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Precedent matters and precedent shows that The US shows will be/were terrible in comparison to everything else.

 

i blame obama trump.

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Yeah they will go back to playing Resistance, PIB, and Globalist and maybe throw Bliss in a couple of times. Gonna be the same old shit over here.

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If they play TaB tonight in Reading, I think there's a 50/50 chance it will stay.

 

If they play Showbiz tonight I think it shows that they aren't afraid of it - especially playing it 2 gigs in a row. I haven't seen the Leeds version but people are saying the vocals are even better than at SBE. I know it's probably hugely unrealistic to expect them to play it over here but we can dream :p

 

My optimism for a couple songs staying is based solely on the last 2 gigs, so it's probably dumb to even speculate and use this as a gauge considering they have a huge gap and all this will probably go out the window anyway by Sep 15 :rolleyes:

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They've gone to the effort of making some pretty extensive new visuals for TAB so I'd be surprised if it didn't stick around to at least some extent. Be a bit weird to do all that for 3 UK gigs and 2 in Japan.

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Didn't they do some new visuals for Butterflies and Hurricanes in 2010 and then only play it 5 times?

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Don't forget all the OoS visuals and stage set for two shows in 2011. I don't think they're afraid to waste money tbh.

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Didn't they do some new visuals for Butterflies and Hurricanes in 2010 and then only play it 5 times?

I thought those visuals had been curated for the 2008 shows?

 

But yeah, they do have a fair few "limited use" visuals or remixes of old visuals in the locker (thinking New Born, and that QI-inspired visual has had 3 different versions at least).

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Don't forget all the OoS visuals and stage set for two shows in 2011. I don't think they're afraid to waste money tbh.

 

Think that's different for a such a special one-off (technically 2 but whatevs) show though, not unlike them to go all out for something like that. Plus the Bliss and New Born visuals ended up surviving. Can't remember this Butterflies thing, all I remember that having visuals-wise was that aeroplane/tower beacon vid and I feel like that stuck around a fair bit?

 

Either way, this TAB setup is really extensive - all brand new and unique laser show, lights and screen visuals. Judging by Dom A's reactions while watching it, it seems like something they've put a lot of work into getting right. Doubt it'll be a staple obvs, but I would be surprised if it doesn't stick around for the US gigs.

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Either way, this TAB setup is really extensive - all brand new and unique laser show, lights and screen visuals. Judging by Dom A's reactions while watching it, it seems like something they've put a lot of work into getting right. Doubt it'll be a staple obvs, but I would be surprised if it doesn't stick around for the US gigs.

 

I hope so too! Beautiful visuals. :love:

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The TAB stuff is awesome. I think the main limiting factor in these visuals staying around is how accommodating these amphitheater stages are. For instance, I don't think the stage in Nashville was covering enough to have those overhead lasers where Atlanta would have been able to just fine. I don't think Red Rocks has the stage setup to do it either if my memory serves me correctly.

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I despise amphitheaters so much. They are the worst of everything. Too small to accommodate a complicated production, yet too big to be intimate. They are outside/uncovered, leading to weather issues and sweltering temps. They have either no pit or a small pit which limits barrier space. Oh and not to mention, because many are seasonal, the employees/security are often incompetent.

 

I hate, hate HATE them.

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Tool just got done playing amphitheaters with loads of lasers and production, so there's really no excuse. If they're not going to be playing TaB in America, it'll be because America.

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Tool just got done playing amphitheaters with loads of lasers and production, so there's really no excuse. If they're not going to be playing TaB in America, it'll be because America.

 

Yeah there's also that factor, too.

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Amphitheaters are the worst. I've actively avoided gigs there since my very first experience with one.

 

That said I'd have loved to go to Red Rocks once before I die... but maaaybe for a gig that I wasn't 100% certain was going to disappoint me.

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just put a wrap on Take A Bow. earlier US gigs seemed to have gotten the (relative) short end of the stick...even though just a couple songs have been swapped so far.

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u prefer tonight over oakland in 2015? lol.

 

If they played Butterflies and left I'd still enjoy it more than Oakland.

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Remember when people were using The Globalist as a defense as to why we were getting 17 songs a night instead of the 19 we got from T2L's tour? Well, no Globalist tonight. 15 songs at a full priced headlining amphitheater gig.

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Remember when people were using The Globalist as a defense as to why we were getting 17 songs a night instead of the 19 we got from T2L's tour? Well, no Globalist tonight. 15 songs at a full priced headlining amphitheater gig.

 

There's 19 songs?

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they've got all the hits there, drop NKOK and add a couple of oldies. It's been said so many times, but that would leave both hardcores and casuals going away happy

 

Rock Werchter 2015 for instance

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