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I wonder how native speakers of English deal with the lyrics sometimes. :LOL: As a non-native speaker I find it easy to just ignore how bad certain lines sound (not the Rio one though), so maybe that makes Muse more easily enjoyable for us.

English isn't my native language and it was still impossible for me to deal with the lyrics on Drones.

 

OOS

Absolution

BHAH

 

Showbizz

TR/T2L

 

Drones

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Am I really the only one who digs T2L? Like, again, it's far from the best stuff they've done but it's not complete garbage like people seem to say.

 

No, don't worry. I dig it, too. I'm very far from being a raging fan of it, bit I think it's bashed more then it deserves, considering it has a good bunch of underrated songs, like Explorers or Big Freeze.

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They are probably my two least favourite album tracks across their entire discography. :LOL:

 

They're better than Psycho, IMO. Explorers has quite of a "magic" atmosphere despite of the hamfisted lyrics; Big Freeze has a lot of sway and energy for being a pop-rock song, and the lyrics aren't bad as many make them to be.

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stellar clouds of

 

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Sometimes I feel like people on this board get stuck too much on the lyrics. Like, come on, it's U2 as fuck, but the music is at least good.

 

Okay, fine, now that we've gone this far, let me say this:

 

Great songs on T2L: Animals

Good songs on T2L: Supremacy, Panic Station, Survival, Big Freeze, Liquid State, T2L: Unsustainable

OK songs on T2L: T2L: IS, Madness, Follow Me

Fuck off: Prelude, Explorers, Save Me

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Sometimes I feel like people on this board get stuck too much on the lyrics. Like, come on, it's U2 as fuck, but the music is at least good.

 

Okay, fine, now that we've gone this far, let me say this:

 

Great songs on T2L: Animals

Good songs on T2L: Supremacy, Panic Station, Survival, Big Freeze, Liquid State, T2L: Unsustainable

OK songs on T2L: T2L: IS, Madness, Follow Me

Fuck off: Prelude, Explorers, Save Me

 

Poor Explorers and poor IS... :(

Mine would go like this:

 

Great: Panic Station, Animals, Big Freeze, Isolated System.

Good: Supremacy, Madness, Prelude, Survival, Explorers, Unsustainable (this walks the line between good and great).

OK: Follow Me, Save Me.

So-so: Liquid State (good lyrics, but the song seems structurally half baked).

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Amazing: Isolated System

Great: Animals

Good: Supremacy, Panic Station

Decent/Okay: Follow Me, Survival, Explorers, Big Freeze

Pretty bad: Madness, Save Me, Liquid State, Unsustainable

 

But the biggest issue for me is that it just doesn't work as an album, which is very important to me. Muse can talk about the death of the album as much as they want, but I'm not interested in listening a random collection of songs.

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ORIGIN OF SYMMETRY

Wonderful: NB, SD, MC, Megalomania.

Great: Bliss, PIB, CE, Screenager.

Good: Hyper Music, Darkshines, Feeling Good.

 

ABSOLUTION

Wonderful: SS, BAH, Hysteria.

Great: AP, FAWY, TOADA, RBS.

Good: TIRO, SFA, Blackout, Endlessly, TSP.

 

BLACK HOLES & REVELATIONS

Wonderful: Hoodoo, KOC.

Great: TAB, SMBH, MOTP, Invincible, Assassin, COD.

Good: Starlight, Soldier's Poem, Assassin.

OK: Exo-Politics.

 

THE RESISTANCE

Wonderful: Exo2, Exo3.

Great: Resistance, Undisclosed Desires, MK Ultra, IBTY, Exo1.

Good: USOE, Guiding Light, US.

OK: Uprising.

 

DRONES

Wonderful: DI, Reapers.

Great: The Handler, Defector, Revolt, Drones.

Good: Mercy, Aftermath, The Globalist.

OK: Psycho.

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Supremacy - 4/10

Madness - 6/10

Panic Station - 7/10

Survival - 5/10

Follow Me - 5/10

Animals - 7.5/10

Explorers - 4/10

Big Freeze - 2/10

Save Me - 3/10

Liquid State - 5.5/10

Unsustainable - 3/10

Isolated System - 8/10

 

Taken in combination w/ what Tjet said about it not working as an album.

 

it's U2 as fuck, but the music is at least good.

 

impossible combo

 

(also I quoted the lyrics because their post literally brought them up)

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Great songs on T2L:

 

Supremacy

Madness

Panic Station

Prelude/Survival

Animals

Isolated System

 

Good songs on T2L:

 

Explorers (but this is the third time in a row they used that Keane melody, see Invincible and GL)

 

Passable songs on T2L:

Big Freeze

Liquid State

Save Me

Unsustainable

 

Would rather not hear again:

Follow Me

 

T2L has a lot of greats, but the lows are just as numerous. Certainly I can enjoy pretty much everything here, but to put it up against OoS or even BH&R, nah, it just doesn't meet the mark.

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ORIGIN OF SYMMETRY

Great: New Born, Bliss, Space Dementia, Hyper Music, Plug in Baby, Citizen Erased, Micro Cuts

Good: Darkshines, Megalomania

Ok: Screenager, Feeling Good

 

ABSOLUTION

Great: AP, SS, Hysteria, Blackout, RBS, Endlessly,

Good: TIRO, B&H, ToaDA,

Ok: SfA, TSP, FAWY

 

BLACK HOLES & REVELATIONS

Great: TaB, MoTP, Assassin, Hoodoo, KOC.

