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Page 346 of this thread about to give me an aneurysm MK Ultra, Defector, and Exo Politics are leaps and bounds above Blockades, even Liquid State is more original

 

Defector lol no. The solo is one of Matt's best ever but that's about it.

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I like Blockades, I just really wish they'd at least added one extra layer in that final chorus. As is, feels a bit anticlimactic after the highlight of a solo.

 

I'm not sure if I'd put it ahead of MK Ultra or not. I think Blockades benefits from much better production. And I kind of hate listening to studio MK Ultra just because of all the loud chirping sounds at the end. But overall it might be better than Blockades.

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The solo in Blockades is so underwhelming though :erm:. It starts nowhere and ends nowhere. It also sounds really low or muffled in the mix. It's almost like it's not the main focus of that sections of the song.

 

MK Ultra is pretty much perfect so far as I'm concerned. Absolute brute live too.

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The solo in Blockades is so underwhelming though :erm:. It starts nowhere and ends nowhere. It also sounds really low or muffled in the mix. It's almost like it's not the main focus of that sections of the song.

 

MK Ultra is pretty much perfect so far as I'm concerned. Absolute brute live too.

I haven't noticed it being low or muffled in the mix, sounds fine to me. I also really enjoy how it starts after that drum fill.

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I was wondering when the initial enthusiasm for Blockades would begin recede a little. ;) I like it quite a bit but I always like that one heavy, filler track. Almost as much as I always like the much maligned power pop song which bring us to GUAF, a song that I don't think I feel comfortable sharing my opinion on at this very moment.

 

But let me just throw this out there: it's possible that my life is in such a valley that maybe, JUST MAYBE hearing someone tell me to "get up and fight" is exactly what I needed. :$

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Nothing to be ashamed of using music to help you get through rough times. That's the best part about music in my opinion. :)

 

Break it to Me has grown SO much on me so quickly, it's truly great.

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But let me just throw this out there: it's possible that my life is in such a valley that maybe, JUST MAYBE hearing someone tell me to "get up and fight" is exactly what I needed. :$

 

The 2nd Law was released right around the time one of my sons was born and spent some time in the hospital because he decided to arrive a bit too early. I think that's why I've always had a soft spot for Follow Me.

 

(Now that he's 6 and has a 4 year old brother, Panic Station, Madness, Animals, Save Me and Survival seem like more fitting titles to describe the situation.)

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Still really like Blockades but while it was probably my favourite on initial listens, Propaganda and Algorithm have probably overtaken it.

 

The contrast of frantic verse, soft pre-chorus and then exploding chorus is enjoyable and while I agree that the solo isn't Matt's best, it's needed in the song.

 

( Also, Defector's solo is okay but imo it's not as good as a lot of people say it is and I'll stand by that :phu: )

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There are not many faults on this album but with the band stripping away the extra fluff and prog-rock tendancies to make tight tracks, songs like Pressure, TC and Blockades (still love it) are possibly worse off.

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I do feel even at 42 minutes, it could do with a harder, harsher cut. Thought Contagion really only needed to be two minutes, Pressure three mins max.

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Hi fellas,

I got The Deluxe CD edition Of The Album, After listening 5-6 Times i can say that Simulation Theory is definitely better than The Drones , a little bit better than The 2nd Law , i think it is as GOOD as The Resistance. 7,5 /10 .

I hope it will grow on me , i got The CD from mail today .

Great form from The boys ...

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I do feel even at 42 minutes, it could do with a harder, harsher cut. Thought Contagion really only needed to be two minutes, Pressure three mins max.

 

Thought Contagion needed to be cut from the album entirely

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Pressure should donate 30 seconds to Propaganda. I usually advocate for shorter pop songs/singles and the last chorus of Pressure is entirely necessary, but Propaganda feels a tad too short.

 

Not here for TC bashing. :phu:

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TC is one of the most fun and catchy songs they’ve released over the last 4 albums.

 

I said it

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I've already cut Something Human, GUAF and Dig Down from the album. Can't remember who said it earlier but it's a shame that only my favourite songs had alternative reality versions. I guess you could count Dig Down as more AV than simply acoustic version, but it doesn't really fit the album.

