording the album, Matt said he did not think it would even become a b-side." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginOfAbso Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He might have. That doesn’t go against what That Little Animal said. I was just responding to the first sentence of his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I was just responding to the first sentence of his post. Yeah but I feel like you misunderstand what he said. Matt never actually said it was the best song or one of their favourites, he said “we thought it was the best when we went into the studio but changed our minds after hearing the recorded version” basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginOfAbso Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I may be wrong about this as it was a long time ago, but I remember he didn't actually name the song he was talking about, just that they loved one of the songs they played before recording the album, and then ended up disliking it and tossing it. I always assumed it was about Eternally Missed because they really never played that one again whereas Fury has made several appearances throughout the years. As far as I know Matt has never said a bad thing about Fury, in fact, he lamented the fact that TSP ended up on the album instead of it. EDIT: Musewiki confirms: "In the Making of Absolution documentary, Matt talks about how by the time they got to recording Absolution, they felt Eternally Missed was one of their best songs. However, after recording the album, Matt said he did not think it would even become a b-side." Oh ok, gotcha. I just remembered Matt saying in some interviews that he thought Fury was the best song they'd ever written but Chris and Dom voted for The Small Print to make the album instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginOfAbso Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Yeah but I feel like you misunderstand what he said. Matt never actually said it was the best song or one of their favourites, he said “we thought it was the best when we went into the studio but changed our minds after hearing the recorded version” basically. I see. Sorry if I misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 He sang waaaay way deeper way more hero vocal in 2011. Go back and listen to it. This is a nice middle ground between earlier whinier years and full blown hero vocal. What does "hero vocal" actually mean? The effects on it? Or vocal stylistics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 What does "hero vocal" actually mean? The effects on it? Or vocal stylistics? It's just a nickname people gave to the overdramatic style Matt was really fond of during that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Did he ever actually stop doing the bliss falsetto? Can’t remember the last time I saw it but he did it at mancs acad underrated the best recent version was that one from Mayan during Drones promo....pro shot on youtube ! Insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 To give some examples of Bliss without falsetto (but with an added, shorter falsetto a bit later to make up for it most of the time): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenAroused Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Have you heard about the Elle Evans incident at the gig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Have you heard about the Elle Evans incident at the gig? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenAroused Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 ? https://www.reddit.com/r/Muse/comments/80ntqk/something_that_ruined_la_cigale_for_me/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Huh, messy. Would be a bit quick to jump on a witch hunt for Elle though imo. If Tom says there was just a mistake w/ the seating, I imagine she may well have reserved that seat privately earlier on with no idea who was or would be sitting there. She might not have even known after the fact. That said, it obvs should’ve been reported back to her that those seats were taken by disabled people and that something else would have to be arranged. I can understand being in the heat of setting up an imminent gig but it shouldn’t have been too difficult to simply find some other seats, like the VIP ones the person was offered. And shushing nearby fans (if true) is outright shitty, though surprising I’ll admit. Also bit much for people to start speculating that Matt and Tom were ‘livid’ as well. It’s not uncommon at all for members of the band to rush off from a gig without talking to anyone and Tom has a pretty intensive job, particularly at this show as he was apparently translating instructions to crew in French throughout. Even if they were unhappy about something, we have literally no evidence to start connecting any behind-the-scenes dots. Could’ve just as easily been that he’d just heard about the backlash to his comment on American fans. Edit: Does vaguely remind me of a short-ish moment at Belfast Vital last year though. Sometime through the middle of the gig, she and a friend were escorted to the middle of the ‘no mans land’ bit between the barriers w/ a few security and torches (iirc, kinda foggy ngl) so they could film, dance and ting. Was a little obnoxious and distracting but they got told to leave by festival security before it could get actually annoying. Obvs nowhere near comparitive to this situation though, just a couple of similarish elements. Edited February 28, 2018 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 The OP seems to say he clearly heard that the "mix up" was that Elle wasn't happy with her seats, and they were relocating her because of that. Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ah, well that is fucked then. Should’ve just been told no if that was the case. Either way, something definitely needs to be said - an explanation/apology from the band’s management and maybe Elle herself, and some form of compensation for the fan involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Not surprised in the slightest. Awful behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Not surprised in the slightest. Awful behaviour. Why aren't you surprised? Because you don't like the band? Because I'm surprised, but then again I don't tend to follow the gossip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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