Good: Starlight, SMBH, Soldier's Poem, CoD,

Ok: Invincible, Exo-Politics,

 

SHOWBIZ

Great: Sunburn, Muscle Museum, Falling Down, Cave, Showbiz

Good: Fillip, Uno, Hate This and i'll Love You

Ok: Escape

Nope: Sober, Overdue

 

T2L

Great: Animals, IS

Good: Panic Station, Follow Me, Liquid Sate, Uns

Ok: Supremacy, Madness, Survival, Save Me

Nope: Explorers, Big Freeze

 

THE RESISTANCE

Great: Undisclosed Desires, Exo 1-2-3

Good: Uprising, MK Ultra, IBTY

Ok: USoE, US

Nope: Resistance, Guiding Light

 

DRONES

Great: Reapers, The Handler

Good: Psycho, Drones

Ok: Dead Inside, Defector, The Globalist

Nope: Mercy, Aftermath, Revolt

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Showbiz:

Great: Showbiz, Sunburn, HTAILY,

Good: Cave, Muscle Museum, Falling Down

Ok/Bad: The rest

 

OoS:

Great: Micro Cuts, Bliss, Space Dementia, Darkshines, Citizen Erased, Hyper Music

Good: New Born, Megalomania, Plug In Baby

Ok: Screenager, Feeling Good

 

Absolution:

Great: SS, Endlessly, B&H, Blackout, RBS, FAWY

Good: Hysteria, TIRO, TOADA

Ok: SFA, AP, TSP

 

BH&R:

Great: MOTP, TaB, KoC, CoD, SMBH, Hoodoo

Good: Starlight, Soldier's Poem, Invincible

Ok: Exo-Politics, Assassin

 

TR:

Great: Redemption, Undisclosed Desires, Cross-Pollination

Good: Overture, I Belong To You, Unnatural Selection

Ok: MK Ultra, Resistance, Uprising,

Bad: USoE, Guiding Light

 

Drones:

Great: The Handler, Reapers, Dead Inside

Good: Defector

Ok: Psycho, The Globalist

Bad: Drones, Revolt, Aftermath, Mercy

 

Edit: Just realised that OoS, Abso and BH&R all had six great songs, three good songs and the rest were ok.

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Well I guess I started it so let me hop on the train:

 

Showbiz:

 

Great: Showbiz, MM, Sunburn

Good: Fillip, Cave, HTAILY, SS

Meh: The rest

 

OoS:

 

Great: Space Dementia, Micro Cuts, Bliss, Hyper Music, Darkshines, Citizen Erased (Futurism)

Good: PiB, New Born, Megalomania

Meh: Screenager, FG

 

Abso:

 

Great: AP, TIRO, SS, Hysteria, B&H, TSP, Endlessly (Fury)

Good: SFA, ToaDA, RBS

Meh: FAwY, Blackout,

 

BHAR:

 

Great: TaB, Knights, Assassin, MoTP, SMBH, Exo-Politics, CoD (Glorious)

Good: Hoodoo, Starlight, Invincible

Bad: SP

 

TR:

 

Great: Uprising, Unnatural Selection, MKU, IBtY, Exo 1-3

Good: UD, Resistance

Bad: GL

Meh: USE

 

Drones:

 

Great: The Handler, Dead Inside

Good: Reapers, Psycho, Defector, The Globalist, Mercy

Meh: Aftermath, Drones

Bad: Revolt

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  • 9 months later...

My last ranking before hearing ST was:

 

TR

OoS

Drones

BH&R

Abso

T2L

Showbiz

 

I’m quite certain I prefer ST to T2L...but idk how much farther it goes. I’ve just recently fallen back in love with Abso and BH&R, and haven’t listened to Drones in quite a while...so I’m just not sure how I feel anymore.

 

One thing’s certain though. ST is a relief. I may love Drones and enjoy T2L, but they both had some obvious faults that made me wonder if Muse were running out of steam. No such problem with ST.

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In terms of flow, Drones is my favorite, with The Resistance a close second, and Origin of Symmetry the next best. Drones has such great transitions between songs. The Handler all the way to the ending track, Drones, is all connected. I love it.

 

The Resistance has an amazing flow as well, Uprising --> Resistance is great as is USoE --> Guiding Light, and of course the full Exogenesis Symphony. I Belong to You works well before Exogenesis too.

 

Origin of Symmetry has New Born --> Bliss which isn't actually connected but it still works very well, as does Bliss --> Space Dementia --> Hyper Music. Ofc Hyper Music flows directly into Plug In Baby, and Citizen Erased flows directly into Micro Cuts, which are amazing parts. Feeling Good is terrible in between Dark Shines and Megalomania and works better after Micro Cuts IMO (which is what it's like in the original press release, and was like on Spotify until it was edited a couple weeks ago), although still not great, but that's automatically a better placing coz Feeling Good --> Screenager is great. As is Screenager --> Dark Shines --> Megalomania.

 

But if we're not looking at flow, then I agree that either Absolution or Black Holes and Revelations are the best because of the best individual songs.

 

Showbiz is just kinda in the middle, it's got amazing individual songs however not quite as great as Abso and BHaR, and it has a great flow, but not quite as great as OoS, TR, or Drones.

 

My personal favorite is The Resistance, love every song on it and the cohesion is impeccable. Exogenesis: Symphony is the most epic closer ever and I've never got bored of Uprising or any of the other songs. And shut up about Guiding Light it's perfect

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Black Holes Absolution, 2nd Law, Resistance equal first.

 

Impossible task, as with ranking the best REM or U2 albums. Top class art is beyond rank.(not in the smelly sense, with the exception of Tracy Emins bed).

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