 

If Dig Down, SH or GUAF had alternative reality versions I would at least have a chance of replacing the album version.

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This is a strange album. I certainly like it more than I thought I would. It never dips as low as Drones (the back half of which is damn near unlistenable), but it never made me as happy as The Handler did either. I quite like the 80's pastiche sounds, but then again the best songs sound better in their stripped-down alternate versions. Eh. The Void is really good. Get Up and Fight is ass.

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forgot how critical you all are, completely different to reddit

as I said, I predict you to rank this album below Drones/T2L eventually. Personally, though, I think Thought Contagion works (yes it's a bit too long) but it's actually a BANGER live and a nicely melted together song. On the other hand, SH could've done with ever being dropped or re-worked completely, instead of having Rich Costey and the band smother it with some vocoder and WUB effects. Dig Down is alright in my opinion, the AR is particularly great. GUAF is just whatever, hearing what it's about makes me hate it less, I truly feel bad for Matt after hearing the news - I can't bring myself to hate that song!

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forgot how critical you all are, completely different to reddit

as I said, I predict you to rank this album below Drones/T2L eventually. Personally, though, I think Thought Contagion works (yes it's a bit too long) but it's actually a BANGER live and a nicely melted together song. On the other hand, SH could've done with ever being dropped or re-worked completely, instead of having Rich Costey and the band smother it with some vocoder and WUB effects. Dig Down is alright in my opinion, the AR is particularly great. GUAF is just whatever, hearing what it's about makes me hate it less, I truly feel bad for Matt after hearing the news - I can't bring myself to hate that song!

Rob?

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TC is one of the most fun and catchy songs they’ve released over the last 4 albums.

 

I said it

 

Ouch.

 

forgot how critical you all are, completely different to reddit

as I said, I predict you to rank this album below Drones/T2L eventually. Personally, though, I think Thought Contagion works (yes it's a bit too long) but it's actually a BANGER live and a nicely melted together song. On the other hand SH could've done with ever being dropped or re-worked completely, instead of having Rich Costey and the band smother it with some vocoder and WUB effects. GUAF is just whatever, hearing what it's about makes me hate it less, I truly feel bad for Matt after hearing the news - I can't bring myself to hate that song!

 

Disagree about ranking ST below those two, the peaks in there are so effing high that balance the lows out almost perfectly.

Agree about TC being a bit too long (and repetitive), disagree completely about SH,

agree about GUAF.

 

Actually... there's something I regret about this album, but I swear it's the only problem beside GUAF being "whatever".

 

I wish Muse would have never carried through with releasing so many songs with months and months in advance before the official release. I love the last three (SH, Pressure, TDS) and I came around DD, but I listened to them so much in anticipation that the novelty was already worn off them. I think this helped us appreciating the remaining tracks more because it's like they prepared us for what was coming ahead in terms of style, but at the expense of sacrificing the surprise factor, which could have enhanced my enjoyment of ST even more than I actually feel at the moment.

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Something I’ve picked up on with Pressure - they should’ve cut Matt’s guitar in the verses and left that part to be mostly dominated by the brass (maybe including the extra parts from the UCLA version). As it is, the thin tone clashes awkwardly with the lower, punchier tones of the other instruments and it’s slightly worse live for it as well (so far at least).

 

That would ascend it to nigh perfect for me.

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Something I¡¯ve picked up on with Pressure - they should¡¯ve cut Matt¡¯s guitar in the verses and left that part to be mostly dominated by the brass (maybe including the extra parts from the UCLA version). As it is, the thin tone clashes awkwardly with the lower, punchier tones of the other instruments and it¡¯s slightly worse live for it as well (so far at least).

 

That would ascend it to nigh perfect for me.

 

Really? I don't think it clashes at all with brass, quite the contrary: the lower brass form a sort of "platform" sustaining and counterpointing harmonically the guitar line, while the guitar adds further grit to the brass by playing the main riff at the same time. In short words, it's like they complete each other.

Also, I feel transposing the verse of the AV (which is ridicolously funny, btw) into the official one would be too jarring in the context of the whole song: it would be like suddenly shifting from a bandistic, jazzy-ish feel to a full out rocking track in pre-chorus and chorus.

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